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1/5/2012 2:33:45 PM EDT
With all the Mosin owners here, we should have a Mosin Nagant question thread that's tacked.

Anyway, to my question. I took my M44 out today. It was shooting low all day. Started the day with the rear site at 1. Target was 100 yards. It was hitting in the dirt below the target. Moved rear site to 2, now hitting the very lower edge of the target. Moved sight to 3 hitting just above the edge of target. Moved sight to 4, hitting about 3 inches low. Moved sight to 5, hitting about an inch low! All shots about centerline, some a little left or a little right not by more then 1/2 inch. I figured that was shooter error. But why is it hitting low? Everything I've read, says Mosin's shot high. Bayonet was closed. Cleaning rod was out for a few shot's, don't think this had any effect. Any thoughts?

Edit: I was shooting Russin ammo, I think I had better accuracy with the Bulgarian stuff.
1/5/2012 2:38:31 PM EDT
[#1]
open the bayonet....

Supposedly this affects accuracy on these rifles.
1/5/2012 2:49:25 PM EDT
[#2]



Quoted:


open the bayonet....



Yup.



 
1/5/2012 3:14:38 PM EDT
[#3]
My M44,1944 Tula, shoots about 2 inches left with bayonet closed.  With bayonet open, a foot to the right (from the left group).  No difference with surplus, Brown Bear, or S&B.
1/5/2012 3:41:39 PM EDT
[#4]
Did it shoot differently with different ammo? Maybe it just doesn't like the Russian stuff. How did it group?
1/5/2012 4:41:35 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Did it shoot differently with different ammo? Maybe it just doesn't like the Russian stuff. How did it group?


The last 5 shots grouped great. Just 3 inches low, and a staggered (nothing more then 1/2) left, right of centerline. I didn't have anymore of the Bulgarian stuff. But I didn't think the bayonet played such huge havoc with the accuracy. I thought this was extreme, seeing as the rear sight was on 5 and the target was only 100 yards.

Edit: I tried to take a pic, but my phone was dying and it wouldn't let me.
1/5/2012 5:29:15 PM EDT
[#6]
Try it extended and see what happens.  If it is consistently low, you can slowly file down the front sight pin to zero.
1/5/2012 6:53:40 PM EDT
[#7]
These rifles have been glued back together 20 times from a pile of frankenstein parts. Depending on who installed the front site at the arsenal and how much vodka they slammed back that morning makes all the difference.

I've had to re-adjust every sight on every Mosin I've owned, even the M39's which shoot about 2 feet high usually.

1/6/2012 9:10:07 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
These rifles have been glued back together 20 times from a pile of frankenstein parts. Depending on who installed the front site at the arsenal and how much vodka they slammed back that morning makes all the difference.

I've had to re-adjust every sight on every Mosin I've owned, even the M39's which shoot about 2 feet high usually.



Good point!
1/7/2012 5:12:28 PM EDT
[#9]
Yeah, the rifles were sighted in with the bayonets attached. They affect the barrel harmonics or something and can cause a shift in POI when attached or not.
1/9/2012 1:39:02 PM EDT
[#10]
First try some different ammo all mosins are picky due to the russians tolerances and some times it takes a bit to match the ammo to the gun. I had a sportster that ways shooting 15in groups at 100 yards with romanian surplus, used some hand loads with .312 bullets to match the bore and now get it gets under 3moa.You can try it with the bayonet extended but it's more likely your sights are off seeing as the point of impact M44s tends to be high and to the right while not using the bayonet.
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