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Posted: 2/15/2011 1:31:36 AM EDT
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My apologies if I missed a similar thread......
Has anyone considered - or actually gone so far - as to convert their personal weapons inventory to ALL rimfire weapons? Be it for economic or survivalist reasons, to simplify formats, or even out of sheer boredom and shits n' giggles? If so, please share your rationale and choices. |
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I have 2 rifles right now. Both are rimfire. I rarely go rifle shooting, as I am mostly at the clays portion of the range. I have a tricked out M&P 15-22, with a red dot, that I use for 0-50 Yard plinking, and I have a 22 Mag Semi, with a Vortex Viper 6.5-20 Scope that I use for 50-100 yard shooting.
The reason I went 22 Mag for that rifle vs 22LR, was so that I could have a little extra omph if I ever need to use it for hunting. I am also hoping to do some shooting past 100 yards this summer, and the extra velocity of the 22 Mag will yeild less bullet drop at long ranges. What nice about the 22 Mag as well, is the price of ammo. 10-15 bucks a box of 50 is very cheap to me, so I have no problem ripping off a few rounds when I'm shooting it. If I was shooting 308 or something like that, I would think twice about doing so. The best part about these 2 rifles, is that they are plenty accurate for what I want to do, have very inexpensive ammo, and the best part to me, is that I dont have to worry about collecting my brass for reloading. I just sweep it up and throw it all away. |
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For a large list of economical and practical reasons I fully support standardizing calibers and simplifying collections. I am also big fan of the .22LR cartridge for numerous reasons and have multiple rifles and pistols chambered in that caliber. That said, I think a collection of nothing but .22LR would be a mistake unless you’re only purpose for owning firearms is target shooting and small game hunting.
I do not feel the .22LR is sufficient for self defense. For that purpose I believe you need and centerfire handgun (either 9mm, 40S&W or .45ACP) and a centerfire rifle in an intermediate caliber, preferably something with detachable magazine. I feel a properly configured AR-15 is best overall choice for that purpose but there are other valid options. After that, it just depends on what other activities you take part in? It’s hard to image a firearm collection without a 12ga shotgun which has multiple potential uses. If you hunt anything deer sized of larger, you should have a rifle well suited for that purpose. If I was starting from scratch and wanted to buy a well rounded but cost conscience collection of firearms that could handle most tasks short of big game hunting, this is what I would buy… Handgun: Glock G17 or G19 with a AA or TacSol .22lr conversion for cheap practice and plinking. If money permited, I would also get a Browning Buckmark for target shooting purposes. Rifle: Smith & Wesson M&P15A which I would outfit with a 1-4x optic in a quick detach mount. The rifle can be used on 1x or irons only for SD and with the scope on 4x can be used for hunting small to medium sized game. I would also get a CMMG or Spikes .22 conversion for it for cheap practice and plinking. I would then get a dedicated .22 rifle for serious target shooting and 22 hunting. For that I would probably get a CZ 452 or 455 American but I wouldn’t rule out an upgraded 10/22. Shotgun: Remington 870 12ga-2 barrel set. One barrel being a 26” or 28" smooth bore barrel w/screw-in chokes for various bird hunting and clay pigeon shooting and the other being a 20” slug barrel for deer hunting. With those 3-5 weapons and 2 conversion kits, you could do just about anything you would ever need or want to do shooting wise short of big game hunting |
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You're asking one thing and answering another.
We're also looking at this two different ways. You're looking at this as a fleet owner. You want to be able to call up and order a pallet of oil filters to fit every pickup in the fleet. I'm looking at it as a car enthusiast. I like having a Mustang over here and a jacked up F-250 over there. Do I have my Honda Accord that I drive everyday in the garage too, sure! However, I'm not JUST going to own Honda accords so I can order all my filters the same!. Then, you talk about survival. Totally different bag of snakes there. Will I grab a .22, yes, maybe, I think. Depends entirely on the bug-out situation. But to your orig question, why limit yourself? |
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I think it depends on needs & wants. I am mostly at the Shotgun range, so therefore, I am more into my shotguns. I like to hit the rifle range every now and then, so 22 is fine. I dont hunt, or anything like that, and I only use the rifles for fun / target shooting.
I think to limit yourself to 22 just because it allows you to stock only one ammo is not smart. If it fits your needs, then I say go for it. It really comes down to what YOU want to do with your firearms. |
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Thanks for taking the time to write this response.
Your thoughts are VERY similar to my current plan. I also see the importance of a simplified, yet diversified personal weapons inventory. I presently have a DPMS LRT SASS in .308, an AR-15 in 5.56, and two Glock 17's. Within the next few months I'll be picking up a Remington 870, and assembling a dedicated .22LR AR format rifle. I can foresee acquiring more .22LR's, but contrary to what some members assumed from my original post, I agree wholeheartedly that they'll be more for economical training and fun than any defensive/survival applications. I started the thread as one of my co-workers here in the Land of Oz decided that he is reducing his collection to a Glock 21, Savage MKII, Ruger 10/22 and one of those "survival" .22's that break-down. The decision is mostly economic, but I'm trying to convince him to retain at least one long gun (AR-15) for defensive and survival purposes. Thanks again for the feedback everyone................ Quoted:
For a large list of economical and practical reasons I fully support standardizing calibers and simplifying collections. I am also big fan of the .22LR cartridge for numerous reasons and have multiple rifles and pistols chambered in that caliber. That said, I think a collection of nothing but .22LR would be a mistake unless you’re only purpose for owning firearms is target shooting and small game hunting. I do not feel the .22LR is sufficient for self defense. For that purpose I believe you need and centerfire handgun (either 9mm, 40S&W or .45ACP) and a centerfire rifle in an intermediate caliber, preferably something with detachable magazine. I feel a properly configured AR-15 is best overall choice for that purpose but there are other valid options. After that, it just depends on what other activities you take part in? It’s hard to image a firearm collection without a 12ga shotgun which has multiple potential uses. If you hunt anything deer sized of larger, you should have a rifle well suited for that purpose. If I was starting from scratch and wanted to buy a well rounded but cost conscience collection of firearms that could handle most tasks short of big game hunting, this is what I would buy… Handgun: Glock G17 or G19 with a AA or TacSol .22lr conversion for cheap practice and plinking. If money permited, I would also get a Browning Buckmark for target shooting purposes. Rifle: Smith & Wesson M&P15A which I would outfit with a 1-4x optic in a quick detach mount. The rifle can be used on 1x or irons only for SD and with the scope on 4x can be used for hunting small to medium sized game. I would also get a CMMG or Spikes .22 conversion for it for cheap practice and plinking. I would then get a dedicated .22 rifle for serious target shooting and 22 hunting. For that I would probably get a CZ 452 or 455 American but I wouldn’t rule out an upgraded 10/22. Shotgun: Remington 870 12ga-2 barrel set. One barrel being a 26” or 28" smooth bore barrel w/screw-in chokes for various bird hunting and clay pigeon shooting and the other being a 20” slug barrel for deer hunting. With those 3-5 weapons and 2 conversion kits, you could do just about anything you would ever need or want to do shooting wise short of big game hunting |
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I own more rimfires than anything else. Not that I don't have anything else with some oomph, but I just enjoy collecting and shooting rimfires more than any other caliber. +1 I got back on the rimfire wagon about 2-3 years ago when ammo prices began going apeshit & shortages abounded. While I still love shooting my AR's, I find I get just as much (if not more) trigger control practice with a .22 for a lot less $$$$. To me, there's nothing more beautiful than a wooden stocked, blued rimfire rifle. My T-bolt below. http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z114/bobsgunsUSP/T-BoltTarget.jpg I fully agree with both of you
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