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3/12/2013 9:53:12 AM EDT
Got a question about the soft armor panel products advertised as Level IIIa "backers". I'm looking for pistol armor protection, not rifle at this time.

Will these "backer" panels work by themselves to give me Level IIIa protection, or would I need something else in addition?

Thanks.
3/12/2013 10:02:16 AM EDT
[#1]
They are one in the same. It is just your standard soft armor cut to size for the plate.
3/12/2013 11:38:47 AM EDT
[#2]
level IIIA armor is always level IIIA no matter what shape it is cut into. They are refereed to as "backers" because they are cut to a certain shape with the intention of them being put behind a rifle plate.

As a side note, most rifle plates require soft armor behind them to catch any low velocity fragments that break through the plates. These are refereed to ICW plates, or In Conjunction With plates, typically they dont label them as this just because its a unofficial standard for plates to have soft armor behind them. There are plates that dont require soft armor and they are called "Stand Alone" plates, meaning they can be worn without the soft armor.

In summary yes those level IIIA backers will work fine.
3/12/2013 3:48:10 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
level IIIA armor is always level IIIA no matter what shape it is cut into. They are refereed to as "backers" because they are cut to a certain shape with the intention of them being put behind a rifle plate.

As a side note, most rifle plates require soft armor behind them to catch any low velocity fragments that break through the plates. These are refereed to ICW plates, or In Conjunction With plates, typically they dont label them as this just because its a unofficial standard for plates to have soft armor behind them. There are plates that dont require soft armor and they are called "Stand Alone" plates, meaning they can be worn without the soft armor.

In summary yes those level IIIA backers will work fine.


Where do you come up with this stuff?

If the tag on the armor says that it is certified to a certain NIJ standard, and it has actually been certified by a laboratory (meaning that we are talking about real, reputable, armor manufactures), it is standalone. If it specified that it is ICW, it is ICW. No manufacturer would release an ICW plate to the civilian market and fail to label it as such because they would rightly be sued out of business if someone was injured or killed because they failed to put a plate backer behind their un-labeled ICW plate.
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