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12/5/2013 9:22:54 PM EDT
Contemplating offering the PIG PC in Highlander...


12/5/2013 9:47:40 PM EDT
[#1]
Do eet.  You must.

12/5/2013 10:33:03 PM EDT
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12/5/2013 11:20:39 PM EDT
[#3]
Do it! Then give me one
12/6/2013 2:44:49 AM EDT
[#4]
Honestly I don't see what highlander brings to the table over multicam.
12/6/2013 3:22:15 AM EDT
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Money.
12/6/2013 3:49:46 AM EDT
[#6]
Why not Atacs in AU and FG?  Curious if the Atacs is here to stay or will fade away with all the new Multicam options.
12/6/2013 4:02:24 AM EDT
[#7]
Heresy. From grace, ye have fallen.
12/6/2013 5:00:27 AM EDT
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Me either.
12/6/2013 6:28:16 AM EDT
[#9]
Yeti or Nomad or I'll pass
12/6/2013 11:22:44 AM EDT
[#10]
I would get one in yeti
12/6/2013 4:28:10 PM EDT
[#11]
It's beautiful !
12/6/2013 5:15:06 PM EDT
[#12]
I really wish some gear makers would start making pouches and other gear in mandrake or highlander.  I really like kryptek.
12/6/2013 6:09:13 PM EDT
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You need to know the right people and ask the right questions and you can get anything you want.
12/6/2013 11:05:48 PM EDT
[#14]
I haven't seen good results with Highlander but Ive tested Mandrake, Nomad and Typhon and they all work pretty amazing in their perspective environments.  Obviously Typon is just for looks but for LEO it looks a lot better than MC Black which just looks like mud streaked black.  ATACS LEO stuff on the other hand just looks horrible.  Money wise I think Kryptek is a good investment.
12/7/2013 2:05:52 AM EDT
[#15]
Typhon looks like shit compared to MC Black, but they're both BLACK and made for looks. I'd venture a guess that MC Black is better at concealmeant in darkness than Typhon is though.
12/7/2013 6:13:29 AM EDT
[#16]
What does Kyptek look like not up close? It seems like all the fancy patterning will just meld together into something resembling ATACS. In other words, why bother?

12/7/2013 6:15:19 AM EDT
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I really wish some gear makers would start making pouches and other gear in mandrake or highlander.  I really like kryptek.

You need to know the right people and ask the right questions and you can get anything you want.


Esstac will make you anything.
12/7/2013 6:50:10 AM EDT
[#18]
Looks like it would work well in area.

West Texas.
12/7/2013 12:05:44 PM EDT
[#19]
indeed, Kryptek pouches and gear such have been available from a variety of makers since Nov 2012.

you just need to look

regarding MC Black and Typhon - its more of an outward appearance issue per LE or issuing agency.  I believe that in comparing the perceptual efficacy of both patterns in low light, MC Black composition leans more to human low light acuity.

PW/SKD, I would like to see loop patches in front of the PIG Kangaroo split flaps to facilitate attachment of load platforms - you would need only to cover the inboard two channels of both flaps

All, Multicam matches fairly well to Highlander base platforms
12/7/2013 6:17:26 PM EDT
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What does kryptek look like up close?





It looks like kryptek.

ETA: Ahh, read wrong. At a distance it works fairly well and is different than atacs.
12/7/2013 6:26:53 PM EDT
[#21]
I think any black camo is about looking cool. I am not sure if it is functional. In the dark you could wear yellow and you would still be dark.
12/7/2013 6:39:00 PM EDT
[#22]
Will buy.
12/7/2013 7:03:43 PM EDT
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Not really. Some colors reflect light more than others.
12/7/2013 7:18:23 PM EDT
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Kryptek Highlander in October, ~5500' ASL, Southeast Idaho
 



12/7/2013 7:20:26 PM EDT
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Same day.  In the trees.



12/7/2013 7:22:31 PM EDT
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Multicam vs Kryptek Highlander vs ATACS FG



12/7/2013 7:54:49 PM EDT
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Mandrake would fit a lot better.
12/8/2013 3:17:25 AM EDT
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Same day.  In the trees.

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Very RealTree looking in those pics.
12/8/2013 5:53:29 AM EDT
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Mandrake would fit a lot better.
Yes it would, but with all the lava rock we have around here, the deeper browns work a bit better out here.

 
12/8/2013 8:07:10 AM EDT
[#30]
Pic from haly

12/8/2013 9:39:29 AM EDT
[#31]
The only real camo is a ghille.

Atacs looks like you could replicate with a sponge and some Krylon
12/8/2013 3:42:18 PM EDT
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Black "camo"/uniforms are for one thing: intimidation and the appearance of authority. They are not meant to blend in with anything (unless they're rolling around a coaling station).

I'm not seeing how Kyptek is an improvement over Multicam or other prior patterns. Color me skeptical.
12/8/2013 3:44:37 PM EDT
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+1

ATACS reminds me of the spray paint camo the guys in MAC-V SOG did. I'm not saying it's not effective, just looks crude.
12/13/2013 4:37:17 PM EDT
[#34]
I would love to see this.  I have a multicam PC from you guys and would love one in Highlander.
12/13/2013 4:46:38 PM EDT
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I don't see what it could hurt and I think people would buy it. For me though, I don't think I'd use that pattern over multicam.
12/13/2013 4:47:40 PM EDT
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Not really. Some colors reflect light more than others.
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I think any black camo is about looking cool. I am not sure if it is functional. In the dark you could wear yellow and you would still be dark.


Not really. Some colors reflect light more than others.


This.

ACU actually glows in the dark, with any amount of moonlight. If you mean pitch black then yeah, but thats never the case.
12/13/2013 4:48:19 PM EDT
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Kryptek Highlander in October, ~5500' ASL, Southeast Idaho  

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It sticks out IMO and there are plenty of other patterns that don't.
12/13/2013 4:49:46 PM EDT
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Kryptec is nothing more than pretty and those other two patterns work a million times better. Again, it's my opinion and can be subjective, but with that particular kryptec I don't think it is.
12/13/2013 6:40:36 PM EDT
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Kryptec is nothing more than pretty and those other two patterns work a million times better. Again, it's my opinion and can be subjective, but with that particular kryptec I don't think it is.
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Kryptec is nothing more than pretty and those other two patterns work a million times better. Again, it's my opinion and can be subjective, but with that particular kryptec I don't think it is.

I thought that until I used it.  

Not the best pics but here's some of my stuff in Kryptek

Here's a low light shooting picture.  My top is MC and the pants are Mandrake.  When it was  light out and I was prone my wife said at distance she could kind of see the MC but the pants like disappeared.  Same in the woods.  When I was walking in the woods hanging targets she said the MC actually stood out where the Mandrake disappeared.  Wish I had more but I'm not big on posing for pics.



Here's my shotgun in Nomad.  It's great in sand/ muddy desert places.  All I have for the picture is this sandstone colored rifle bag.


Kryptek definitely isn't for multiple environments but in it's designated environment it's pretty amazing.  MC is awesome but Kryptek seems to break up the pattern better and uses better colors for the environment it's designed for.
12/13/2013 7:12:47 PM EDT
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Kryptec is nothing more than pretty and those other two patterns work a million times better. Again, it's my opinion and can be subjective, but with that particular kryptec I don't think it is.
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Kryptec is nothing more than pretty and those other two patterns work a million times better. Again, it's my opinion and can be subjective, but with that particular kryptec I don't think it is.


Yep. Your particular opinion is subjective. Thanks for sharing.
12/13/2013 7:14:31 PM EDT
[#41]
Intredasting...
 



I really need to pick up some samples of both Highlander and Nomad, to nail down which is better for this area.  I suspect it'll be Highlander, given the large amount of scrub and the local forested mountains.
12/13/2013 8:41:41 PM EDT
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I just took this, comparing MC to Mandrake.  



Honestly for Nomad, I have yet to see anything work better in desert environments.  I've seen Marine desert and the tricolor compared with the Nomad and Nomad kills it hands down.  I 'd like to see it compared to the new MC desert pattern.

I'm not a huge fan of the Highlander pattern but I suppose it works well in that type of environment from the pictures I've seen, but I haven't seen it outside of a store so I can't say.
12/13/2013 8:48:08 PM EDT
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Yep. Your particular opinion is subjective. Thanks for sharing.
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Kryptec is nothing more than pretty and those other two patterns work a million times better. Again, it's my opinion and can be subjective, but with that particular kryptec I don't think it is.


Yep. Your particular opinion is subjective. Thanks for sharing.


No need to be butthurt about it. I wasn't trying to be a jerk and made sure everyone knew it was just an opinion. Lighten up. Someone else mentioned it's definantly for specific areas and not like multicam per se. That's more the point I was trying to make.
12/13/2013 8:48:55 PM EDT
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I thought that until I used it.  

Not the best pics but here's some of my stuff in Kryptek

Here's a low light shooting picture.  My top is MC and the pants are Mandrake.  When it was  light out and I was prone my wife said at distance she could kind of see the MC but the pants like disappeared.  Same in the woods.  When I was walking in the woods hanging targets she said the MC actually stood out where the Mandrake disappeared.  Wish I had more but I'm not big on posing for pics.
http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n506/DDustin5/1456139_10152061057308278_1634868808_n_zpsc6397253.jpg
http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n506/DDustin5/1450227_10152061057333278_67370579_n_zps870d71db.jpg

Here's my shotgun in Nomad.  It's great in sand/ muddy desert places.  All I have for the picture is this sandstone colored rifle bag.
http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n506/DDustin5/IMG_20131126_163111_130_zps62cb8cf7.jpg

Kryptek definitely isn't for multiple environments but in it's designated environment it's pretty amazing.  MC is awesome but Kryptek seems to break up the pattern better and uses better colors for the environment it's designed for.
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Multicam vs Kryptek Highlander vs ATACS FG

<a href="http://s1112.photobucket.com/user/arfcomcvtrpr/media/photo_zpsed53abed.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k499/arfcomcvtrpr/photo_zpsed53abed.jpg</a>


Kryptec is nothing more than pretty and those other two patterns work a million times better. Again, it's my opinion and can be subjective, but with that particular kryptec I don't think it is.

I thought that until I used it.  

Not the best pics but here's some of my stuff in Kryptek

Here's a low light shooting picture.  My top is MC and the pants are Mandrake.  When it was  light out and I was prone my wife said at distance she could kind of see the MC but the pants like disappeared.  Same in the woods.  When I was walking in the woods hanging targets she said the MC actually stood out where the Mandrake disappeared.  Wish I had more but I'm not big on posing for pics.
http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n506/DDustin5/1456139_10152061057308278_1634868808_n_zpsc6397253.jpg
http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n506/DDustin5/1450227_10152061057333278_67370579_n_zps870d71db.jpg

Here's my shotgun in Nomad.  It's great in sand/ muddy desert places.  All I have for the picture is this sandstone colored rifle bag.
http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n506/DDustin5/IMG_20131126_163111_130_zps62cb8cf7.jpg

Kryptek definitely isn't for multiple environments but in it's designated environment it's pretty amazing.  MC is awesome but Kryptek seems to break up the pattern better and uses better colors for the environment it's designed for.


Thanks for the explanation. You put into words what I could not.
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