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Posted: 4/26/2014 12:38:11 PM EDT
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What about green pouchs on a multi cam chest rig. With a green warbelt worn below it. All on top of woodland cammies? Quoted:
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That is an operator fashion faux pas. What about green pouchs on a multi cam chest rig. With a green warbelt worn below it. All on top of woodland cammies? You're just a hot mess aren't you? |
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That is an operator fashion faux pas. What about green pouchs on a multi cam chest rig. With a green warbelt worn below it. All on top of woodland cammies? You're just a hot mess aren't you? Because of a tight budget. I buy most of my gear on the EE or E bay and thru surplus. Almost every thing I have bought was ranger green. Until I got a smoking deal on a TT mave and X harness in multi cam. It all seems to work together. But I'm no expert on camo Sorry for the thread hi jack |
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Because of a tight budget. I buy most of my gear on the EE or E bay and thru surplus. Almost every thing I have bought was ranger green. Until I got a smoking deal on a TT mave and X harness in multi cam. It all seems to work together. But I'm no expert on camo Sorry for the thread hi jack Quoted:
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That is an operator fashion faux pas. What about green pouchs on a multi cam chest rig. With a green warbelt worn below it. All on top of woodland cammies? You're just a hot mess aren't you? Because of a tight budget. I buy most of my gear on the EE or E bay and thru surplus. Almost every thing I have bought was ranger green. Until I got a smoking deal on a TT mave and X harness in multi cam. It all seems to work together. But I'm no expert on camo Sorry for the thread hi jack No I'm the same way, EE is my homie. I've got some ACU stuff on my gear only because a lot of places have been doing ACU close outs. |
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What's the general consensus on mixing different camouflages & it's effectiveness? I'm not worried about fashion, I'm worried about effectiveness.
Something along the lines of Multicam and ATACS-FG mixed together maybe. Hell even throw some woodland in there with it, that stuff is still great camo even though it's not trendy like the other stuff is. (I realize Multicam & ATACS-FG is VERY effective and that's why it's trendy right now, just seems everyone forgot about woodland because Multicam is Tier 1 Operator Bro) Seems like a big blob of multicam kind of sticks out a lot in greener environments. I'm wondering if adding in some ATACS-FG pouches, vest etc would help break up the tan/brown of the multicam more and blend it even better in green environments? I know Mulitcam Tropic is coming out later this year & will be a lot better for greener areas where regular Multicam is too brown/tan for greener areas in the summer/spring. Multicam seems great for fall. What do you guys do in the winter, anyone running any white gear? I think there is Multicam Arctic or something coming out too isn't there? |
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What's the general consensus on mixing different camouflages & it's effectiveness? I'm not worried about fashion, I'm worried about effectiveness. Something along the lines of Multicam and ATACS-FG mixed together maybe. Hell even throw some woodland in there with it, that stuff is still great camo even though it's not trendy like the other stuff is. (I realize Multicam & ATACS-FG is VERY effective and that's why it's trendy right now, just seems everyone forgot about woodland because Multicam is Tier 1 Operator Bro) Seems like a big blob of multicam kind of sticks out a lot in greener environments. I'm wondering if adding in some ATACS-FG pouches, vest etc would help break up the tan/brown of the multicam more and blend it even better in green environments? I know Mulitcam Tropic is coming out later this year & will be a lot better for greener areas where regular Multicam is too brown/tan for greener areas in the summer/spring. Multicam seems great for fall. What do you guys do in the winter, anyone running any white gear? I think there is Multicam Arctic or something coming out too isn't there? First of all, allow me to congratulate you for thinking outside the box. Something rare. There is a school of thought that carefully thought-out, deliberately mis-matched camo, that is AO-suitable, might be the best prevention against the dreaded "blob", which is all the camo one wears blobbing-out into a single, recognizable human (possible target) form. For example, randomly mixing Woodland, Woodland Marpat, and OD/Ranger green in a wooded environment might be a camo advantage. Adding a few, staggered CB pouches might help. IOW, any combination of suitable camo patterns that might confuse the human eye might be preferable to a single camo pattern, no matter how universal such a camo pattern might be. Regardless of all the foregoing, as soon as you move, you are likely to be detected, no matter what camo you are wearing. FWIW, this is why I have assembled a considerable amount of GI surplus 3-color desert camo items, since they are so easily dyed to other shades. As in a lot of other things, like basic marksmanship skills, for instance, I think that a lot of posters here mistakenly put their faith in the latest version of camouflage pattern, and neglect basic field craft. If TSHTF, these unfortunate types will quickly be donors, not combatants. In short, whatever is AO-appropriate, and will contribute to human-eye/brain confusion is good. In most instances of woods/snow, I believe white pants and an appropriate upper garment is most effective. the problem is the personal web gear, which is usually too dark. Did I mention that the 3-color USGI desert gear is appropriate for a lot of winter environments, and not terribly dark even for wooded snow terrains? There are various USGI nylon nets that are of various colors that can be very effectively employed. IIRC, they are white, Woodland, and 3-color desert. Find them, and buy a bunch of each. Continue to think outside the box, and you will be miles ahead of most of the folks here. |
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First of all, allow me to congratulate you for thinking outside the box. Something rare. There is a school of thought that carefully thought-out, deliberately mis-matched camo, that is AO-suitable, might be the best prevention against the dreaded "blob", which is all the camo one wears blobbing-out into a single, recognizable human (possible target) form. For example, randomly mixing Woodland, Woodland Marpat, and OD/Ranger green in a wooded environment might be a camo advantage. Adding a few, staggered CB pouches might help. IOW, any combination of suitable camo patterns that might confuse the human eye might be preferable to a single camo pattern, no matter how universal such a camo pattern might be. Regardless of all the foregoing, as soon as you move, you are likely to be detected, no matter what camo you are wearing. FWIW, this is why I have assembled a considerable amount of GI surplus 3-color desert camo items, since they are so easily dyed to other shades. As in a lot of other things, like basic marksmanship skills, for instance, I think that a lot of posters here mistakenly put their faith in the latest version of camouflage pattern, and neglect basic field craft. If TSHTF, these unfortunate types will quickly be donors, not combatants. In short, whatever is AO-appropriate, and will contribute to human-eye/brain confusion is good. In most instances of woods/snow, I believe white pants and an appropriate upper garment is most effective. the problem is the personal web gear, which is usually too dark. Did I mention that the 3-color USGI desert gear is appropriate for a lot of winter environments, and not terribly dark even for wooded snow terrains? There are various USGI nylon nets that are of various colors that can be very effectively employed. IIRC, they are white, Woodland, and 3-color desert. Find them, and buy a bunch of each. Continue to think outside the box, and you will be miles ahead of most of the folks here. Quoted:
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What's the general consensus on mixing different camouflages & it's effectiveness? I'm not worried about fashion, I'm worried about effectiveness. Something along the lines of Multicam and ATACS-FG mixed together maybe. Hell even throw some woodland in there with it, that stuff is still great camo even though it's not trendy like the other stuff is. (I realize Multicam & ATACS-FG is VERY effective and that's why it's trendy right now, just seems everyone forgot about woodland because Multicam is Tier 1 Operator Bro) Seems like a big blob of multicam kind of sticks out a lot in greener environments. I'm wondering if adding in some ATACS-FG pouches, vest etc would help break up the tan/brown of the multicam more and blend it even better in green environments? I know Mulitcam Tropic is coming out later this year & will be a lot better for greener areas where regular Multicam is too brown/tan for greener areas in the summer/spring. Multicam seems great for fall. What do you guys do in the winter, anyone running any white gear? I think there is Multicam Arctic or something coming out too isn't there? First of all, allow me to congratulate you for thinking outside the box. Something rare. There is a school of thought that carefully thought-out, deliberately mis-matched camo, that is AO-suitable, might be the best prevention against the dreaded "blob", which is all the camo one wears blobbing-out into a single, recognizable human (possible target) form. For example, randomly mixing Woodland, Woodland Marpat, and OD/Ranger green in a wooded environment might be a camo advantage. Adding a few, staggered CB pouches might help. IOW, any combination of suitable camo patterns that might confuse the human eye might be preferable to a single camo pattern, no matter how universal such a camo pattern might be. Regardless of all the foregoing, as soon as you move, you are likely to be detected, no matter what camo you are wearing. FWIW, this is why I have assembled a considerable amount of GI surplus 3-color desert camo items, since they are so easily dyed to other shades. As in a lot of other things, like basic marksmanship skills, for instance, I think that a lot of posters here mistakenly put their faith in the latest version of camouflage pattern, and neglect basic field craft. If TSHTF, these unfortunate types will quickly be donors, not combatants. In short, whatever is AO-appropriate, and will contribute to human-eye/brain confusion is good. In most instances of woods/snow, I believe white pants and an appropriate upper garment is most effective. the problem is the personal web gear, which is usually too dark. Did I mention that the 3-color USGI desert gear is appropriate for a lot of winter environments, and not terribly dark even for wooded snow terrains? There are various USGI nylon nets that are of various colors that can be very effectively employed. IIRC, they are white, Woodland, and 3-color desert. Find them, and buy a bunch of each. Continue to think outside the box, and you will be miles ahead of most of the folks here. ^+1. Well said raf. I often go into the woods with buddies and they tell me how well I blend in. All my gear is Ranger Green and I have camo BDUs under that. I've always thought what you just said, but you are able to describe it. I read your comment about white pants in a sniper book. Many people do the opposite which makes you stand out even worse. The snow is on the ground, but trees are often clear. A lot of guys run a white overwhite jacket and keep their trousers camo. It makes you stand out because you are the only thing that is white on top and dark on the bottom. |
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^+1. Well said raf. I often go into the woods with buddies and they tell me how well I blend in. All my gear is Ranger Green and I have camo BDUs under that. I've always thought what you just said, but you are able to describe it. I read your comment about white pants in a sniper book. Many people do the opposite which makes you stand out even worse. The snow is on the ground, but trees are often clear. A lot of guys run a white overwhite jacket and keep their trousers camo. It makes you stand out because you are the only thing that is white on top and dark on the bottom. Quoted:
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What's the general consensus on mixing different camouflages & it's effectiveness? I'm not worried about fashion, I'm worried about effectiveness. Something along the lines of Multicam and ATACS-FG mixed together maybe. Hell even throw some woodland in there with it, that stuff is still great camo even though it's not trendy like the other stuff is. (I realize Multicam & ATACS-FG is VERY effective and that's why it's trendy right now, just seems everyone forgot about woodland because Multicam is Tier 1 Operator Bro) Seems like a big blob of multicam kind of sticks out a lot in greener environments. I'm wondering if adding in some ATACS-FG pouches, vest etc would help break up the tan/brown of the multicam more and blend it even better in green environments? I know Mulitcam Tropic is coming out later this year & will be a lot better for greener areas where regular Multicam is too brown/tan for greener areas in the summer/spring. Multicam seems great for fall. What do you guys do in the winter, anyone running any white gear? I think there is Multicam Arctic or something coming out too isn't there? First of all, allow me to congratulate you for thinking outside the box. Something rare. There is a school of thought that carefully thought-out, deliberately mis-matched camo, that is AO-suitable, might be the best prevention against the dreaded "blob", which is all the camo one wears blobbing-out into a single, recognizable human (possible target) form. For example, randomly mixing Woodland, Woodland Marpat, and OD/Ranger green in a wooded environment might be a camo advantage. Adding a few, staggered CB pouches might help. IOW, any combination of suitable camo patterns that might confuse the human eye might be preferable to a single camo pattern, no matter how universal such a camo pattern might be. Regardless of all the foregoing, as soon as you move, you are likely to be detected, no matter what camo you are wearing. FWIW, this is why I have assembled a considerable amount of GI surplus 3-color desert camo items, since they are so easily dyed to other shades. As in a lot of other things, like basic marksmanship skills, for instance, I think that a lot of posters here mistakenly put their faith in the latest version of camouflage pattern, and neglect basic field craft. If TSHTF, these unfortunate types will quickly be donors, not combatants. In short, whatever is AO-appropriate, and will contribute to human-eye/brain confusion is good. In most instances of woods/snow, I believe white pants and an appropriate upper garment is most effective. the problem is the personal web gear, which is usually too dark. Did I mention that the 3-color USGI desert gear is appropriate for a lot of winter environments, and not terribly dark even for wooded snow terrains? There are various USGI nylon nets that are of various colors that can be very effectively employed. IIRC, they are white, Woodland, and 3-color desert. Find them, and buy a bunch of each. Continue to think outside the box, and you will be miles ahead of most of the folks here. ^+1. Well said raf. I often go into the woods with buddies and they tell me how well I blend in. All my gear is Ranger Green and I have camo BDUs under that. I've always thought what you just said, but you are able to describe it. I read your comment about white pants in a sniper book. Many people do the opposite which makes you stand out even worse. The snow is on the ground, but trees are often clear. A lot of guys run a white overwhite jacket and keep their trousers camo. It makes you stand out because you are the only thing that is white on top and dark on the bottom. Sounds like your real-life experience matches mine. I guess we both have some common sense and experience. Let's see how long it takes for folks to tell us we are all wrong. |
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The Army Rangers use multicam SOFLCS pouches over khaki MBAVs - if they figure its good enough for them I'm sure it will work just fine here in the states Perhaps you could expand on the abbreviations above for those here not familiar with same. Pix os the objects would be worth 1,000 words. Much obliged. |
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Perhaps you could expand on the abbreviations above for those here not familiar with same. Pix os the objects would be worth 1,000 words. Much obliged. Quoted:
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The Army Rangers use multicam SOFLCS pouches over khaki MBAVs - if they figure its good enough for them I'm sure it will work just fine here in the states Perhaps you could expand on the abbreviations above for those here not familiar with same. Pix os the objects would be worth 1,000 words. Much obliged. SFLCS: Special Forces Load Carriage System. MBAV: Modular Body Armor Vest Here's a nice collage of colors. 
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I'm thinking to stick with either Multicam or Multicam Tropic when it becomes available (either way I will get a set of Crye combat shirt & pants)
I'm waiting on a response back from Crye about their Tropic. Regular Multicam is dialed into the NIR spectrum and I'm not sure if Tropic will be also. If it is I will probably wait for it to be available from Crye, if it's not I'm going to go with Regular Multicam for shirt & pants. I just wished Crye would have made the combat shirts with ranger/OD green Drifire instead of the tan. That tan is a big blob and doesn't work well in a green area as well. (I realize tan works best in the sandbox) But I suppose if I'm wearing a vest of any kind that the shirt is mostly covered. But still. But then I will get all pouches, vest accessories in ATACS-FG Then have some Ranger/OD/Foliage green pieces & parts through out as well. Keeping with the concept of brain confusion, I think for my AO, this would be pretty effective. It's not like it would hinder in any way would it? |
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