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11/16/2011 6:56:07 PM EDT
i'd like a threaded bull barrel, but i'm wondering about which length to get.  will i get anything extra out of a longer (20") barrel, or is a shorter (16.5" or 18") ok?  it would be used mainly for punching holes in paper.  is the extra money for a kidd barrel really worth it, or is an e.r. shaw barrel enough?  who makes the barrels sold on tacticalinc.com?
11/16/2011 7:27:07 PM EDT
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*supposedly* a 14" or so barrel is the "ideal" length to get the max velocity from standard velocity .22 LR ammo. longer barrels tend to slow down the projectiles... or so i've heard.

but a longer 20" barrel will have more weight out front and may be easier to hold steady. however, it may also have more "whip" when it fired. i say "may" because you'd have to chip it down inch by inch to ever prove, or disprove that theory. and a .22 doesn't cause much barrel whip in a .920" barrel.

in the end, i think it simply comes down to what length YOU like best. (as long as it's legal)

the comparison i've heard between Kidd and (usually) Green Mountain barrels, but it should apply to ER Shaw too was that "all Kidd barrels shoot great, some GM, ERS, whatever barrels shoot great, some shoot good, a few not so good."

i don't think i've ever heard anyone complain about a Kidd barrel. occasionally there's a complaint about other brands. and then there's the ultra premium stuff like Lija, Shillen, etc. which is about three times the price of a Kidd IIRC.

Kidd and Volquartsen are usually considered to be very good barrels. a rimfire barrel will last thru several generations of shooters as long as you treat it well, don't beat it up with a cleaning rod or wear out the muzzle, shoot ammo that you drop in the dirt or otherwise neglect or abuse it. so, if you can justify the expense of the Kidd, Volquartsen or other parts you'll probably enjoy them for a very long time. if the budget is tight and doesn't allow that, don't worry about it. get good parts for your money and have fun.

Clark also seems to have a very good reputation, just not as common as Kidd or GM.
11/16/2011 7:49:28 PM EDT
[#2]
sounds good.  i'll probably go with either 16.5" or 18" threaded kidd barrel.  in the end it will have a gemtech as well.
11/16/2011 8:12:26 PM EDT
[#3]
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sounds good.  i'll probably go with either 16.5" or 18" threaded kidd barrel.  in the end it will have a gemtech as well.


if you're putting a can on it that's a good reason to go with a shorter barrel and reduce the OAL.

there's also the option of an integrally suppressed barrel. Parashooter was saying that the Gemtech Oasis (think that's the one) was "spooky quiet" compared to screw on cans.

someone may mention the TacSol SBX which is a short barrel with a permanent cage that surrounds a screw on can (and is a legal 16.25" or something like that), which is a very cool concept, but the accuracy reports i hear from people with TacSols never seem that impressive and the price is basically the same as a Kidd. i wouldn't be happy if i paid that much for a barrel that averaged 1.5" or more @ 50 yards. i'm not making that up, that sems to be the average accuracy claim for them. shit, a stock gun should do that.
11/16/2011 8:18:06 PM EDT
[#4]
integrally suppressed barrels are sweet, but i'd rather have one can that i can use on multiple guns (i currently have a ruger mkIII 22/45).  i'm turned off by tacsol barrels since they all seem to be made out of aluminum and i'd rather have steel.
11/17/2011 8:54:59 AM EDT
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integrally suppressed barrels are sweet, but i'd rather have one can that i can use on multiple guns (i currently have a ruger mkIII 22/45).  i'm turned off by tacsol barrels since they all seem to be made out of aluminum and i'd rather have steel.


tacsol barrels are thin steel with an aluminum sleeve around them.

11/17/2011 3:42:02 PM EDT
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sounds good.  i'll probably go with either 16.5" or 18" threaded kidd barrel.  in the end it will have a gemtech as well.


Allow me to suggest the CZ 452 American with the factory threaded bbl. The accuracy on mine is beyond amazing, IMO. It keeps up with the longer, bull barrelled rifles I also shoot.
11/17/2011 8:20:15 PM EDT
[#7]
if i didn't already have the ruger then maybe i'd consider the cz.
11/17/2011 8:49:10 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Quoted:
sounds good.  i'll probably go with either 16.5" or 18" threaded kidd barrel.  in the end it will have a gemtech as well.


Allow me to suggest the CZ 452 American with the factory threaded bbl. The accuracy on mine is beyond amazing, IMO. It keeps up with the longer, bull barrelled rifles I also shoot.


This.  My 452 16" threaded CZ shoots sub MOA with no wind, and I've shot it out to 400yds on steel making consistent hits.  I couldn't ask for more in a .22 rifle.

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