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2/21/2013 3:43:07 PM EDT
Going to take my Mosin out shooting, after receiving and cleaning it almost a year ago. All numbers match, and headspace check out fine. Bore is shiny and bright, strong rifling. It is not counter bored, and crown is in good condition.  Anything else to worry about ? , or fire away ?
2/21/2013 3:48:48 PM EDT
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hold it tight
2/21/2013 3:52:24 PM EDT
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hold it tight


This.
2/21/2013 3:52:27 PM EDT
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I never shot one, does it kick like a mule?
2/21/2013 3:56:20 PM EDT
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I never shot one, does it kick like a mule?


a mosin is a cruel mistress.... but my god they are so fun to shoot.  I'll put 60-100 rounds through mine in a range day,  it isnt until the next day that I realize that may have been a mistake haha.

trust me. you'll love it.  and they are addicting, it is hard to own just one


oh, you may want to invest in a couple of stripper clips, it does speed up reloading time.  they rarely cost more than $4 or 5 in EE or on Ebay.  I own 2 of them and that is plenty for 1 gun, it just saves your thumb from getting rubbed raw from reloading a ton of rounds one by one into the magazine.
2/21/2013 4:00:13 PM EDT
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I never shot one, does it kick like a mule?


Lets just say that you will probably give yourself a black eye if you get down on the sights good AND wrap your thumb around the stock.

Keep your thumb on the same side as your palm or straight up the center.

Start close also to figure out where the sights are starting out.  Many of these were set up to zero with the bayonet  on the end.  Without it, you could be WAY left or HIGH.
2/21/2013 4:13:38 PM EDT
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They are not really that bad if you know how to hold it.   I can shoot 100+ rounds and not bruise up.  But if I don't hold it right, or shoulder it like my AR-15, it is going to bruise and hurt.

Best advice, until you find where your natural "pocket" is, put a towel folded on your shoulder
2/21/2013 4:28:01 PM EDT
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They are not really that bad if you know how to hold it.   I can shoot 100+ rounds and not bruise up.  But if I don't hold it right, or shoulder it like my AR-15, it is going to bruise and hurt.

Best advice, until you find where your natural "pocket" is, put a towel folded on your shoulder


This was my experience as well.  First Mosin I shot was a 91/59 carbine.  I did not have the best form and it hurt after only a handful of rounds.  Since then I have gotten much better at putting the butt in the pocket, getting good cheek weld, and holding on nice and tight.  I shoot carbines all the time now and have no issues at all.  I have an M39 and a 91/30, both shoot softer than the carbines, but still have a lot more kick than an AR-15, if that's what you're used to.

-Jay
2/21/2013 5:12:15 PM EDT
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Kicks bad ? Like worse than a shotgun kick ? I was going to get a robber butt stock insert for it, especially if I go shooting a lot with it.
2/21/2013 5:20:12 PM EDT
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91/30s don't kick that bad. Geez. Hold it firmly into your shoulder and pull back from the wrist of the stock with your trigger hand to keep it firmly planted. It's like shooting a 12 ga.  Now, the carbines, especially with heavier bullets....those will get you tenderized.
2/21/2013 6:02:40 PM EDT
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Make sure the chamber is cleaned out good so you won't have to worry about the infamous sticky bolt.
2/21/2013 7:27:15 PM EDT
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No, they don't kick bad at all. Its the perfect amount in my opinion.
2/21/2013 8:21:43 PM EDT
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Kicks bad ? Like worse than a shotgun kick ? I was going to get a robber butt stock insert for it, especially if I go shooting a lot with it.


They are about the same as a 2 3/4in birshot 12 gauge pump, but that metal butt plate can put you in your place if you mess-up your form even once. With a shotgun pad on it you get pushed around a little bit but your shoulder will not be black and blue the next day.
2/21/2013 9:04:00 PM EDT
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A 91/30 is not that bad if you were shooting an M44 I might say it was going to hurt.
2/22/2013 2:05:44 AM EDT
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I don't find the recoil to be unpleasant. It is sharper than shotgun recoil, but not any harder. The carbines are a little nastier, particularly the M38, 91/38,  91/59, the ones without the added weight of the bayonet. M44's actually weigh more than a 91/30, so that helps mitigate some of the recoil.

Either way, they aren't any worse than most other 30 caliber milsurp bolt guns. Some people are just wimps.
2/22/2013 4:41:28 AM EDT
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Kicks bad ? Like worse than a shotgun kick ? I was going to get a robber butt stock insert for it, especially if I go shooting a lot with it.


Stop being a pussy and shoot the damn gun.  

recoil is your friend.
2/22/2013 5:25:10 AM EDT
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Make sure the chamber is cleaned out good so you won't have to worry about the infamous sticky bolt.


THIS!!! I didn't clean my carbine well enough the first time and upon firing that damn bolt would stick pretty good. Had to beat the bolt up and then back with the palm of my hand to get the spent case out.  My hand hurt WAY more than my shoulder did. I didn't really notice it kicking all that hard really but can definately see how it could if you didn't have it tight. I was shooting 147gr Tula so maybe that was why? I picked up some 150gr and 182gr Privi to see if my rifle has a preference between the light and heavy stuff before I start reloading so maybe the 182gr will leave me used and bruised
2/22/2013 6:17:45 AM EDT
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I have shot a friends old bubba'ed up Enfield and it kick harder than all of my mosins to me.  His single shot 20 ga also kicked harder.
2/22/2013 6:31:08 AM EDT
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If it has not been fired recently, be sure to check head spacing and firing pin protrusion.  

2/22/2013 7:31:18 AM EDT
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I love my M44 which I picked up as my first rifle when I turned 18. I love it for the fact that it is a fire breathing dragon and makes heads turn at the range where I go.

For the recoil, its tolerable but I prefere shooting the 182grn yellow tip. The next day you will certanly feel it but its not that bad IMO. Minor bruising if any (depending on how many rounds you put down range). Personally I shoot around 70-150 rounds a range trip through it. The next day when I wake up, I always says "Its well worth it."
2/22/2013 8:49:48 AM EDT
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I don't find the recoil to be unpleasant. It is sharper than shotgun recoil, but not any harder. The carbines are a little nastier, particularly the M38, 91/38,  91/59, the ones without the added weight of the bayonet. M44's actually weigh more than a 91/30, so that helps mitigate some of the recoil.

Either way, they aren't any worse than most other 30 caliber milsurp bolt guns. Some people are just wimps.


Yep. There's FAR worse out there.

The 91/30 is a pussycat. The carbines recoil enough to let you know they mean business.
2/22/2013 10:46:02 AM EDT
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I don't find the recoil to be unpleasant. It is sharper than shotgun recoil, but not any harder. The carbines are a little nastier, particularly the M38, 91/38,  91/59, the ones without the added weight of the bayonet. M44's actually weigh more than a 91/30, so that helps mitigate some of the recoil.

Either way, they aren't any worse than most other 30 caliber milsurp bolt guns. Some people are just wimps.


Yep. There's FAR worse out there.

The 91/30 is a pussycat. The carbines recoil enough to let you know they mean business.


Steyr M95 carbine will rape you in the mouth, then the ass, then the mouth again.

2/22/2013 11:03:29 AM EDT
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I don't find the recoil to be unpleasant. It is sharper than shotgun recoil, but not any harder. The carbines are a little nastier, particularly the M38, 91/38,  91/59, the ones without the added weight of the bayonet. M44's actually weigh more than a 91/30, so that helps mitigate some of the recoil.

Either way, they aren't any worse than most other 30 caliber milsurp bolt guns. Some people are just wimps.


Yep. There's FAR worse out there.

The 91/30 is a pussycat. The carbines recoil enough to let you know they mean business.


Steyr M95 carbine will rape you in the mouth, then the ass, then the mouth again.



And they won't even give you the reach around, or make breakfast.

2/22/2013 11:47:49 AM EDT
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I don't find the recoil to be unpleasant. It is sharper than shotgun recoil, but not any harder. The carbines are a little nastier, particularly the M38, 91/38,  91/59, the ones without the added weight of the bayonet. M44's actually weigh more than a 91/30, so that helps mitigate some of the recoil.

Either way, they aren't any worse than most other 30 caliber milsurp bolt guns. Some people are just wimps.


Yep. There's FAR worse out there.

The 91/30 is a pussycat. The carbines recoil enough to let you know they mean business.


Steyr M95 carbine will rape you in the mouth, then the ass, then the mouth again.



And they won't even give you the reach around, or make breakfast.



this series of posts made my day, thank you!  
2/22/2013 12:46:20 PM EDT
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I don't think Mosins kick as much as a 12ga shotgun.

They're not bad, just more than other rifles. The thing with them is that they have a small, metal buttplate with little margin for error should you shoulder it wrong.
2/22/2013 12:49:49 PM EDT
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I don't find the recoil to be unpleasant. It is sharper than shotgun recoil, but not any harder. The carbines are a little nastier, particularly the M38, 91/38,  91/59, the ones without the added weight of the bayonet. M44's actually weigh more than a 91/30, so that helps mitigate some of the recoil.

Either way, they aren't any worse than most other 30 caliber milsurp bolt guns. Some people are just wimps.


Yep. There's FAR worse out there.

The 91/30 is a pussycat. The carbines recoil enough to let you know they mean business.


Steyr M95 carbine will rape you in the mouth, then the ass, then the mouth again.



This I can attest to, I shot my buddies M95 side my side with my 91/30 and my M44 and that M95 will fuck you up.  I really thought I dislocated my shoulder that day.
2/22/2013 12:51:03 PM EDT
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I don't think Mosins kick as much as a 12ga shotgun.

They're not bad, just more than other rifles. The thing with them is that they have a small, metal buttplate with little margin for error should you shoulder it wrong.


And that is the real problem most shotguns with have some nice soft rubber to absob some of the recoil while the Mosins got nothing.
2/22/2013 2:14:57 PM EDT
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I don't think Mosins kick as much as a 12ga shotgun.

They're not bad, just more than other rifles. The thing with them is that they have a small, metal buttplate with little margin for error should you shoulder it wrong.


And that is the real problem most shotguns with have some nice soft rubber to absob some of the recoil while the Mosins got nothing.


Yeah, that was my perception too.... I was also told a while ago, that if you don't shoot the Mosin the way it is, before you put a pad on it..... you are not accepted in the Mosin club.... LOL
2/22/2013 2:48:46 PM EDT
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I don't think Mosins kick as much as a 12ga shotgun.

They're not bad, just more than other rifles. The thing with them is that they have a small, metal buttplate with little margin for error should you shoulder it wrong.


And that is the real problem most shotguns with have some nice soft rubber to absob some of the recoil while the Mosins got nothing.


Yeah, that was my perception too.... I was also told a while ago, that if you don't shoot the Mosin the way it is, before you put a pad on it..... you are not accepted in the Mosin club.... LOL


Well it's just like outting some kind of monte carlo stock and a scope on a Mosin.  A Mosin is a bruiser of a battle rifle and was never meant to be a soft shooting precision rifle.  If you want a soft recoiling rifle that will shoot nice tight groups a Mosin is not for you but if you want a fun blaster that hurts like hell when you shoot it too much but is as fun as it is painfull plus it is a small piece of history then you NEED a Mosin.
2/22/2013 3:15:26 PM EDT
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The only thing I plan to do it is put a scope on it. Brass Stacker makes a mount that fits right over the rear sight, without removing anything, and keeping everything original.
2/22/2013 7:07:18 PM EDT
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I tried talking my friend into taking his M44 to an appleseed shoot. He wasn't taking the bait though.

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2/22/2013 7:17:39 PM EDT
[#31]
Prior to shooting it, I would be sure the chamber is really clean or you have sticky bolt syndrome.

A good way to clean it.
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