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1/15/2010 12:26:45 PM EDT
Hey everyone.  Just bought this off a coworker for $50.  From what I've seen they usually sell for $100 or a little more so I feel I did fairly well.  This is my first mosin.  I already like it a lot and cant wait to shoot it.  I plan on keeping it at my cabbin up north as my SHTF back up survival rifle.  in case I cant get to my guns or something before I bug out.
So what do you guys think?
Questions? Comments? Concerns?





1/15/2010 12:31:38 PM EDT
[#1]
mosin? 91 30?

1/15/2010 12:35:04 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
mosin? 91 30?


I'm hoping some people here can tell me a little more about it.  Not my area of expertise
1/15/2010 12:36:57 PM EDT
[#3]
Looks like it may be a non-refurb which are usually worth more.  Can we get a shot of the top of the receiver (behind the rear sight)?
1/15/2010 12:37:03 PM EDT
[#4]
It is an M44. It has the integral folding bayonet.  Nice looking Mosin for the money.
1/15/2010 12:38:35 PM EDT
[#5]
Looks like you did good, M 44's  are really loud and with the right ammo  will get a pretty impressive fireball out the end of the muzzle when firing.

ETA: they usually shoot more accurate with the bayonet extended........ or at least mine does
1/15/2010 12:39:56 PM EDT
[#6]
This is the best I have right now with my shitty camera. When I get home I'll use my girlfriends camera and try to get some better pics.
1/15/2010 12:42:47 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Looks like you did good, M 44's  are really loud and with the right ammo  will get a pretty impressive fireball out the end of the muzzle when firing.


Thats what I've heard. I'm looking forward to it  
Is there a good butt pad I can get for it.  That metal and wood doesnt look like the softest hitting thing in the world.  Or should I just man up
1/15/2010 12:44:21 PM EDT
[#8]
Get a pic of the end of the barrel, and we can see if it's counter-bored.  Doesn't matter either way, most are.  They are very loud, ask my neighbors from New Years eve  Actually you did very well, these have been fetching upwards of $140-150 now, because they are getting harder to find.
1/15/2010 12:48:18 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Get a pic of the end of the barrel, and we can see if it's counter-bored.  Doesn't matter either way, most are.  They are very loud, ask my neighbors from New Years eve  Actually you did very well, these have been fetching upwards of $140-150 now, because they are getting harder to find.


Nice. I was hoping I did well.  I'll have to look at the barrel.  I did notice the rifling.  Looks like it has never been shot.  Maybe this is due to counter boring?
1/15/2010 12:55:52 PM EDT
[#10]
Cool.  Post war, non-refurb (looks like original finish) Ishevsk M44.  Those are definetly getting harder to find.  Is it import marked, matching numbers?  If not, even better...
1/15/2010 1:57:53 PM EDT
[#11]

what you have there is an M44

recoil pad ?

man up, Sally.


  that is a HELL of a score... non-refurbed...  hell i paid 170 for a refurbed one the other week, but the barrel looks brand new inside...
1/15/2010 2:14:46 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Get a pic of the end of the barrel, and we can see if it's counter-bored.  Doesn't matter either way, most are.  They are very loud, ask my neighbors from New Years eve  Actually you did very well, these have been fetching upwards of $140-150 now, because they are getting harder to find.


I can buy these for $119 at most of the gun shops in town. But yeah, $50 is a score.
1/15/2010 3:08:28 PM EDT
[#13]
Take a better picture of the rear of that bolt.  All the ones I have, the end of the firing pin is flush with the rear of the cocking peice.   If you can see threads there in the cocking peice, the pin may not be screwed in far enough.  You'll have some primer peircing going on.   Good find for $50 smakers otherwise.
1/15/2010 3:09:45 PM EDT
[#14]
I don't believe thats a Russian.

Looks like a Romanian M44 Mosin to me. The date appears to be 1954 and the blueing on the receiver looks Romanian too.

eta, the Romanian (tree in a triangle) symbol looks very similar to the Izhevsk marking (arrow in a triangle). Look at the wreath at the top and it should RPR in the wreath (meaning Romanian Peoples Republic)
1/15/2010 3:18:26 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Take a better picture of the rear of that bolt.  All the ones I have, the end of the firing pin is flush with the rear of the cocking peice.   If you can see threads there in the cocking peice, the pin may not be screwed in far enough.  You'll have some primer peircing going on.   Good find for $50 smakers otherwise.


+1 about the firing pin. looks like its in too far
1/15/2010 3:19:16 PM EDT
[#16]
Alright, so I'm home and had a better chance to look at it. Receiver part says 1954, BH39X,
BH39X, M1944 CAI. GEOGRIA.VT.ROMANIA
Only numbers I can see that dont match up are on the Bolt.
Rifling looks good but I dont know how to tell if its been counter bored.
But I'm putting it away know., I've been to thebar and I dont touch firearms after I been drinking, even if I dont have any ammo for it in the house.
The sctock is in pretty rough shape, I was planning on sanding it and refinishing it.  But fro m what I have heard people say guess I shouldnt. Even though I dont plan on reselling it better safe than sorry.
1/15/2010 3:19:29 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
I don't believe thats a Russian.

Looks like a Romanian M44 Mosin to me. The date appears to be 1954 and the blueing on the receiver looks Romanian too.

eta, the Romanian (tree in a triangle) symbol looks very similar to the Izhevsk marking (arrow in a triangle). Look at the wreath at the top and it should RPR in the wreath (meaning Romanian Peoples Republic)


i wondered about that too... but  the receiver / barrel shank pics are too blurry, it doesnt look too far off from my M44 markings, just that my M44s are refurbed and have a butt load of extra stamps on them
1/15/2010 3:22:11 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
I don't believe thats a Russian.

Looks like a Romanian M44 Mosin to me. The date appears to be 1954 and the blueing on the receiver looks Romanian too.

eta, the Romanian (tree in a triangle) symbol looks very similar to the Izhevsk marking (arrow in a triangle). Look at the wreath at the top and it should RPR in the wreath (meaning Romanian Peoples Republic)


Youy my friend are good.  That was quite a crappy picture
1/15/2010 3:28:11 PM EDT
[#19]
After further looking at the rear of the bolt I see MANY threads.  Meaning my firing pis is too far forward?  I will move it back until its flush with the back of the bolt, is that correct? That sounds like it could be a painful mishap. Thanks Guys.  I know the person I bought if from never fired it.
1/15/2010 3:58:16 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
I don't believe thats a Russian.

Looks like a Romanian M44 Mosin to me. The date appears to be 1954 and the blueing on the receiver looks Romanian too.

eta, the Romanian (tree in a triangle) symbol looks very similar to the Izhevsk marking (arrow in a triangle). Look at the wreath at the top and it should RPR in the wreath (meaning Romanian Peoples Republic)


I am certain you are right.  Great purchase.

Warning, treat all 7.62x54R as corrosive.  Always, always, always clean up after shooting.
1/15/2010 5:04:08 PM EDT
[#21]
If you are seeing rifling at the end of the barrel, it has not been counter-bored.  A counter-bored rifle looks like someone has bored out the last inch of the barrel.  Russians did this to fix muzzle wear due to steel cleaning rods, very common practice
1/15/2010 5:24:35 PM EDT
[#22]
Good score! M44's tend to shoot left with the bayo folded. Right down the middle with it extended.
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1/15/2010 9:46:42 PM EDT
[#23]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Looks like you did good, M 44's  are really loud and with the right ammo  will get a pretty impressive fireball out the end of the muzzle when firing.




Thats what I've heard. I'm looking forward to it
 

Is there a good butt pad I can get for it.  That metal and wood doesnt look like the softest hitting thing in the world.  Or should I just man up


Don't need no steenkin' butt pad.  12 ga. birdshot is worse than a Mosin carbine (for me).

 
1/16/2010 5:03:47 AM EDT
[#24]
Great score for $50.  It is a somewhat rare piece being from Romania.   On 7.62 x 54r.net it gets an 8 out of 10 on the rarity scale.  It will make a great brush gun.  As stated above, VERY LOUD and great fireball.  If you intend to shoot it, take good care to clean it properly after shooting.  All milsurp ammo for these is corrosive so clean accordingly.  Some people may pay up to $250 for one of these.  Run of the mill Russian M44's about half that price.
1/16/2010 5:29:07 AM EDT
[#25]
HIJACK-  where are all of the $50 Mosins in East Texas?

Great looking rifle for $50.  I hope that it is a good shooter.

further info
http://www.surplusrifle.com/mosincarbine/index.asp
http://7.62x54r.net/
1/16/2010 5:34:00 AM EDT
[#26]
Wow, great score indeed.

I had no idea M44s in general were fetching the prices quoted in this thread. I remember the $59 days just a few years ago.
1/16/2010 5:55:05 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Great score for $50.  It is a somewhat rare piece being from Romania.   On 7.62 x 54r.net it gets an 8 out of 10 on the rarity scale.  It will make a great brush gun.  As stated above, VERY LOUD and great fireball.  If you intend to shoot it, take good care to clean it properly after shooting.  All milsurp ammo for these is corrosive so clean accordingly.  Some people may pay up to $250 for one of these.  Run of the mill Russian M44's about half that price.

It only gets an "8" if it is a matching numbers gun, this one is not. Bolt mismatched so it gets a "1". Still a rare bird in these days of a bazillion Soviet imports.

1/16/2010 6:56:33 AM EDT
[#28]
another thing to remember-

after you shoot corrosive ammo-

clean the BAYONET also. you would be surprised how much the bayonet changes the POI and accuracy, but if you dont clean the bayonet with solvents it will corrode / rust. clean the chamber and the bolt face well. hoppes #9 is really all you need. forgetting to clean it will wreck it.
1/17/2010 1:03:01 PM EDT
[#29]
Thanks for all the info guys.  Wish the bolt matched the rest of the gun, but am still happy with it.  It shall serve my purposes rather well.
Now I just have to spend some times on these sights and learn as much as I can.
Thanks
1/18/2010 3:08:46 PM EDT
[#30]
If the bolt matched it would be worth $175-200+ in that condition. Nice matching # Romanian M44's are hard to find, Most are mismatched bolt, beat to death and or a mix of Hungarian M44 parts.
1/18/2010 6:49:08 PM EDT
[#31]
you done good
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