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10/12/2011 10:41:36 AM EDT
Im having a hard time deciding between the two and feel like I should just buy both.
My problem is I have not seen them in person outdoors. I have only seen Multicam in a store and Atacs only from pictures.
Someone convince me to get one over the other. I live in Idaho by the way so people in Idaho let me know what you think.
10/12/2011 10:42:37 AM EDT
[#1]
Take pictures of your local terrain and post them.  Then maybe we can give some advice.
10/12/2011 10:43:15 AM EDT
[#2]
Multicam is going to outperform A-Tacs in everything but a "straight-dirt" environment.
10/12/2011 10:44:06 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Take pictures of your local terrain and post them.  Then maybe we can give some advice.


Im not sure how to post a pic. Ive never tried it before.

10/12/2011 10:45:24 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Multicam is going to outperform A-Tacs in everything but a "straight-dirt" environment.


See thats kind of what I am thinking. Multicam seems like it can work for "multi" environments and Atacs is strictly for desert/dirt.

10/12/2011 11:08:55 AM EDT
[#5]
OP live in Idaho, doubt any deserts up there... Multicam might be his choice, but then again, he might live in an area with lots of dry brush, to A-TACS might work for him.
10/12/2011 11:12:32 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
OP live in Idaho, doubt any deserts up there... Multicam might be his choice, but then again, he might live in an area with lots of dry brush, to A-TACS might work for him.


Actually Idaho has many deserts with nothing but sage and dirt. Up in the hills though you get into woodland. But I do live in the valley which has few trees, a lot of farms and "desert" which consists of the sage and dirt.

10/12/2011 11:47:59 AM EDT
[#7]
What part of ID? Northen is more of a woodland sceme. Lots of pine trees and some under growth. Lots of dry grass and rocks as a base. I'd say multicam wins up there. Southern ID near the Utah border is more scrub brush, sage, and dirt. ATACS might do well in this area. If you are going to have a mixtura of both environments or move more east into the dense pine of the Rockies in MT then multicam is the best bet for multiple environments. Keeping in mind multicam is suited for a non-specific environment while ATACS is more specific. Multicam is a jack of all trades and despite the saying a master of some.
10/12/2011 12:09:58 PM EDT
[#8]
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What part of ID? Northen is more of a woodland sceme. Lots of pine trees and some under growth. Lots of dry grass and rocks as a base. I'd say multicam wins up there. Southern ID near the Utah border is more scrub brush, sage, and dirt. ATACS might do well in this area. If you are going to have a mixtura of both environments or move more east into the dense pine of the Rockies in MT then multicam is the best bet for multiple environments. Keeping in mind multicam is suited for a non-specific environment while ATACS is more specific. Multicam is a jack of all trades and despite the saying a master of some.


Southern Idaho by Idaho Falls.
10/12/2011 12:37:06 PM EDT
[#9]
I have to disagreet with ATACS being only for "desert".  I have used ATACS in timber, broken woodlots, and grassland and it works GREAT.  Multicam works great there too, but don't be too quick to discount ATACS.

Now if you are out in the sage or open country, ATACS can't be beat.  From personal experience, it works better than any commercial/hunting open country pattern.  We were hunting deer and antelope in open sage pastures last week.  The guys in ATACS simply disappeared.  Cabela's Open Country, Mossy Oak Brush, Max1, and digital desert failed by comparison.

OP, go buy some ATACS and give it a try.  You have to see it to understand how good it works.  If you don't like it, I will buy it back off of you.
10/12/2011 1:24:38 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Take pictures of your local terrain and post them.  Then maybe we can give some advice.


Im not sure how to post a pic. Ive never tried it before.



you need to set up an account with a pic hosting site like photobucket ( the one I use ) first. they are free.

it's very easy.

10/12/2011 1:35:17 PM EDT
[#11]
A google image search of "southern Idaho" shows a variety of terrain. From those photos only I would lean towards multicam.

However, Atacs is coming out with a foliage variation of their camo. I dunno when, but I remember reading about it here.

10/12/2011 2:42:47 PM EDT
[#12]
Found this when searching A-Tacs vs Multicam.



http://www.flickr.com/photos/60918869%40N03/



To me, in these photos, they're not very distinguishable from each other. Both appear "greyish" overall. A-Tacs seems to have a larger pattern with more slighly more contrast.



If you look at the camo comparison thread, you can see A-Tacs with Multicam and they are hardly distinguishable... they go well together.
edit: fixed link
10/12/2011 4:12:52 PM EDT
[#13]
Say I cant find all the gear I want in Atacs pattern but I have at least my clothing in atacs, what would go best with it? I dont want it to look gay but I also want it to work.
10/12/2011 5:38:07 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:

Found this when searching A-Tacs vs Multicam.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/60918869@N03/

To me, in these photos, they're not very distinguishable from each other. Both appear "greyish" overall. A-Tacs seems to have a larger pattern with more slighly more contrast.

If you look at the camo comparison thread, you can see A-Tacs with Multicam and they are hardly distinguishable... they go well together.


Link doesn't work ...

10/12/2011 6:14:15 PM EDT
[#15]
A-TACS works great in Rocky mountain terrain, as well as Desert and Urban Environments. MultiCam was designed for the variations in Afghanistan terrain with its mountains and river valleys/agriculture areas. MultiCam will do better if you live with multiple terrains. A-TACS is similar to Desert MARPAT in its ability to conceal in arid environments. It also works great from Far away, whereas MARPAT blobs up more.

They know have some field shots of A-TACS in Afghanistan. It looks like the guy in the first shot has MultiCam Pants: A-TACS in Afghanistan

A-TACS does have some green and the shadowing in the pattern works great in Wooded areas too, as many tree trunks are similar in color i.e. bark, moss, etc. Jungle may be a whole different story which is why they are coming out with the A-TACS FG - Foliage Green
10/12/2011 6:26:02 PM EDT
[#16]
its going to match GREAT in the DURT you roll in... its amazing how great an "equalizer" your local dirt can be on camo patterns.

DONT overthink this.  You OUGHT to know what your local environmental conditions and microterrain requirements are... and thus purchase accordingly.

If you cannot come up with a suitable match on your own using local materials and colorations, then I submit you havent given as much thought into how

best to take advantage of your locale, and thus acquire goods accordingly.

There is only so much that you can glean from store shelves and pictures in a book.

Go out and assess for yourself how the environment where you are pans out.
10/12/2011 8:35:02 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Multicam is going to outperform A-Tacs in everything but a "straight-dirt" environment.


Ford will outperform Chevy on everything but the street.

Seriously, ATAC's blends well with more than just dirt and is decent in urban environments. The hard edges of multicam don't seem to blend as well up close but then again, most of the test photo's I've seen are too close.

10/12/2011 9:52:01 PM EDT
[#18]
Kekeke, wait for November to see "ATACS FG"
10/13/2011 7:02:17 PM EDT
[#19]
Multicam is the more flexible and economical of the two at present in my opinion.
10/13/2011 7:10:01 PM EDT
[#20]
link fixed.    http://www.flickr.com/photos/60918869%40N03/
These photos are of/from paintballers, but they show how each looks side by side in the same environment in most of the photos. I see very little difference in the two.
10/13/2011 8:34:11 PM EDT
[#21]
Nice photo's. I would agree that there isn't much difference between the two in most environments. ATACS has a slight edge in the desert. The one thing that does scream out in the photo's is that even the smallest parts in black are a no go. It sticks out like a sore thumb.
10/14/2011 6:21:22 AM EDT
[#22]
In my opinion, if you are a die hard ARFCOM'er then you are required to buy both and post pics for us.  
10/14/2011 8:27:37 AM EDT
[#23]
Maybe it is just me, but looks like A-TACS blends in better..
10/15/2011 4:26:37 AM EDT
[#24]
Multicam, more supported and military taking over with its look all around the world that you will find more options for that pattern
10/15/2011 5:34:54 AM EDT
[#25]
A-TACS does have less sharpness to it.  The pattern of the Multicam is a bit more sharp and in my opinion just pattern vs. pattern I give ATACS about a full point of improvement.  Unfortunately the coloration of Multicam beats out A-TACS in terms of all season multi terrain advantage in my opinion.  

I mean A-TACS is coming out with a Forest Green and an Artic version so if you want to purchase three sets of camo and matching gear you can get total camo for all seasons and multi-terrain that IMO will be better than just Multicam. Otherwise, you can compromise and just get CB gear and swap out your clothing from ATACS DCU to FG to Artic like the USMC does with their MARPAT.

Everyone carriers Multicam, it's been out for years now, Crye IMO still has the best damn combat pants on the market, and you've got some MIL Surplus thanks to the Army adoption for OEF-Afghanistan. ATACS is just starting out and I'm highly impressed at the rate of adoption.

I guess it's personal preference, budget, and AO that are going to play the determinative factors. I like ATACS. I'm sticking with Multicam, but if I like what I see out of the ATACS-FG I might go that route.
10/17/2011 12:21:55 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Take pictures of your local terrain and post them.  Then maybe we can give some advice.


If you have watched nutnfancy videos, my terrain is exactly what is in his videos. He advocates multicam in the area's that we both live.
10/17/2011 6:29:23 PM EDT
[#27]
Has he done any reviews on A-TACS or even mentioned any products with the camouflage yet? I have seen a lot of his reviews, but nothing with the new camo yet.
10/18/2011 2:27:54 PM EDT
[#28]
Here's a side by side

10/18/2011 10:48:25 PM EDT
[#29]
Wow. That pic makes me like atacs WAY more. looks so much more subdued. Thanks for the post.
10/19/2011 2:09:06 AM EDT
[#30]
I vote A-TACS
10/19/2011 1:10:15 PM EDT
[#31]
I can't decide between the two. I'd be in a city environment with subdued woods. I can't decide which would be better for me. Any ideas? Definitely not a mountainous/rocky/dirt environment.
10/19/2011 1:11:20 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
I can't decide between the two. I'd be in a city environment with subdued woods. I can't decide which would be better for me. Any ideas? Definitely not a mountainous/rocky/dirt environment.


Multicam...

You really can't go wrong with it.

Woodland camo is another option.
10/19/2011 1:15:27 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I can't decide between the two. I'd be in a city environment with subdued woods. I can't decide which would be better for me. Any ideas? Definitely not a mountainous/rocky/dirt environment.


Multicam...

You really can't go wrong with it.

Woodland camo is another option.


That's the direction I was leaning towards. I was sort of holding out for the FG ATACS, but I like the pattern of MC.
10/19/2011 3:27:23 PM EDT
[#34]
I'm biased because my decision was to go with ATACS over multicam but it just seems more natural to me. MC has hard edges and looks man made. ATACS just as a more natural look to it. I like the way it blends into urban environments as well.
10/19/2011 3:40:24 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
I'm biased because my decision was to go with ATACS over multicam but it just seems more natural to me. MC has hard edges and looks man made. ATACS just as a more natural look to it. I like the way it blends into urban environments as well.


How does it blend in with woodland/forested areas?
10/19/2011 6:19:40 PM EDT
[#36]
A bunch of airsoft dudes, but that gives you an idea.




Like I said I vote A-tacs, and I have Multicam as well....
10/19/2011 6:39:01 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
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I'm biased because my decision was to go with ATACS over multicam but it just seems more natural to me. MC has hard edges and looks man made. ATACS just as a more natural look to it. I like the way it blends into urban environments as well.


How does it blend in with woodland/forested areas?


It depends on what type of woodland area and what time of year. Nothing works 100% to make you disappear... well that is, except for maybe this...

http://theshadowshield.com/videos.phtml
10/19/2011 7:25:09 PM EDT
[#38]
Looks like A-TACS is already getting cheaper. Predator bdu put up a bdu coat and pants for $45 each. The ACU I bought is $60 for each item.
10/20/2011 5:11:41 PM EDT
[#39]
Where is the best place to get ATACS gear? Such as LBE's, chest rigs, mag pouches.
10/20/2011 9:59:15 PM EDT
[#40]
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Where is the best place to get ATACS gear? Such as LBE's, chest rigs, mag pouches.


Tag is making a plate carrier in ATACS. Blue Force has their ten speed mag pouch in ATACS. Go to the ATACS website. They list all there manufacturers as they come on board there.
10/21/2011 3:50:20 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
Where is the best place to get ATACS gear? Such as LBE's, chest rigs, mag pouches.


there is a 3 page thread on this on page three of this fourm
10/21/2011 7:30:26 AM EDT
[#42]
Where to Buy - A-TACS Site
10/24/2011 2:34:53 AM EDT
[#43]
Here's some ATACS in Cleburne. Texas 10/22/2011.  Seems to be working pretty good in this environment,



10/24/2011 12:28:09 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Here's some ATACS in Cleburne. Texas 10/22/2011.  Seems to be working pretty good in this environment,

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g261/waffenmacht/WP_000129.jpg



Where did you get the holster?
10/24/2011 12:49:46 PM EDT
[#45]
Here's multicam in Florida



Works well enough
10/24/2011 3:18:43 PM EDT
[#46]
If you're out using it instead of putzing around it won't matter which you get as it will quickly acquire all of the dirt, mud, and grime from the environment anyway. There's a good picture floating around of a dude in trashcanistan wearing multicam. He might as well have been wearing straight khakis. Once you roll around a bit they'll both match your environment.
10/25/2011 3:46:34 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Here's some ATACS in Cleburne. Texas 10/22/2011.  Seems to be working pretty good in this environment,

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g261/waffenmacht/WP_000129.jpg



Where did you get the holster?


Just a Safariland

If you're out using it instead of putzing around it won't matter which you get as it will quickly acquire all of the dirt, mud, and grime from the environment anyway. There's a good picture floating around of a dude in trashcanistan wearing multicam. He might as well have been wearing straight khakis. Once you roll around a bit they'll both match your environment.

True, after a few consecutive days in the field, however for those first few days patterns/shades have more of an impact.
10/25/2011 12:13:44 PM EDT
[#48]
Is that Safariland ATACS? Where did you find it? What model is that?
10/25/2011 3:04:25 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
Here's some ATACS in Cleburne. Texas 10/22/2011.  Seems to be working pretty good in this environment,

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g261/waffenmacht/WP_000129.jpg



What color is the war belt and pouches you've got on?
10/26/2011 3:54:10 AM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Here's some ATACS in Cleburne. Texas 10/22/2011.  Seems to be working pretty good in this environment,

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g261/waffenmacht/WP_000129.jpg



What color is the war belt and pouches you've got on?


Pouches are Ranger Green.  The safariland is just spray-painted green and tan.
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