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5/31/2014 7:48:59 AM EDT
I understand that assault pack(24 hour packs)loadouts are largely mission dependant but could you guys give me some idea of a typical mission/load out one would see?

I'm buying the milspec monkey adapt pack for my plate carrier (so I can carry more water now that it's getting hot)
5/31/2014 7:59:51 AM EDT
[#1]
This is relevant to my interests. I have a few packs and can't decide what to utilize which for. Well I settled on my LBT day pack as a range pack for carrying ammo and the like.
5/31/2014 8:38:30 AM EDT
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METT-TC dependant, but some things your likely to see.

Sniffle gear, poly pro, woobie ect.

Wet weather gear, if applicable, or you care.

food, MRE, cliff bars w/e

TP/ wetwipes, this is a big one. life is grand till you gotta take a dump in the sticks and have to cut the pockets out of your $300 dollar CRYE assault pants so you can wipe your ass.

Water, always

specialized equipment

fresh socks

Thats what pops to the top of my mind when packing an assault pack, it depends alot on when your next resupply is or if your working out of vehicles or out of your ruck.
5/31/2014 8:40:25 AM EDT
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It totally depends on your mission. Things that I always have are a change of batteries for everything I am carrying, a gerber, a very basic cleaning kit( some water, those little throw away tooth brush things, glasses anti fog stuff, and some snack type food.  Typically I have an extra pack of cigarettes and a spare lighter, and a small collection of medications to make life easier (stuff like one dose of pepto chews, tums, some headache stuff).   If the weather is at all inclement I throw in a beanie and a wind breaker.

Now, in Afghanistan, it was all that plus: 400 rounds of 5.56 linked and then later 10x 40mm HEDP, 2 biometrics cameras, an explosives test kit, chemlights, 3-8 radio batteries, 2 mags of 5.56, 2 frags, 2 different colored smokes.. Oh and 2-3 different popup flares then 5-6 different pyro rounds once I changed roles.

I know somebody else going on the same patrols as me that carried a bottle of water, a radio battery, a beanie, and some Otis spunk meyer muffins; so it all depends on what you want to carry and what you need to accomplish your mission.


5/31/2014 10:35:33 AM EDT
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Now, in Afghanistan, it was all that plus: 400 rounds of 5.56 linked and then later 10x 40mm HEDP, 2 biometrics cameras, an explosives test kit, chemlights, 3-8 radio batteries, 2 mags of 5.56, 2 frags, 2 different colored smokes.. Oh and 2-3 different popup flares then 5-6 different pyro rounds once I changed roles.

I know somebody else going on the same patrols as me that carried a bottle of water, a radio battery, a beanie, and some Otis spunk meyer muffins; so it all depends on what you want to carry and what you need to accomplish your mission.
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That sounds like some serious "loadout inequality!" Did the bastard share any muffins?
5/31/2014 12:22:13 PM EDT
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Now, in Afghanistan, it was all that plus: 400 rounds of 5.56 linked and then later 10x 40mm HEDP, 2 biometrics cameras, an explosives test kit, chemlights, 3-8 radio batteries, 2 mags of 5.56, 2 frags, 2 different colored smokes.. Oh and 2-3 different popup flares then 5-6 different pyro rounds once I changed roles.

I know somebody else going on the same patrols as me that carried a bottle of water, a radio battery, a beanie, and some Otis spunk meyer muffins; so it all depends on what you want to carry and what you need to accomplish your mission.


That sounds like some serious "loadout inequality!" Did the bastard share any muffins?


400 rounds of 5.56 against a beanie water and a battery. Your muffins be mine baby doll!!!
5/31/2014 2:44:01 PM EDT
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It all depends on what you will be doing, and for how long.  Most assault packs are fairly small, so space is at a premium, thus making multi-purpose equipment attractive.  Many assault packs and many smaller packs do not come with a frame sheet, the installation of which aids considerably in user comfort, particularly if the pack is fully loaded.  If the option is available to purchase a frame sheet for your assault/small pack is available, then do so.  If not, buy some black HDPE sheet from Graingers and make your own.  Make a template out of thin cardboard, and remember it is easy to remove material, but hard to add.  Round off all corners, and sandpaper all edges to prevent the frame sheet from rubbing/fraying the pack's fabric.
5/31/2014 4:33:00 PM EDT
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It totally depends on your mission. Things that I always have are a change of batteries for everything I am carrying, a gerber, a very basic cleaning kit( some water, those little throw away tooth brush things, glasses anti fog stuff, and some snack type food.  Typically I have an extra pack of cigarettes and a spare lighter, and a small collection of medications to make life easier (stuff like one dose of pepto chews, tums, some headache stuff).   If the weather is at all inclement I throw in a beanie and a wind breaker.

Now, in Afghanistan, it was all that plus: 400 rounds of 5.56 linked and then later 10x 40mm HEDP, 2 biometrics cameras, an explosives test kit, chemlights, 3-8 radio batteries, 2 mags of 5.56, 2 frags, 2 different colored smokes.. Oh and 2-3 different popup flares then 5-6 different pyro rounds once I changed roles.

I know somebody else going on the same patrols as me that carried a bottle of water, a radio battery, a beanie, and some Otis spunk meyer muffins; so it all depends on what you want to carry and what you need to accomplish your mission.


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Good call, just one of those fucking things have enough calories to last you a week.
5/31/2014 4:39:37 PM EDT
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Like said above, it's mission dependent.  That being said, here is a short, generalized list, of what I would probably carry, in addition to whatever goodies were necessary for the mission.

Water
Boo boo kit (the most used first aid items, band aids, aspirin/ibuprofen, neosporin, etc.)
Pogey bait (beef jerky, candy, sunflower seeds)
Batteries for whatever gear you have that needs em.
Flashlight/headlamp (if your first or second line gear doesn't have it)
Weather related gear (either rain or cold weather gear, AOR dependent)

5/31/2014 4:41:57 PM EDT
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When re-enacting, and subject to various, questionably cooked meals, I always toted a bunch of bagels.  Old-time biblical survival bread.  A bag of them would easily last a weekend.  And no gut problems.
5/31/2014 9:17:58 PM EDT
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Now, in Afghanistan, it was all that plus: 400 rounds of 5.56 linked and then later 10x 40mm HEDP, 2 biometrics cameras, an explosives test kit, chemlights, 3-8 radio batteries, 2 mags of 5.56, 2 frags, 2 different colored smokes.. Oh and 2-3 different popup flares then 5-6 different pyro rounds once I changed roles.

I know somebody else going on the same patrols as me that carried a bottle of water, a radio battery, a beanie, and some Otis spunk meyer muffins; so it all depends on what you want to carry and what you need to accomplish your mission.


That sounds like some serious "loadout inequality!" Did the bastard share any muffins?


She would share sometimes.   But I also brought my own.  That's what dump pouches are for after all.
5/31/2014 9:59:09 PM EDT
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It all depends on what you will be doing, and for how long.  Most assault packs are fairly small, so space is at a premium, thus making multi-purpose equipment attractive.  Many assault packs and many smaller packs do not come with a frame sheet, the installation of which aids considerably in user comfort, particularly if the pack is fully loaded.  If the option is available to purchase a frame sheet for your assault/small pack is available, then do so.  If not, buy some black HDPE sheet from Graingers and make your own.  Make a template out of thin cardboard, and remember it is easy to remove material, but hard to add.  Round off all corners, and sandpaper all edges to prevent the frame sheet from rubbing/fraying the pack's fabric.
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What thickness do you recommend? I have a few packs this would work out for.
6/1/2014 5:54:42 AM EDT
[#12]
I purchased that pack, my only regret is that I didn't get one six months ago.  As far as load out goes, the mission drives the gear train.
6/1/2014 8:13:29 AM EDT
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What thickness do you recommend? I have a few packs this would work out for.
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It all depends on what you will be doing, and for how long.  Most assault packs are fairly small, so space is at a premium, thus making multi-purpose equipment attractive.  Many assault packs and many smaller packs do not come with a frame sheet, the installation of which aids considerably in user comfort, particularly if the pack is fully loaded.  If the option is available to purchase a frame sheet for your assault/small pack is available, then do so.  If not, buy some black HDPE sheet from Graingers and make your own.  Make a template out of thin cardboard, and remember it is easy to remove material, but hard to add.  Round off all corners, and sandpaper all edges to prevent the frame sheet from rubbing/fraying the pack's fabric.


What thickness do you recommend? I have a few packs this would work out for.



http://www.grainger.com/product/HDPE-Sheet-Stock-WP143600/_/N-1z13n16Z1z0ntwu/Ntt-hdpe+sheet?_=1401639077933&sst=subset&s_pp=false
6/1/2014 6:19:22 PM EDT
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Just kidding.  Thats pretty specific to me.


Normally excluding my specific tools and explosives I carry:

FAK + 2x TQ
4-6 chemlights
J-knife
Camelback/nalgene
Metal nalgene cup
Extra batteries
50' 550 cord
Clear eyepro
Snugpak bivy
Extra pair socks
Rubber gloves
Headlamp
Chlorine tablets
Sharpie
Lighter
Folding esbit stove, tablets
Small packs instant coffee
Protein/meal bars
Neck gaiter
Silk CW top
Black beanie
2-3 extra rifle magazines
Ziploc bags
6/1/2014 8:47:47 PM EDT
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I miss the goodies in that pack. I really love Detcord for most work, but the other items have their uses for larger destruction.
Batteries (for comms and various other things- not for self gratification devices), Ammo, Water, snivel gear, TP and other sustainment items are a must. Handi-wipes, toothbrush, and clean socks were always huge for me to feel like a new man.

SOS
6/2/2014 7:19:08 AM EDT
[#16]
Thanks for the responses everyone
6/4/2014 7:46:41 AM EDT
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Beat me to it.
Good read though.

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6/5/2014 1:57:52 PM EDT
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If you don't know what to do with a backpack, I can't help you.
6/5/2014 3:19:35 PM EDT
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That's good, because your post was certainly not helpful in any way. GD is thataway >>>>>>
6/5/2014 5:00:09 PM EDT
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If you don't know what to do with a backpack, I can't help you.


That's good, because your post was certainly not helpful in any way. GD is thataway >>>>>>


You don't know how to use a backpack?  My god, this case is worse than I thought.

Hold on, and... don't worry buddy, we'll get you through this.  


Here are my non-patented instructions on how to use a backpack:

Do you need water?  Put it in the bag.  
What about a knife?  Put that in the bag too.
Socks?  You guessed it... bag.
Food?  Sure thing, food comes in different sizes, you can find food that fits in bags.
Ammunition?  Well, as long as it fits and the bag can take the weight.
Booze?  Bag that shit up.
What about batteries?  Yes... batteries can fit in the bag, they're usually pretty small.
A hat? Yeah, why not... the socks might get lonely.

Caution: A note on dogs and babies.
Do not put babies in bags, especially bags that have zippers or are watertight.  While they might fit, babies are living organisms with legal rights.
Dogs are different.  Dogs might fit, but are of dubious practical value when they're small enough to fit in bags.

I'll give an example of what I have in my backpack:
The big pocket: a pair of Teva flip flops, a half-used bag of Red Man chewing tobacco, a used 1-gallon ziploc bag, two large rubber bands, one ear plug and an unused 12-hour yellow chemlight.
The little pocket: a small notebook, a 6-iinch photoscale, two packages of instant coffee, two Sharpie brand markers, an un-wrapped MRE spoon, my car insurance identification card, and a 500GB hard drive full of... shit, I don't even know.



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6/5/2014 5:16:27 PM EDT
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(minimums; non-mission specific)
subject to change.  READ THE BOARD

x1 60mm rounds HE
x1 HE/TC/FOG smoke
x2 colored smoke (same color)
x3 magazines M855A1 (4:1 tracer mix)
x1 magazines tracer
x1 PLB
x4 Kerlix (large) in 1-gallon ziploc
64 oz water
6/5/2014 5:29:40 PM EDT
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(minimums; non-mission specific)
subject to change.  READ THE BOARD

x1 60mm rounds HE
x1 HE/TC/FOG smoke
x2 colored smoke (same color)
x3 magazines M855A1 (4:1 tracer mix)
x1 magazines tracer
x1 PLB
x4 Kerlix (large) in 1-gallon ziploc
64 oz water
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Don't forget Rip-its

Those aren't optional
6/5/2014 5:43:20 PM EDT
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Don't forget Rip-its

Those aren't optional
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(minimums; non-mission specific)
subject to change.  READ THE BOARD

x1 60mm rounds HE
x1 HE/TC/FOG smoke
x2 colored smoke (same color)
x3 magazines M855A1 (4:1 tracer mix)
x1 magazines tracer
x1 PLB
x4 Kerlix (large) in 1-gallon ziploc
64 oz water


Don't forget Rip-its

Those aren't optional


Read the board.
6/6/2014 9:07:42 AM EDT
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You don't know how to use a backpack?  My god, this case is worse than I thought.

Hold on, and... don't worry buddy, we'll get you through this.  


Here are my non-patented instructions on how to use a backpack:

Do you need water?  Put it in the bag.  
What about a knife?  Put that in the bag too.
Socks?  You guessed it... bag.
Food?  Sure thing, food comes in different sizes, you can find food that fits in bags.
Ammunition?  Well, as long as it fits and the bag can take the weight.
Booze?  Bag that shit up.
What about batteries?  Yes... batteries can fit in the bag, they're usually pretty small.
A hat? Yeah, why not... the socks might get lonely.

Caution: A note on dogs and babies.
Do not put babies in bags, especially bags that have zippers or are watertight.  While they might fit, babies are living organisms with legal rights.
Dogs are different.  Dogs might fit, but are of dubious practical value when they're small enough to fit in bags.

I'll give an example of what I have in my backpack:
The big pocket: a pair of Teva flip flops, a half-used bag of Red Man chewing tobacco, a used 1-gallon ziploc bag, two large rubber bands, one ear plug and an unused 12-hour yellow chemlight.
The little pocket: a small notebook, a 6-iinch photoscale, two packages of instant coffee, two Sharpie brand markers, an un-wrapped MRE spoon, my car insurance identification card, and a 500GB hard drive full of... shit, I don't even know.

http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t457/dead-drop/stuffforbags_zpsa809d6ca.jpg

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If you don't know what to do with a backpack, I can't help you.


That's good, because your post was certainly not helpful in any way. GD is thataway >>>>>>


You don't know how to use a backpack?  My god, this case is worse than I thought.

Hold on, and... don't worry buddy, we'll get you through this.  


Here are my non-patented instructions on how to use a backpack:

Do you need water?  Put it in the bag.  
What about a knife?  Put that in the bag too.
Socks?  You guessed it... bag.
Food?  Sure thing, food comes in different sizes, you can find food that fits in bags.
Ammunition?  Well, as long as it fits and the bag can take the weight.
Booze?  Bag that shit up.
What about batteries?  Yes... batteries can fit in the bag, they're usually pretty small.
A hat? Yeah, why not... the socks might get lonely.

Caution: A note on dogs and babies.
Do not put babies in bags, especially bags that have zippers or are watertight.  While they might fit, babies are living organisms with legal rights.
Dogs are different.  Dogs might fit, but are of dubious practical value when they're small enough to fit in bags.

I'll give an example of what I have in my backpack:
The big pocket: a pair of Teva flip flops, a half-used bag of Red Man chewing tobacco, a used 1-gallon ziploc bag, two large rubber bands, one ear plug and an unused 12-hour yellow chemlight.
The little pocket: a small notebook, a 6-iinch photoscale, two packages of instant coffee, two Sharpie brand markers, an un-wrapped MRE spoon, my car insurance identification card, and a 500GB hard drive full of... shit, I don't even know.

http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t457/dead-drop/stuffforbags_zpsa809d6ca.jpg

Feel free to distribute this in a responsible and professional manner.


HA !!  

6/6/2014 9:17:10 AM EDT
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You don't know how to use a backpack?  My god, this case is worse than I thought.

Hold on, and... don't worry buddy, we'll get you through this.  


Here are my non-patented instructions on how to use a backpack:

Do you need water?  Put it in the bag.  
What about a knife?  Put that in the bag too.
Socks?  You guessed it... bag.
Food?  Sure thing, food comes in different sizes, you can find food that fits in bags.
Ammunition?  Well, as long as it fits and the bag can take the weight.
Booze?  Bag that shit up.
What about batteries?  Yes... batteries can fit in the bag, they're usually pretty small.
A hat? Yeah, why not... the socks might get lonely.

Caution: A note on dogs and babies.
Do not put babies in bags, especially bags that have zippers or are watertight.  While they might fit, babies are living organisms with legal rights.
Dogs are different.  Dogs might fit, but are of dubious practical value when they're small enough to fit in bags.

I'll give an example of what I have in my backpack:
The big pocket: a pair of Teva flip flops, a half-used bag of Red Man chewing tobacco, a used 1-gallon ziploc bag, two large rubber bands, one ear plug and an unused 12-hour yellow chemlight.
The little pocket: a small notebook, a 6-iinch photoscale, two packages of instant coffee, two Sharpie brand markers, an un-wrapped MRE spoon, my car insurance identification card, and a 500GB hard drive full of... shit, I don't even know.

http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t457/dead-drop/stuffforbags_zpsa809d6ca.jpg

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If you don't know what to do with a backpack, I can't help you.


That's good, because your post was certainly not helpful in any way. GD is thataway >>>>>>


You don't know how to use a backpack?  My god, this case is worse than I thought.

Hold on, and... don't worry buddy, we'll get you through this.  


Here are my non-patented instructions on how to use a backpack:

Do you need water?  Put it in the bag.  
What about a knife?  Put that in the bag too.
Socks?  You guessed it... bag.
Food?  Sure thing, food comes in different sizes, you can find food that fits in bags.
Ammunition?  Well, as long as it fits and the bag can take the weight.
Booze?  Bag that shit up.
What about batteries?  Yes... batteries can fit in the bag, they're usually pretty small.
A hat? Yeah, why not... the socks might get lonely.

Caution: A note on dogs and babies.
Do not put babies in bags, especially bags that have zippers or are watertight.  While they might fit, babies are living organisms with legal rights.
Dogs are different.  Dogs might fit, but are of dubious practical value when they're small enough to fit in bags.

I'll give an example of what I have in my backpack:
The big pocket: a pair of Teva flip flops, a half-used bag of Red Man chewing tobacco, a used 1-gallon ziploc bag, two large rubber bands, one ear plug and an unused 12-hour yellow chemlight.
The little pocket: a small notebook, a 6-iinch photoscale, two packages of instant coffee, two Sharpie brand markers, an un-wrapped MRE spoon, my car insurance identification card, and a 500GB hard drive full of... shit, I don't even know.

http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t457/dead-drop/stuffforbags_zpsa809d6ca.jpg

Feel free to distribute this in a responsible and professional manner.


That basically mirrors the contents of my bug out bag.

6/6/2014 11:07:05 AM EDT
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Read the board!

Haven't heard that in a while!

6/7/2014 7:36:01 AM EDT
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I dunno tweeter I got a lot of good ideas from this thread as a fat guy(working on that part)from nj who has never been camping or served in the military I would have never thought to pack stuff like extra socks etc

I know enough to ask people more experienced then myself about things I would like to learn about
6/7/2014 11:06:03 PM EDT
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If you are ever going to be out and about in the boonies socks are always important. For one month straight for clothes all I had was 2x sets of cammies, 2x of PT shorts (polyester, dried quickly) and 4x pairs of socks. I washed one set of cammies and shorts after a week and wore the other ones. Socks I had to change frequently or I would get blisters on my feet. Not to mention the smell from athletes foot. If you can't use your feet your immobile and become a burden.

My pack at the least carried;
Fleece top and beanie
Camelbak or Nalgene bottle
Cleaning kit for weapon and baby wipes for self
Snacks and smokes (I am an intolerant bastard without)
Some meds (ibuprofen, foot powder etc.)
Batteries
Ammo (dependent on mission)
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