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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:00:01 AM EDT
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I'm looking to pickup a light weight plate carrier and a 48hr/72hr pack that can be used together (perhaps bag attached to PC) with the ability to use either the PC or pack as stand alone items. My primary focus is weight, maneuverability, quality. Pricing isn't a major issue - I'm looking for something of quality that can take a beating - Id preferably like a setup that allows 2+ rifle AR mags in the front.
I've been researching for a few days now, but I feel like I'm just running in circles with the amount of brands out there. I'm hoping w/ the vast amount of knowledge on this forum you guys can help - Thoughts? Ideas? Product reviews? I would appreciate any help. Thanks. |
| are you looking for a ballistic plate carrier or more a chest rig with the backpack? In my survival kit, I use the condor modular chest panel because it was only $30 but it doesn't have padded shoulder straps which makes it more comfortable when carrying mostly any backpacks. I have two .308/Pistol mags on the front, flashlight pouch/light and suppressor pouch. The chest panel also rides high so its just above the packs waist belt which then i have my emt pouch and two more .308/pistol mags. If your looking for a plate carrier, your going to run into the problem with the plate carriers shoulder straps and the packs shoulder straps. Hope that works! |
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Yeah, I was looking for a ballistic plate carrier that provides at least level III protection .... I'm looking at a few options... any thoughts? Maybe some brands I should stay away from?
Ares Armor - Derma Plate Carrier 
with Ares Armor Combat XII Pack 
Is this a good brand? Is there a setup that might work better? |
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SKD's Pig carrier and Systema backs and straps are an option.
Another is to find a good plate carrier and then get a pack that fits your needs. I have a Mayflower Assault Plate Carrier and a Grey Ghost Gear lightweight assault pack. The Pack can be standalone or attach directly to pack. Lots of options. There are also companies that make zip-off back panels that interface with their plate carriers. Mayflower/velocity makes a few I believe. |
| Yea there is a ton of options and not knowing your budget it's tough! The ares armor system looks great, had never seen that...but you can get be 5.11 rush tier buckle system and get a backpack with removable shoulder straps and do the same thing as the ares system. |
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I have a Combat XII Pack that I use with my PC, and stand alone.
I wouldn't recommend it as a 72 hour pack, simply because it's not generally large enough for that task, depending on what you're bringing with you. It's more than adequate for a 24 hour pack, or assault pack where you want to have some extra stuff on you, but not on your PC. I put an extra medical pouch on the MOLLE, a weapon cleaning kit, extra water bottles, an extra flashlight, and a change of socks that stay in it permanently, and then add in anything extra I need for what I'm doing in particular in the main compartment. Then I can add in the extra magazines in the top part, if I need to. Or just more water bottles. If you tried to put in enough food and water and some sort of shelter/sleep system in it, and everything else you need for 72 hours of sustainment, you'd run out of room very quickly. |
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I have a Combat XII Pack that I use with my PC, and stand alone. I wouldn't recommend it as a 72 hour pack, simply because it's not generally large enough for that task, depending on what you're bringing with you. It's more than adequate for a 24 hour pack, or assault pack where you want to have some extra stuff on you, but not on your PC. I put an extra medical pouch on the MOLLE, a weapon cleaning kit, extra water bottles, an extra flashlight, and a change of socks that stay in it permanently, and then add in anything extra I need for what I'm doing in particular in the main compartment. Then I can add in the extra magazines in the top part, if I need to. Or just more water bottles. If you tried to put in enough food and water and some sort of shelter/sleep system in it, and everything else you need for 72 hours of sustainment, you'd run out of room very quickly. I, too, have an Ares Armor Combat XII pack, and agree with what my brother of another mother said. It is not designed as a 72-hour pack. It is designed as a "last hundred yards" pack. As in, those few items you'll need for the last hundred yards of a movement to contact or raid-things like water, ammo, comms, a few light snacks, that sort of thing. It's designed for an individual to carry a minimal amount of items which serve a distinct purpose. The pack is purposefully designed not to be big enough to carry so much that the person tries to carry too much. I have mine set up this way: Main Compartment: -2 hydration bladders -poncho Large Outside Compartment: -2 broken down MRE's Small outside compartment: -extra CAT-T TQ -Surefire spare battery/bulb carrier -a few chem lights of various colors Top Mag pouches: -6 PMAGs left and right side MOLLE: -1 smoke grenade pouch and M-18 each back MOLLE: -Eagle Admin panel w/ NFA paperwork and a Glock 19 mag -mag pouch w/ G-19 mag (total of two pistol mags on it) -2 TT 6-round shotgun panels (assorted shotgun ammo-00Buck, slugs, LL) Basically, I use mine as a reload/sustainment pack, and carry ammo appropriate for whichever gun I might have on me, as well as water and emergency food. |
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Dang, looks like it rules that out - I need 72 hours sustainment - Any thoughts on the PIG Plate Carrier? - Is their any negatives to it? Is there anything better that might be more suitable for an optional 48-72 hour pack ?
I've also came across the Banshee Rifle Plate Carrier |
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Has anyone tried these from Mystery Ranch: http://www.mysteryranch.com/military/military-pack-accessories/nice-6500-bvs-pack |
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Has anyone tried these from Mystery Ranch: http://www.mysteryranch.com/military/military-pack-accessories/nice-6500-bvs-pack just watched MR's video on these and it looks like a good idea. I'm curious to see what people say about them? 
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Has anyone tried these from Mystery Ranch: http://www.mysteryranch.com/military/military-pack-accessories/nice-6500-bvs-pack just watched MR's video on these and it looks like a good idea. I'm curious to see what people say about them? Issued with the FILBE main pack. Haven't tried mine yet. I don't know what advantage the Mystery cinch has over a properly positioned and adjusted sternum strap. |
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Has anyone tried these from Mystery Ranch: http://www.mysteryranch.com/military/military-pack-accessories/nice-6500-bvs-pack just watched MR's video on these and it looks like a good idea. I'm curious to see what people say about them? Issued with the FILBE main pack. Haven't tried mine yet. I don't know what advantage the Mystery cinch has over a properly positioned and adjusted sternum strap. Beware what rig you run it with. Full armor systems that have a shit ton of PALs webbing(Eagle CIRAS/BAE RBAV) stretched across the front, will have the real estate available to stick the two tabs of the Mystery Cinch in to. Certain plate carriers with less real estate and PALs webbing may or may not work. It doe's NOT work in conjunction with my Crye JPC. 
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Has anyone tried these from Mystery Ranch: http://www.mysteryranch.com/military/military-pack-accessories/nice-6500-bvs-pack It's a solution they came up with by not understanding the problem. |
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Kifaru Armour Grip perhaps? You said money was no object....  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqVF5uh-tPw"Our Armor Grip packs are no longer available for individual orders. They are now for unit order only. " |
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Back on-topic. Packs attached to PCs look like a good idea until one tries it. Long story short, use an appropriate pack with shoulder straps, and a vertically adjustable sternum strap. BTDT. This. No need to go big, I would recommend something around 2000 in^3, like the camelbak trizip or mystery ranch 3DA. The Futura yoke gives you incredible flexibility when using a pack while wearing body armor. |
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i've tried many over the years and for what you want and the choices the AVS with the harness is the way to go. With the harness you can attach something like the First spear exigent circumstance pack with itw's directly to it for 24/48 hour. scale down to the crye zip on panel with no harness or a pack with straps and chest strap. Get the optional padded shoulder strap covers
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