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Posted: 8/1/2007 8:16:58 AM EDT
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Ebay This person states they are from the US Army. How does that work? |
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They could have fallen off the back of a truck is one. Another is that sometimes a soldier who is getting out can't account for all his gear, so he has to pay for that which he doesn't have that he has to turn in. Then the item(s) turn up later. Since s/he paid for them, they are "his" or "hers". I have no idea if this applies to body armor or not, since I wasn't in the military. But several close friends who are/have been soldiers explained that the aforementioned process is one way that could happen. But, as far as I understand, they don't just "give" the armor/plates to soldiers to keep when they get out. Make of that whatever you want. TimW Phoenix |
Not Correct. Contrary to popular belief, signing a Statement of Charges does not permit you to keep the item. If you "lost" it and paid for it, and "find" it later, it is still government property. I don't recall there being any provision for a refund; the soldier is just SOL. The military will not usually make an issue out of small items like canteens or ponchos, since they can be legally purchased in the MCSS and it's therefore hard to prove their source. ESAPI plates do not fall into that category. My guess is they are stolen government property. Edited for clarity |
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George Thanks for clarifying that. I mentioned I didn't know if it applied to body armor...my guess was that it didn't, but I couldn't be sure. The guys I know who were/are in the military were talking about their deuce gear, etc., and I never asked about body armor since it was never a topic at those times. Thanks again. TimW Phoenix |
No problem, Tim. I understood that you realize that armor can't be legally obtained this way. My comments weren't directed solely at you. I was attempting to address the common misperception that "lost" government property can be converted to personal property simply by paying for it. I've seen others post this before. In the Army, at least, this is not possible. Paying for an item through Cash Collection or Statement of Charges does not mean you own it. It remains government property and must be turned in. |
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Unserviceable armor is supposed to be destroyed. (emphasis added). http://www.gao.gov/htext/d06981t.html
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Body armor is destroyed and not sold a surplus. There was a recent article on it on one of the major networks, never watched the story but they were complaining about a waste of money or something. Just because it says US doesn't mean it necessarily ever made it there. It could always be overrun. There are quite a few contractors for armor these days. Just because the buyer states its army issue, well it's Egay so. Most likely though, it's "missing" or stolen. |
A buddy of mine went to prison for selling body armor that had "fallen off the books" on ebay. Leave it alone. |
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