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Posted: 8/19/2016 7:56:08 PM EDT
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Looking for ear protection that is a good balance between range and tactical use, which may include being adapted to a helmet rail system at some point. Am I just limited to Peltors for rail mounted applications or are there other compatible adapters for MSA that I haven't been able to find? The Comtac IIIs may be a little bit beyond what I need. However, price isn't too much of a concern to get what I need but, I also don't want to pay for stuff I don't need, if that makes any sense. I would like to be able to interface with Motorola CP185 or HT1250 radios, but that isn't required. I've seen a lot of adapters for the HT1250 radio, but I'm not certain about the compatibility with MSA Supreme X's or Comtacs. The ability to hear ambient noise, electronic hearing protection, is a must, they will be going with me on duty. Right now, I've been looking at the Peltor Tactical Pro and MSA Supreme X. However, I'm not sure if the Tactical Pro will work with a rail system. |
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Honestly, I've had the Sordin Pro-X's for a little over a year, with the neckband and gel cups, and they've been 100% for me. First time I tried them on in an indoor range I doubled up, but forgot to the second time around and haven't since. No ringing in my ears, or the dreaded EEEEEEEeeeee sound, and I have a muzzle brake on my AR. No experience with the Peltors, but I'd recommend the Pro-X's anyday. Also the mic pickup on the Sordin's are very good, and the sound quality resembles what I'd hear without any earpro on neutral volume. On the increased ambient volume, I can hear my skin rubbing against the cotton of my shirt, it sounds papery, and I can hear sounds coming from the kitchen in my house when there are a few corners and hallways between me and whoever's cooking. The microphones and speakers are high quality, can't go wrong with it IMO. |
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^This. The sound quality described has been my experience as well with the Pro-X. Very pleased.
I haven't used rail adapters, but did find SARA: http://tnvc.com/shop/sara-sordin-arc-rail-adapter-gen2/ recoilweb write up http://srstactical.com/all-products/headsets-and-hearing-protection/parts/sara-sordin-arc-rail-adapters-gen-3-headband.html http://srstactical.com/all-products/headsets-and-hearing-protection/parts/peltor-arc-adaptors-left-and-right-side-attachment-kit.html Friend has Peltor with gel cups. Those are nice and comfy too. I'm interested to hear how you proceed. |
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Silynx Clarus pro
I have been using them for a few months now (at least 2x per month) I needed something to go under my crye nightcap I really like them. I used to wear surefire plugs under my electronic muffs as I have damaged my hearing in the past. The Clarus Pros are enough by themselves |
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I had never heard of Silynx before, I did check them out, The downside is comfort, I have never liked to wear in-ear anything (earbuds, foamies, etc.) as they always start to hurt after a while.
I'm really leaning towards the Sordins now, just trying to confirm compatibility with my Motorola radio. |
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I had never heard of Silynx before, I did check them out, The downside is comfort, I have never liked to wear in-ear anything (earbuds, foamies, etc.) as they always start to hurt after a while. I'm really leaning towards the Sordins now, just trying to confirm compatibility with my Motorola radio. I have the same issue with in ear earplugs, until I purchased 3M PELTOR TEP-100 Tactical Digital Earplug. These are the most comfortable in ear electronic earplugs I have ever owned because I am using the surefire foam plugs that go with their earplugs in the peltor tep-100's. It seems the Silynx use the same type of foam plugs and have different sizes for your ears if you may want to consider that. The are Silynx really intriguing me though and my peltors may end up on the EE if I end up liking them more.  It does seem like they have a lot longer battery life.
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I wanted to see what all the hype was about with those so I bought a pair of them for work because they were cheap and I figured if anything happened to them it wouldn't be a big deal but they were the most uncomfortable ear protection I have ever worn. The ear cups on those things felt like a hard rubber gasket. |
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Quoted: I wanted to see what all the hype was about with those so I bought a pair of them for work because they were cheap and I figured if anything happened to them it wouldn't be a big deal but they were the most uncomfortable ear protection I have ever worn. The ear cups on those things felt like a hard rubber gasket. Quoted: I wanted to see what all the hype was about with those so I bought a pair of them for work because they were cheap and I figured if anything happened to them it wouldn't be a big deal but they were the most uncomfortable ear protection I have ever worn. The ear cups on those things felt like a hard rubber gasket. FWIW they are a fraction of the price of the ones you mentioned in the OP. Also, in a way they are rubber gaskets preventing the sound from reaching your ears, so youre partially right about that  |
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Weird, I dont mind them. The gel cups on the ear sit very well for me. FWIW they are a fraction of the price of the ones you mentioned in the OP. Also, in a way they are rubber gaskets preventing the sound from reaching your ears, so youre partially right about that
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I wanted to see what all the hype was about with those so I bought a pair of them for work because they were cheap and I figured if anything happened to them it wouldn't be a big deal but they were the most uncomfortable ear protection I have ever worn. The ear cups on those things felt like a hard rubber gasket. FWIW they are a fraction of the price of the ones you mentioned in the OP. Also, in a way they are rubber gaskets preventing the sound from reaching your ears, so youre partially right about that
Glad they worked for you, but they didn't for me. Just giving my personal opinion on them. Yes the ones I mentioned are pretty expensive, But for me they were the most comfortable and I prefer them more than over the earmuffs. Also their NPR rating was higher than most low profile electronic earmuffs. I don't like anything interfering with my cheek weld. |
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Quoted: Glad they worked for you, but they didn't for me. Just giving my personal opinion on them. Yes the ones I mentioned are pretty expensive, But for me they were the most comfortable and I prefer them more than over the earmuffs. Also their NPR rating was higher than most low profile electronic earmuffs. I don't like anything interfering with my cheek weld. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I wanted to see what all the hype was about with those so I bought a pair of them for work because they were cheap and I figured if anything happened to them it wouldn't be a big deal but they were the most uncomfortable ear protection I have ever worn. The ear cups on those things felt like a hard rubber gasket. FWIW they are a fraction of the price of the ones you mentioned in the OP. Also, in a way they are rubber gaskets preventing the sound from reaching your ears, so youre partially right about that Glad they worked for you, but they didn't for me. Just giving my personal opinion on them. Yes the ones I mentioned are pretty expensive, But for me they were the most comfortable and I prefer them more than over the earmuffs. Also their NPR rating was higher than most low profile electronic earmuffs. I don't like anything interfering with my cheek weld. |
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I wanted to see what all the hype was about with those so I bought a pair of them for work because they were cheap and I figured if anything happened to them it wouldn't be a big deal but they were the most uncomfortable ear protection I have ever worn. The ear cups on those things felt like a hard rubber gasket. FWIW they are a fraction of the price of the ones you mentioned in the OP. Also, in a way they are rubber gaskets preventing the sound from reaching your ears, so youre partially right about that
Glad they worked for you, but they didn't for me. Just giving my personal opinion on them. Yes the ones I mentioned are pretty expensive, But for me they were the most comfortable and I prefer them more than over the earmuffs. Also their NPR rating was higher than most low profile electronic earmuffs. I don't like anything interfering with my cheek weld. I know, but you did quote me
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If you just want hearing protection (no comms). Comtacs can be bought for $280
http://www.hillas.com/Categories/3M-Tactical-Safety-Equipment/3M-Peltor-COMTAC-III-Hearing-Defender-MT17H682FB-09-CY-Coyote-Brown-1-ea-cs.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjw6O-9BRDjhYXH2bOb8Z4BEiQAWRduk9B7mUymGd2GMTTh7FdSSCKJtH932b9qvvG3_7rGd7YaAq5Q8P8HAQ |
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I have the same issue with in ear earplugs, until I purchased 3M PELTOR TEP-100 Tactical Digital Earplug. These are the most comfortable in ear electronic earplugs I have ever owned because I am using the surefire foam plugs that go with their earplugs in the peltor tep-100's. It seems the Silynx use the same type of foam plugs and have different sizes for your ears if you may want to consider that. The are Silynx really intriguing me though and my peltors may end up on the EE if I end up liking them more. It does seem like they have a lot longer battery life.Quoted:
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I had never heard of Silynx before, I did check them out, The downside is comfort, I have never liked to wear in-ear anything (earbuds, foamies, etc.) as they always start to hurt after a while. I'm really leaning towards the Sordins now, just trying to confirm compatibility with my Motorola radio. I have the same issue with in ear earplugs, until I purchased 3M PELTOR TEP-100 Tactical Digital Earplug. These are the most comfortable in ear electronic earplugs I have ever owned because I am using the surefire foam plugs that go with their earplugs in the peltor tep-100's. It seems the Silynx use the same type of foam plugs and have different sizes for your ears if you may want to consider that. The are Silynx really intriguing me though and my peltors may end up on the EE if I end up liking them more. It does seem like they have a lot longer battery life.I really like the TEPs, especially with the grey foam ear piece. Comtac IIIs are nice. I think they beat out my MSAs a bit in durability and comfort, but the sound quality in the MSAs is great. |
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If you just want hearing protection (no comms). Comtacs can be bought for $280 http://www.hillas.com/Categories/3M-Tactical-Safety-Equipment/3M-Peltor-COMTAC-III-Hearing-Defender-MT17H682FB-09-CY-Coyote-Brown-1-ea-cs.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjw6O-9BRDjhYXH2bOb8Z4BEiQAWRduk9B7mUymGd2GMTTh7FdSSCKJtH932b9qvvG3_7rGd7YaAq5Q8P8HAQ That's what I ended up going with for just under $250. Plus the non comms version comes with the gel cups standard. |
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My brother and I use them. For $40, they can't be beat. They'll do most of what my old MSA's will, and the difference in cost led me to sell the Sordins. I'm looking at in-ear options now, since wearing any sort of ear muff sucks ass in any sort of heat. |
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If you just want hearing protection (no comms). Comtacs can be bought for $280 http://www.hillas.com/Categories/3M-Tactical-Safety-Equipment/3M-Peltor-COMTAC-III-Hearing-Defender-MT17H682FB-09-CY-Coyote-Brown-1-ea-cs.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjw6O-9BRDjhYXH2bOb8Z4BEiQAWRduk9B7mUymGd2GMTTh7FdSSCKJtH932b9qvvG3_7rGd7YaAq5Q8P8HAQ I think I'm going to have to consider a comms-capable system like the Comtac III. The Sordins can be linked to my HT1250 using a 3.5mm audio jack but, that is just listening only. To get the two way communications, I'm still going to have to rely on a PTT system of one type or another and a lot of cables if I'm looking at it correctly. Someone correct me please if I am wrong. It appears as if the Comtac IIIs have the PTT NATO cable that runs to a PTT device which runs to an HT1250. |
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