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3/18/2008 12:45:48 PM EDT
Can I safely shoot commercial ammo in my FR8.

Thanks.
3/18/2008 12:57:31 PM EDT
[#1]
I've shot several boxes of Federal low recoil cartridges in mine. the recoil seem just a bit more than a 30/30 so I feel the pressures are nice and low which I prefer for an old rifle
3/18/2008 3:32:44 PM EDT
[#2]
I only shoot 7.62x51 NATO in mine.

www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2006/308vs762nato/index.asp

YMMV, and many seem to think that because it is based on a Mauser 98 action it can handle it (like the 98 can handle 8mm).

forums.gunboards.com/archive/index.php?t-8398.html
3/18/2008 3:43:41 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Can I safely shoot commercial ammo in my FR8.

Thanks.


The FR-7, NO, as it is based on an earlier, weaker Mauser action which was rated at lesser pressure levels.

FR-8, provisionally yes, if the pressure does not exceed that of milsurp Nato ammo.  SOME commercial loadings will fall into this category and will be safe to use.

Other commercial loads will exceed the rated strength of the action, and should not be used.

The action is rated for a certain pressure, and using ammo that exceeds that pressure is unwise and possibly unsafe.

Anyone who says different is either ignorant or foolish.  
3/18/2008 5:27:56 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Can I safely shoot commercial ammo in my FR8.

Thanks.


The FR-7, NO, as it is based on an earlier, weaker Mauser action which was rated at lesser pressure levels.

FR-8, provisionally yes, if the pressure does not exceed that of milsurp Nato ammo.  SOME commercial loadings will fall into this category and will be safe to use.

Other commercial loads will exceed the rated strength of the action, and should not be used.

The action is rated for a certain pressure, and using ammo that exceeds that pressure is unwise and possibly unsafe.

Anyone who says different is either ignorant or foolish.  


So to piss in your Cheerios, The FR8 is a 98 action. So anything over 40,000 to 45,000 is not doable. ????
It handles old Nitro rounds to modern magnums. It is still the strongest action made. So why do you think an FR8 action is not able to handle Modern .308 loads that average 49,000psi. I push my Mausers way further. Even the '96 action was chambered in 8x57, 30.06 and 9.3x62 that go way beyond the FR8's  ability by your standards. I do agree that discretion is the best course, but a '98??  jp
3/18/2008 5:52:34 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Can I safely shoot commercial ammo in my FR8.

Thanks.


The FR-7, NO, as it is based on an earlier, weaker Mauser action which was rated at lesser pressure levels.

FR-8, provisionally yes, if the pressure does not exceed that of milsurp Nato ammo.  SOME commercial loadings will fall into this category and will be safe to use.

Other commercial loads will exceed the rated strength of the action, and should not be used.

The action is rated for a certain pressure, and using ammo that exceeds that pressure is unwise and possibly unsafe.

Anyone who says different is either ignorant or foolish.  


So to piss in your Cheerios, The FR8 is a 98 action. So anything over 40,000 to 45,000 is not doable. ????
It handles old Nitro rounds to modern magnums. It is still the strongest action made. So why do you think an FR8 action is not able to handle Modern .308 loads that average 49,000psi. I push my Mausers way further. Even the '96 action was chambered in 8x57, 30.06 and 9.3x62 that go way beyond the FR8's  ability by your standards. I do agree that discretion is the best course, but a '98??  jp


Just because something can be done is not a good reason to do it.

While I might trust German, Austrian, and Swedish Mausers of certain vintages to be able to exceed their officially rated capacities, I do not have the same level of trust in the metallurgy and/or heat treatment of some other manufacturers, including the Spaniards during the early '60s.  I definitely would not compare commercial Mausers with mil-contract Mausers.

FWIW, better review your facts.  The '96 Mauser action of the FR-7 is rated to 45,000 CUP, and the '98 FR-8 up to about 52,000 CUP.

Again, some actions, with different barrels and better metallurgy will surely accept higher pressures, but not by much.  Comparing what a commercially-made Mauser was designed to be able to do from the start versus what a cheapest-bidder military Mauser was built to accept is comparing apples and oranges, and asking for trouble.

Go ahead and push your rifles all you want, just not around me, OK?
3/19/2008 6:59:43 AM EDT
[#6]
I just wish I could find an FR8 for a decent price.
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