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9/12/2014 4:00:52 PM EDT
Other than an SVT-40, MAS, and a few FAL's, what are the other military semi-autos that have been used
9/12/2014 4:05:45 PM EDT
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SVT-38
G-41
G-43
FN-49
Various types of SKSs
Hakim
AG-42 Ljungman
Rasheed
M1 Garand
M1 Carbine
M1941 Johnson

There area few other less common military surplus semiautos as well, but those listed above are the more common ones that you're most likely to run across on the military surplus rifle market.  Other semiauto military surplus rifles, such as the Mexican Mondragon M1908, French RSC M1917, German Volkssturmgewehr, Czech ZH-29, Soviet AVS-36, or the Japanese Type 4/Type 5, are uncommon and generally relegated to high-end collections or museums.

And if you're including more modern rifles like the semiauto FALs, which don't fit the typical definition of "military surplus" but which are military semiauto rifles, then there's also a whole slew of modern military semiauto rifles (primarily precision rifles) like the SR-25/M110, Dragunov SVD, Barrett M107, M39 EMR, and many more.

9/12/2014 9:10:21 PM EDT
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some other relatively common ones are

BM59
VZ-52
destroyer carbine (para-military)
9/12/2014 9:43:41 PM EDT
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some other relatively common ones are

BM59
VZ-52
destroyer carbine (para-military)
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BM59s are select fire (automatic) rifles.  And Destroyer Carbines are bolt-action.  But good catch on the Vz. 52, which I overlooked.
9/13/2014 9:47:57 AM EDT
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BM59s are select fire (automatic) rifles.  And Destroyer Carbines are bolt-action.  But good catch on the Vz. 52, which I overlooked.
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some other relatively common ones are

BM59
VZ-52
destroyer carbine (para-military)


BM59s are select fire (automatic) rifles.  And Destroyer Carbines are bolt-action.  But good catch on the Vz. 52, which I overlooked.


My bad.  Always assumed the real BM59 was semi.  I guess you could go BM62 but then it would be civilian not military.  Destroyer was a blond moment I blame on it having a detachable mag
9/13/2014 9:58:09 AM EDT
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Mondragón Modelo 1908 - another high-end collector rifle.
9/13/2014 11:02:10 AM EDT
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Mondragón Modelo 1908 - another high-end collector rifle.


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Other semiauto military surplus rifles, such as the Mexican Mondragon M1908...



9/13/2014 12:03:38 PM EDT
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Everyone forgets this guy! The MAS-49/56 sure, but don't forget the earlier 49 and 44s.

9/13/2014 1:12:47 PM EDT
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The OP already mentioned the MAS family.  He was looking for semiauto rifles other than the SVT-40, MAS family, and the various semiauto FALs.
9/13/2014 4:34:35 PM EDT
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The OP already mentioned the MAS family.  He was looking for semiauto rifles other than the SVT-40, MAS family, and the various semiauto FALs.
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Everyone forgets this guy! The MAS-49/56 sure, but don't forget the earlier 49 and 44s.


The OP already mentioned the MAS family.  He was looking for semiauto rifles other than the SVT-40, MAS family, and the various semiauto FALs.


I'm aware. However, most people forget that the MAS-44 and full-length 49 are available as well.
9/13/2014 4:46:51 PM EDT
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Don't forget about all the semi auto Military handguns, 1911, 1911A1, Hi Standard, Brownings, Lugers, P38s, Nambus, ect. The list is quite long and you can collect to your hearts content.
9/13/2014 10:46:12 PM EDT
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Everyone forgets our Gallic friends.  
RSC Mle 1917
The froggies began super-duper-double-secret testing of semi automatic rifle systems at the end of the nineteenth century. ADD tangent:  I'm amazed they've gone from the cutting edge of small arms development to now being forced to purchase foreign systems to replace the FAMAS.
9/14/2014 3:10:05 AM EDT
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I thaught all FALs were select fire?
My under standing is that some AKs were only semi auto. I think those Romanian "G" kits came off semi auto "national guard" training guns.
9/14/2014 8:47:58 AM EDT
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Not everyone.    I mentioned it in the second post.

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I thaught all FALs were select fire?


No, most of the inch-pattern FALs (including the L1A1 and C1A1) used by Britain and the British Commonwealth countries were semiauto only.  In addition, some of the metric FALs used by Israel were semiauto only.

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My under standing is that some AKs were only semi auto. I think those Romanian "G" kits came off semi auto "national guard" training guns.


The Romanian MD-63s used by the Patriotic Guard were standard AKMs whose auto sears had been removed.  So while they were only capable of semiauto fire, they are still legally "machine guns" by the US definition, and could be put back into full auto capable condition fairly simply.
9/14/2014 11:25:15 AM EDT
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Not everyone.    I mentioned it in the second post.



No, most of the inch-pattern FALs (including the L1A1 and C1A1) used by Britain and the British Commonwealth countries were semiauto only.  In addition, some of the metric FALs used by Israel were semiauto only.



The Romanian MD-63s used by the Patriotic Guard were standard AKMs whose auto sears had been removed.  So while they were only capable of semiauto fire, they are still legally "machine guns" by the US definition, and could be put back into full auto capable condition fairly simply.
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Everyone forgets our Gallic friends.  RSC Mle 1917


Not everyone.    I mentioned it in the second post.

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I thaught all FALs were select fire?


No, most of the inch-pattern FALs (including the L1A1 and C1A1) used by Britain and the British Commonwealth countries were semiauto only.  In addition, some of the metric FALs used by Israel were semiauto only.

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My under standing is that some AKs were only semi auto. I think those Romanian "G" kits came off semi auto "national guard" training guns.


The Romanian MD-63s used by the Patriotic Guard were standard AKMs whose auto sears had been removed.  So while they were only capable of semiauto fire, they are still legally "machine guns" by the US definition, and could be put back into full auto capable condition fairly simply.


The Commonwealth FAL's / L1A1's you reference above are considered MG's in the US as well......they only require swapping out the selector to produce automatic fire........
9/14/2014 4:55:40 PM EDT
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Everyone forgets our Gallic friends.  <a href="http://s15.photobucket.com/user/SmegHead2/media/RSC%20Mle1917.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a364/SmegHead2/RSC%20Mle1917.jpg</a>
RSC Mle 1917
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oooh, I kinda want one of these now.

Thanks for adding something new to my list.
9/14/2014 7:40:08 PM EDT
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Get your wallet ready!  Rifle aside, an original clip will be upwards of $250.  Too bad it can't use a Berthier clip.  That would make too much sense.... Good choice to add to your armory!
9/15/2014 11:20:18 AM EDT
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Get your wallet ready!  Rifle aside, an original clip will be upwards of $250.  Too bad it can't use a Berthier clip.  That would make too much sense.... Good choice to add to your armory!
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Seriously, the rare rifles Rogue was listing off go up for auction for prices like $30,000 when they are available at all.
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