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Posted: 4/28/2012 5:34:33 PM EDT
| Forgive my ignorance to the 22lr cartridge. although this question is relative the expectations of the reader I have a question regarding accuracy. With a issued M4 and an Acog I can group three rounds the size of a dime at 25 meters. With my 10 22 with heavy barrel, 9 power scope and kidd trigger group and numerous types of ammo the best I can do at 25 yards is a 1 inch group that spreads to 3 inches at 50 yards. Is this what I should be expecting from this setup? I was hoping for a 1 MOA rifle at 50 yards with this setup but maybe I am dreaming..... |
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Look at this thread in this forum: 10/22 accuracy
User eric10mm was getting half inch groups with a basic gun but better barrel. Looks like you've already got a good trigger. That is the usual first thing you do for 10/22 accuracy. Perhaps you might try ammo next. It appears the .22 rimfire is very ammo sensitive as far as accuracy goes. Your gun/barrel combo might like brand X better than brand Y. Mine was fairly accurate out of the box(SS version carbine) but had a terrible trigger that needed work. I just finished working it myself plus putting on a new scope and haven't shot it yet. So far much more accurate than my .22 conversion I use in my AR. |
| just a comment... the first year my teammates and I shot the Chevy STC we had pretty similar equipment.... 6-24x54 Tasco with Leupold scope mount in the factory threaded receiver holes(into an aluminum receiver)...at the end of the event, the mounts were loose on all three guns... I had bedded mine with LocTite cylindrical bonding compound under the mount, with red LocTite on the threads... you might check there...when we switched to a cantilevered mount off the barrel, did not have a problem, and shot 4 more years until they moved the locaton to Texas |
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One of my 10/22's has a .920" heavy barrel. (and a VQ 2000 trigger group and a Boyds TactiCool stock, etc. ) I think it might be a Green Mountain or something. Got it some years back in a package deal. Anyway, it was C-H-E-A-P. But, with CCI Std. Vel ammo its boring to shoot. At 25 yards they just keep going through the same hole, over and over and over again.
Maybe you haven't hit the right ammo yet. |
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OP what scope are you using?
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Try a different gun. 
I was never impressed with the accuracy of the 10/22. Is it a stock Bbl? Even the bull barrels had a pretty loose chamber. Mine is pretty damn accurate. It will shoot groups at 50 yds. that can be covered by a dime. A 10/22 can be a very accurate rifle is you tinker and tune. |
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A 10/22 can be a very accurate rifle is you tinker and tune. Much like a Mini-14. OP, how many rounds do you have through it? My 10/22's groups tightened up after about 200 rounds, I can make a 1/2" group at 50 yards with 5 shots and a 3-9x40mm Tasco. My marlin XT22TR got tighter groups after about 100 rounds of Blazer went through it. |
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Forgive my ignorance to the 22lr cartridge. although this question is relative the expectations of the reader I have a question regarding accuracy. With a issued M4 and an Acog I can group three rounds the size of a dime at 25 meters. With my 10 22 with heavy barrel, 9 power scope and kidd trigger group and numerous types of ammo the best I can do at 25 yards is a 1 inch group that spreads to 3 inches at 50 yards. Is this what I should be expecting from this setup? I was hoping for a 1 MOA rifle at 50 yards with this setup but maybe I am dreaming..... 1 MOA at 50 yards would be 1/2" size group, is this what you meant? 1 MOA is 1 MOA regardless of the range. My TacSol and factory 10/202 barrel can achieve 1" groups at 50 yards with most bulk ammo. |
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Mine with a 20" Volquartsen barrel and Power Custom Ti action kit shoots sub 1/4 moa at 50 with American Eagle ammo. That's impossible, that would be a group size smaller than the diameter of the bullet itself. Even a 1/4" group at 50 yards (1/2 MOA) would be a tall tale, not impossible, but it would pretty much be 1 hole almost the same diameter as the bullet. I'm calling BS. |
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Mine with a 20" Volquartsen barrel and Power Custom Ti action kit shoots sub 1/4 moa at 50 with American Eagle ammo. That's impossible, that would be a group size smaller than the diameter of the bullet itself. Even a 1/4" group at 50 yards (1/2 MOA) would be a tall tale, not impossible, but it would pretty much be 1 hole almost the same diameter as the bullet. I'm calling BS. He probably means 1/4" @ 50. Many people have no idea what MOA is however its thrown around like the term "milspec". |
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Not to question anyone's accuracy claims using a 10/22 but at what point, after a bunch of mods, does a 10/22 cease being a 10/22? If all you're shooting is a 10/22 aluminum receiver and possibly SS bolt only, should it still be considered a 10/22?  yes. Is a 1911 made from parts still a 1911? or an ar 15 from parts still an ar 15? |
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Im running a nikon prostaff rimfire 3x9x40mm BDC on the 10/22 and have approximately 1000 rounds through the barrel. I am looking for 1 MOA or .5 inch groups at 50 yards How do u like that scope? I've been seriously considering it for one of my rifles but am afraid the reticle is too busy for my needs since I don't shoot it past 75 yards. |
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sorry used to 100 yard groups. Yes my 10/22 shoots around the .25" at 50 yards with it's best at .184 5 shots. . That's one hell of a ragged hole, but believable with that barrel. I wasn't thinking completely clearly earlier and didn't consider that group size is measured from the average center of the holes, not the diameter of the group. My apologies. |
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Im running a nikon prostaff rimfire 3x9x40mm BDC on the 10/22 and have approximately 1000 rounds through the barrel. I am looking for 1 MOA or .5 inch groups at 50 yards How do u like that scope? I've been seriously considering it for one of my rifles but am afraid the reticle is too busy for my needs since I don't shoot it past 75 yards. Love the scope. if you have an Iphone you can download nikons spot on ap and plug in the infor and it will show you the drop in the scopefor a given load, distance and magnification power. Glass is clear and the turrets are pretty good for a rimfire. The reticle doesnt get in the way at all for me. sometimes though I wish the crosshairs were more fine |
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You should be doing better than that. Have you checked your headspace? Ruger doesn't put alot of care in the holding tolerances on these. What stock and how are you bedding? I have mine bedded for the first inch or two on my heavy and seems to work. They can get finicky with the amount of torque on the screw or pressure points on the barrel and all kinds of fun stuff.
I don't know who makes TI's barrels but i believe people like green mountain and clerke make barrels for other people. Can you see any dings in the muzzle? Again try different ammo. I lucked out and mine shoots blazer as good as wolf other than random fliers from time to time. Something else is see if it likes to be dirty. Some people scrub the hell out of these like it's a fouled up centerfire when usually a few patches on a string are enough. Scope mounting issues? Eliminate some of that and if you can't get it to tighten up i'd give green mountain a call and use your barrel for a tomato stake. |
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Love the scope. if you have an Iphone you can download nikons spot on ap and plug in the infor and it will show you the drop in the scopefor a given load, distance and magnification power. Glass is clear and the turrets are pretty good for a rimfire. The reticle doesnt get in the way at all for me. sometimes though I wish the crosshairs were more fine I just took a look at the Nikon SpotOn app and it doesn't have great feedback. For $4.99 I'll pass. |
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sorry used to 100 yard groups. Yes my 10/22 shoots around the .25" at 50 yards with it's best at .184 5 shots. . How are you measuring these groups? I ask because you're talking about putting a bullet with a diameter of.220 inches (actually slightly larger) through a smaller hole. Even if your two widest shots were touching, you'd still have a roughly .220 inch group measured from center to center. |
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OP what scope are you using? Quoted:
Try a different gun.
I was never impressed with the accuracy of the 10/22. Is it a stock Bbl? Even the bull barrels had a pretty loose chamber. Mine is pretty damn accurate. It will shoot groups at 50 yds. that can be covered by a dime. A 10/22 can be a very accurate rifle is you tinker and tune. Mine easily shoots sub-moa groups w a Numerich heavy barrel & lightened & smoothed trigger usind bulk Rem ammo. JR |
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