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| I`m looking to get a black one and fix it to mil spec (US mag tube, follower, handguards) and go back and add the telestock. Who`s had this done? Does the gun still work well afterwards? |
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I`m looking to get a black one and fix it to mil spec (US mag tube, follower, handguards) and go back and add the telestock. Who`s had this done? Does the gun still work well afterwards? I swear there needs to be a tacked thread talking about all of this. StrangerDanger, get to work! |
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As far as reliability goes, if you use quality parts and follow the instructions you should have no problems. ETA: This should help: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_1/367432_WTK___Benelli_M4_collapsible_stock_question____.html |
| Carriercomp all the way my friend and yes as far as the hammer they make the finest. I also have the sure M80 rail on the front of the gun as well the follower is also a (22R it counts as well. I also got the full length tube from him Christ the match is worth cutting off an arm for. no problems out of mines yet... can't say anything bad about Kips items every thing the man touch's turns to gold... |
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Do yourself a favor and buy four these parts for 922 compliance.
1. carriercomp titanium magazine tube 2. carriercomp magazine follower 3. carriercomp hammer 4. FFT trigger 5. FFT disconnector 6. FFT factory replacement handguards or a Surefire M80 rail system Assuming you have an 11707+ model, the collapsible stock will function without any additional modifications. |
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Do yourself a favor and buy four these parts for 922 compliance. 1. carriercomp titanium magazine tube 2. carriercomp magazine follower 3. carriercomp hammer 4. FFT trigger 5. FFT disconnector 6. FFT factory replacement handguards or a Surefire M80 rail system Assuming you have an 11707+ model, the collapsible stock will function without any additional modifications. NO 922 compliance parts, at all, are used on the H2O version. None. Every single part is manufactured in Italy. Instead, it is coated by Robar. One color complies with 922r as is, the other color (black) does not comply & requires thousands of $$$ in extra parts. Just buy the H20 version. |
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NO 922 compliance parts, at all, are used on the H2O version. None. Every single part is manufactured in Italy. Instead, it is coated by Robar. If true, then the "H2O" is not 922r-compliant. I've asked the question before what constitutes manufacture. Can they refinish the parts and say that they manufacturered them? |
| Alright guys I just brought home my brand spankin new M4. It has the notched buffer tube. I`m looking to get the CC mag tube n follower, FFT handguards... That`ll bring my parts count up to 3. Now I still want the telestock. Is there a US made pistol grip? If not what`s the best (fail safe) part to get? |
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Alright guys I just brought home my brand spankin new M4. It has the notched buffer tube. I`m looking to get the CC mag tube n follower, FFT handguards... That`ll bring my parts count up to 3. Now I still want the telestock. Is there a US made pistol grip? If not what`s the best (fail safe) part to get? I'm in your boat too. I just ordered the Giesselle trigger *hammer today. (I have a FFT handguard and follower with a Daves Metal works tube/spring). ETA meant hammer, not trigger. |
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Alright guys I just brought home my brand spankin new M4. It has the notched buffer tube. I`m looking to get the CC mag tube n follower, FFT handguards... That`ll bring my parts count up to 3. Now I still want the telestock. Is there a US made pistol grip? If not what`s the best (fail safe) part to get? I'm in your boat too. I just ordered the Giesselle trigger today. (I have a FFT handguard and follower with a Daves Metal works tube/spring). I just bought the Giesselle hammer. Cheaper than replacing the whole trigger, its a drop in so no gun smithing necessary and adds another 922 part, which may be what Bhart89 means since I haven't seen the entire trigger offered but I think it was at one point |
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NO 922 compliance parts, at all, are used on the H2O version. None. Every single part is manufactured in Italy. Instead, it is coated by Robar. If true, then the "H2O" is not 922r-compliant. Please explain how. Specifically, how are they able to sell the H20 version made with 100% Imported Italian parts? http://www.benelliusa.com/zoom.php?z=silo_4000_m4_12_h20_telescoping_defense.jpg |
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NO 922 compliance parts, at all, are used on the H2O version. None. Every single part is manufactured in Italy. Instead, it is coated by Robar. If true, then the "H2O" is not 922r-compliant. Please explain how. Specifically, how are they able to sell the H20 version made with 100% Imported Italian parts? http://www.benelliusa.com/zoom.php?z=silo_4000_m4_12_h20_telescoping_defense.jpg Look at my post here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_1/367229_Benelli_M4_question.html&page=1#i3371835 |
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NO 922 compliance parts, at all, are used on the H2O version. None. Every single part is manufactured in Italy. Instead, it is coated by Robar. If true, then the "H2O" is not 922r-compliant. Please explain how. Specifically, how are they able to sell the H20 version made with 100% Imported Italian parts? http://www.benelliusa.com/zoom.php?z=silo_4000_m4_12_h20_telescoping_defense.jpg |
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I have been putting off calling my Benelli rep to ask him what the deal was with the H20 but I called him today and asked him. I then called Benelli direct and asked them to make sure what I was told was solid. The Benelli M4 H20 is imported as a full firearm into the United States. It is then disassembled at their warranty repair service station, sent off to Robar to have the NP3 coating done, and then reassembled. The reason why this does not have to have 922r compliance is because by having Robar NP3 coat it, it becomes 'Modified' and that satisfies the requirement of the ATF and Customs. Everyone tracking?  Thank you. FINALLY someone else confirms what Benelli reps were saying at SHOT. There is a little more to the story here (and a reason you can't spray paint a gun in your garage to get around 922r): About 3 or 4 years ago, our alphabet friends went after many licenesed (FFL) gunsmiths. They argued that by adding sights, changing hammers, etc, the gunsmiths were "manufacturing" a new gun and had to pay the excise tax for manufacturing. Apparently, ROBAR was threatened & started paying up. Apparently, Benelli figured out: if ROBAR treatment constitutes "manufacturing," then the "manufacture" happened here and the gun is now "U.S. made." Hence, 922 not applicable. However, unless YOU are a licensed "manufacturer" like ROBAR, YOU cannot get around 922 this way as far as I can tell. Still, there are possibilities here. Imagine ANY foreign-made assault rifle now banned from import: if you can get it into the U.S. for LE sales, and then have it ROBAR'ED, it could be sold to civilians. Trick is getting the importers to play ball. And tolerating "pimped" silver colored imports & the cost to do so. This is essentially a clever turning of the stupidity of a bureaucracy on its ear. ATF classified ROBAR's SG finishing & modding service as "manufacturing", apparently for the intended purpose of collecting tax $$$. So, since a professional breakdown + refinishing service is now de facto "manufacturing" (again, per ATF), can anyone send off their M4 to ROBAR (or whoever) to have this done & then reassembled in a legal "evil" config, or is this maneuver restricted to importers, prior to commercial sale? |
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I have been putting off calling my Benelli rep to ask him what the deal was with the H20 but I called him today and asked him. I then called Benelli direct and asked them to make sure what I was told was solid. The Benelli M4 H20 is imported as a full firearm into the United States. It is then disassembled at their warranty repair service station, sent off to Robar to have the NP3 coating done, and then reassembled. The reason why this does not have to have 922r compliance is because by having Robar NP3 coat it, it becomes 'Modified' and that satisfies the requirement of the ATF and Customs. Everyone tracking? Thank you. FINALLY someone else confirms what Benelli reps were saying at SHOT. There is a little more to the story here (and a reason you can't spray paint a gun in your garage to get around 922r): About 3 or 4 years ago, our alphabet friends went after many licenesed (FFL) gunsmiths. They argued that by adding sights, changing hammers, etc, the gunsmiths were "manufacturing" a new gun and had to pay the excise tax for manufacturing. Apparently, ROBAR was threatened & started paying up. Apparently, Benelli figured out: if ROBAR treatment constitutes "manufacturing," then the "manufacture" happened here and the gun is now "U.S. made." Hence, 922 not applicable. However, unless YOU are a licensed "manufacturer" like ROBAR, YOU cannot get around 922 this way as far as I can tell. Still, there are possibilities here. Imagine ANY foreign-made assault rifle now banned from import: if you can get it into the U.S. for LE sales, and then have it ROBAR'ED, it could be sold to civilians. Trick is getting the importers to play ball. And tolerating "pimped" silver colored imports & the cost to do so. This is essentially a clever turning of the stupidity of a bureaucracy on its ear. ATF classified ROBAR's SG finishing & modding service as "manufacturing", apparently for the intended purpose of collecting tax $$$. So, since a professional breakdown + refinishing service is now de facto "manufacturing" (again, per ATF), can anyone send off their M4 to ROBAR (or whoever) to have this done & then reassembled in a legal "evil" config, or is this maneuver restricted to importers, prior to commercial sale? And while were at it, can we clarify if 922(R) even applies to end users or just importers? |
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My understanding is that 922 no longer applies to shotguns as they have been exempted from having to comply with any "Sporting Provisions" for import. ETA: My statement above was based on numerous posts on various forums and the NRA statement below. Twelve Big Wins for Gun Owners Friday, November 18, 2011 The final conference report on the combined Fiscal Year 2012 Agriculture, Commerce/Justice/Science (CJS) and Transportation/Housing/Urban Development (THUD) Appropriations bills—also known as the "Mini-Bus,” was passed by both the U.S. House and the U.S. Senate, and has been signed into law. One of the most important ways that Congress has protected the Second Amendment is through a number of general provisions included in various appropriations bills. Many of these provisions have been included in the bills for many years—some of the provisions go back almost three decades. This conference report is no exception, as it contains 12 provisions that strengthen the Second Amendment and protect the American people. Specifically, the conference report makes PERMANENT the following protections: Firearms Database/National Gun Registry Prohibition. No funds may be used to create, maintain or administer a database of firearms owners or their firearms. This prohibition has been in place since Fiscal Year 1979, and prevents the federal government from establishing a national gun registry. Former Firearms Dealers Information Retrieval Prohibition. No funds may be used to electronically retrieve personally identifying information gathered by federal firearms licensees. The provision prohibits the creation of a gun registry from dealers’ records that are required by law to be surrendered to the federal government when a dealer goes out of business. This provision has been included since FY 1997. Information Gathering Prohibition/24-Hour Destruction of Records. A prohibition on the use of funds to retain any information gathered as a part of an approved instant background check for more than 24 hours. This provision protects the privacy of law-abiding gun buyers by prohibiting gun buyers’ personal information about legal gun purchases from being retained by government authorities for more than 24 hours after a firearm background check. It has been included since FY 1999. In addition, the conference report adds two NEW provisions designed to bolster our gun rights and protect the Second Amendment from unelected bureaucrats who would twist the law to facilitate their gun-control agenda. Prohibit Funding for "Gun Walking” Operations. No funds may be used to knowingly transfer firearms to agents of drug cartels unless U.S. law enforcement personnel control or monitor the firearms at all time. This amendment is designed to prevent the Justice Department (or any government entity) from spending taxpayer dollars on "gun walking” programs like Operation Fast and Furious. Shotgun Importation Protections. Prohibits the Department of Justice from requiring imported shotguns to meet a "sporting purposes” test that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) has used to prohibit the importation of shotguns with one or more features disliked by the Agency, such as adjustable stocks, extended magazine tubes, etc. Finally, the conference report RETAINS the following provisions: Curio and Relic Definition. A prohibition on the use of funds to change the definition of a "curio or relic.” This provision protects the status of collectible firearms for future generations of firearms collectors. Physical Inventory Prohibition. Prohibition on a requirement to allow a physical inventory of Federal Firearms Licensees. The Clinton Administration proposed a rule in 2000 to require an annual inventory by all licensees. While the Bush Administration eventually withdrew the proposal, Congress has still passed this preventive provision every year since FY 2007. Business Activity. A prohibition on the use of funds to deny a Federal Firearms License (FFL) or renewal of an FFL on the basis of low business activity. This provision prohibits BATFE from denying federal firearms license applications or renewals based on a dealer’s low business volume alone. Firearms Trace Data Disclaimer. A requirement that any trace data released must include a disclaimer stating such trace data cannot be used to draw broad conclusion about firearms-related crime. Firearms Parts Export to Canada. A prohibition on the use of funds to require an export license for small firearms parts valued at less than $500 for export to Canada. This provision removed an unnecessary and burdensome requirement on U.S. gun manufacturers that was imposed under the Clinton Administration. Importation of Curios and Relics. A prohibition on the use of funds to arbitrarily deny importation of qualifying curio and relic firearms. This provision ensures that collectible firearms that meet all legal requirements for importation into the United States are not prevented from import by executive branch fiat. Transfer of BATFE Authority. A prohibition on the use of funds to transfer any duty or responsibility of the BATFE to any other agency or department. This provision was written in response to a Clinton Administration plan to transfer firearms enforcement to the FBI or Secret Service. It also prohibits the Executive branch from skirting the will of Congress by allowing another agency to implement policies the BATFE is prohibited from implementing. Copyright 2011, National Rifle Association of America, Institute for Legislative Action. 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My understanding is that 922 no longer applies to shotguns as they have been exempted from having to comply with any "Sporting Provisions" for import. ETA: My statement above was based on numerous posts on various forums and the NRA statement below. Friday, November 18, 2011 ... Shotgun Importation Protections. Prohibits the Department of Justice from requiring imported shotguns to meet a "sporting purposes” test that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) has used to prohibit the importation of shotguns with one or more features disliked by the Agency, such as adjustable stocks, extended magazine tubes, etc. Copyright 2011, National Rifle Association of America, Institute for Legislative Action. This may be reproduced. It may not be reproduced for commercial purposes. 11250 Waples Mill Road, Fairfax, VA 22030 800-392-8683 Contact Us | Privacy & Security Policy This passed ~6 mos ago? If true, then it begs why Benelli would go to the extra trouble WRT the H2O model if they don't actually need to, & why ATF continues issuing decrees concerning 922r parts-count compliance in relation to tech branch ruling regarding the "sporting purposes" clause. |
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I have been putting off calling my Benelli rep to ask him what the deal was with the H20 but I called him today and asked him. I then called Benelli direct and asked them to make sure what I was told was solid. The Benelli M4 H20 is imported as a full firearm into the United States. It is then disassembled at their warranty repair service station, sent off to Robar to have the NP3 coating done, and then reassembled. The reason why this does not have to have 922r compliance is because by having Robar NP3 coat it, it becomes 'Modified' and that satisfies the requirement of the ATF and Customs. Everyone tracking? Thank you. FINALLY someone else confirms what Benelli reps were saying at SHOT. There is a little more to the story here (and a reason you can't spray paint a gun in your garage to get around 922r): About 3 or 4 years ago, our alphabet friends went after many licenesed (FFL) gunsmiths. They argued that by adding sights, changing hammers, etc, the gunsmiths were "manufacturing" a new gun and had to pay the excise tax for manufacturing. Apparently, ROBAR was threatened & started paying up. Apparently, Benelli figured out: if ROBAR treatment constitutes "manufacturing," then the "manufacture" happened here and the gun is now "U.S. made." Hence, 922 not applicable. However, unless YOU are a licensed "manufacturer" like ROBAR, YOU cannot get around 922 this way as far as I can tell. Still, there are possibilities here. Imagine ANY foreign-made assault rifle now banned from import: if you can get it into the U.S. for LE sales, and then have it ROBAR'ED, it could be sold to civilians. Trick is getting the importers to play ball. And tolerating "pimped" silver colored imports & the cost to do so. This is essentially a clever turning of the stupidity of a bureaucracy on its ear. ATF classified ROBAR's SG finishing & modding service as "manufacturing", apparently for the intended purpose of collecting tax $$$. So, since a professional breakdown + refinishing service is now de facto "manufacturing" (again, per ATF), can anyone send off their M4 to ROBAR (or whoever) to have this done & then reassembled in a legal "evil" config, or is this maneuver restricted to importers, prior to commercial sale? Thing is, IIRC ATF went back and changed their mind on the decision to classify refinishing services as "manufacturing" in order to avoid the massive legal nightmare they created for themselves. If the current legal claim is that refinishing = manufacturing, then they'd have to go back to treating refinishing companies like Robar as manufacturers who are thus liable for Firearms Excise Tax and all that jazz. If refinishing DOES equal manufacturing, then I'm still having a very hard time finding a legal angle preventing an individual non-FFL from using the same procedure to produce a "US-manufactured" firearm by busting out a can of Krylon. Anyone can manufacture any Title 1 firearm at any time for their own personal use sans FFL, FET, or any further federal regulation. At this point 922(r) is such a ludicrous joke that there's no possible way to tell whether you're in compliance other than buying a lawyer and having them fly up to Tech Branch with your firearm in hand asking "Can you let me own this now?" An entire industry of domestic parts production exists to salve the fears of legal liability from a law that's never apparently actually seen the inside of a courtroom. |
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I have been putting off calling my Benelli rep to ask him what the deal was with the H20 but I called him today and asked him. I then called Benelli direct and asked them to make sure what I was told was solid. The Benelli M4 H20 is imported as a full firearm into the United States. It is then disassembled at their warranty repair service station, sent off to Robar to have the NP3 coating done, and then reassembled. The reason why this does not have to have 922r compliance is because by having Robar NP3 coat it, it becomes 'Modified' and that satisfies the requirement of the ATF and Customs. Everyone tracking? Thank you. FINALLY someone else confirms what Benelli reps were saying at SHOT. There is a little more to the story here (and a reason you can't spray paint a gun in your garage to get around 922r): About 3 or 4 years ago, our alphabet friends went after many licenesed (FFL) gunsmiths. They argued that by adding sights, changing hammers, etc, the gunsmiths were "manufacturing" a new gun and had to pay the excise tax for manufacturing. Apparently, ROBAR was threatened & started paying up. Apparently, Benelli figured out: if ROBAR treatment constitutes "manufacturing," then the "manufacture" happened here and the gun is now "U.S. made." Hence, 922 not applicable. However, unless YOU are a licensed "manufacturer" like ROBAR, YOU cannot get around 922 this way as far as I can tell. Still, there are possibilities here. Imagine ANY foreign-made assault rifle now banned from import: if you can get it into the U.S. for LE sales, and then have it ROBAR'ED, it could be sold to civilians. Trick is getting the importers to play ball. And tolerating "pimped" silver colored imports & the cost to do so. This is essentially a clever turning of the stupidity of a bureaucracy on its ear. ATF classified ROBAR's SG finishing & modding service as "manufacturing", apparently for the intended purpose of collecting tax $$$. So, since a professional breakdown + refinishing service is now de facto "manufacturing" (again, per ATF), can anyone send off their M4 to ROBAR (or whoever) to have this done & then reassembled in a legal "evil" config, or is this maneuver restricted to importers, prior to commercial sale? Thing is, IIRC ATF went back and changed their mind on the decision to classify refinishing services as "manufacturing" in order to avoid the massive legal nightmare they created for themselves. If the current legal claim is that refinishing = manufacturing, then they'd have to go back to treating refinishing companies like Robar as manufacturers who are thus liable for Firearms Excise Tax and all that jazz. If refinishing DOES equal manufacturing, then I'm still having a very hard time finding a legal angle preventing an individual non-FFL from using the same procedure to produce a "US-manufactured" firearm by busting out a can of Krylon. Anyone can manufacture any Title 1 firearm at any time for their own personal use sans FFL, FET, or any further federal regulation. At this point 922(r) is such a ludicrous joke that there's no possible way to tell whether you're in compliance other than buying a lawyer and having them fly up to Tech Branch with your firearm in hand asking "Can you let me own this now?" An entire industry of domestic parts production exists to salve the fears of legal liability from a law that's never apparently actually seen the inside of a courtroom. Can you post a link to the change you mentioned? As of this afternoon, it does not appear that they have changed their postion. Check out #12: http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/manufacturers.html#dealer-gunsmithing |
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I have been putting off calling my Benelli rep to ask him what the deal was with the H20 but I called him today and asked him. I then called Benelli direct and asked them to make sure what I was told was solid. The Benelli M4 H20 is imported as a full firearm into the United States. It is then disassembled at their warranty repair service station, sent off to Robar to have the NP3 coating done, and then reassembled. The reason why this does not have to have 922r compliance is because by having Robar NP3 coat it, it becomes 'Modified' and that satisfies the requirement of the ATF and Customs. Everyone tracking? Thank you. FINALLY someone else confirms what Benelli reps were saying at SHOT. There is a little more to the story here (and a reason you can't spray paint a gun in your garage to get around 922r): About 3 or 4 years ago, our alphabet friends went after many licenesed (FFL) gunsmiths. They argued that by adding sights, changing hammers, etc, the gunsmiths were "manufacturing" a new gun and had to pay the excise tax for manufacturing. Apparently, ROBAR was threatened & started paying up. Apparently, Benelli figured out: if ROBAR treatment constitutes "manufacturing," then the "manufacture" happened here and the gun is now "U.S. made." Hence, 922 not applicable. However, unless YOU are a licensed "manufacturer" like ROBAR, YOU cannot get around 922 this way as far as I can tell. Still, there are possibilities here. Imagine ANY foreign-made assault rifle now banned from import: if you can get it into the U.S. for LE sales, and then have it ROBAR'ED, it could be sold to civilians. Trick is getting the importers to play ball. And tolerating "pimped" silver colored imports & the cost to do so. This is essentially a clever turning of the stupidity of a bureaucracy on its ear. ATF classified ROBAR's SG finishing & modding service as "manufacturing", apparently for the intended purpose of collecting tax $$$. So, since a professional breakdown + refinishing service is now de facto "manufacturing" (again, per ATF), can anyone send off their M4 to ROBAR (or whoever) to have this done & then reassembled in a legal "evil" config, or is this maneuver restricted to importers, prior to commercial sale? Thing is, IIRC ATF went back and changed their mind on the decision to classify refinishing services as "manufacturing" in order to avoid the massive legal nightmare they created for themselves. If the current legal claim is that refinishing = manufacturing, then they'd have to go back to treating refinishing companies like Robar as manufacturers who are thus liable for Firearms Excise Tax and all that jazz. If refinishing DOES equal manufacturing, then I'm still having a very hard time finding a legal angle preventing an individual non-FFL from using the same procedure to produce a "US-manufactured" firearm by busting out a can of Krylon. Anyone can manufacture any Title 1 firearm at any time for their own personal use sans FFL, FET, or any further federal regulation. At this point 922(r) is such a ludicrous joke that there's no possible way to tell whether you're in compliance other than buying a lawyer and having them fly up to Tech Branch with your firearm in hand asking "Can you let me own this now?" An entire industry of domestic parts production exists to salve the fears of legal liability from a law that's never apparently actually seen the inside of a courtroom. Can you post a link to the change you mentioned? As of this afternoon, it does not appear that they have changed their postion. Check out #12: http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/manufacturers.html#dealer-gunsmithing I seem to recall it being featured in the legal column of SAR some time last year, but I could be mistaken. |
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A stock benelli m4 is only 4+1.that's a bit disappointing for me at 2 grand. Luckily they go for around $1600. Mag-tube, follower, spring are only $190 more. ehhh..still disappointing to me. Do you guys know if the military runs it stock or with the added spring and follower. Also with the spring mod it goes up to 6+1?? correct me if i am wrong |
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A stock benelli m4 is only 4+1.that's a bit disappointing for me at 2 grand. Luckily they go for around $1600. Mag-tube, follower, spring are only $190 more. ehhh..still disappointing to me. Do you guys know if the military runs it stock or with the added spring and follower. Also with the spring mod it goes up to 6+1?? correct me if i am wrong Stock it has a 7-shot mag-tube. You are buying a neutered 922r import version, and need to do the work yourself. Aftermarket 7-shot tubes are better in every way than OEM 7-shot tubes. Claim disappointing all you want, I can find a feature that would be appreciated that has been left off of every product known to man, at any price-point. The facts are that you won't find a better combat shotgun in semi-auto regardless. Can you even own a 7-shot magazine-equipped (holds 9 rounds total) semi-auto shotgun with a pistol-grip in California? |
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A stock benelli m4 is only 4+1.that's a bit disappointing for me at 2 grand. Luckily they go for around $1600. Mag-tube, follower, spring are only $190 more. ehhh..still disappointing to me. Do you guys know if the military runs it stock or with the added spring and follower. Also with the spring mod it goes up to 6+1?? correct me if i am wrong Stock it has a 7-shot mag-tube. You are buying a neutered 922r import version, and need to do the work yourself. Aftermarket 7-shot tubes are better in every way than OEM 7-shot tubes. Claim disappointing all you want, I can find a feature that would be appreciated that has been left off of every product known to man, at any price-point. The facts are that you won't find a better combat shotgun in semi-auto regardless. Can you even own a 7-shot magazine-equipped (holds 9 rounds total) semi-auto shotgun with a pistol-grip in California? I can own a 6 or 7 shot i forget the capacity mossy 500 with pistol grip in california. this is where i got my info about the benelli m4, today was my first day ever reading about one so when i read 4+1 for the 18.5 version i was like wtf no way. http://www.benelliusa.com/shotguns/benelli-m4.php edit:looks like i can own a 7 shot benelli m4 in cali but with a fixed stock https://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=5781327 post a pic of your benelli m4 if you don't mind its a nice shotgun and i was disappointed about the 4+1, but since you can mod it i feel better about buying one in the future |
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Alright guys I just brought home my brand spankin new M4. It has the notched buffer tube. I`m looking to get the CC mag tube n follower, FFT handguards... That`ll bring my parts count up to 3. Now I still want the telestock. Is there a US made pistol grip? If not what`s the best (fail safe) part to get? hey op.post pics please |
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Here's mine. Just got my Giesselle Hammer. DMW Tube and Spring, FFT handguards and follower. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e314/bhart8911/Benellim4a.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e314/bhart8911/Benellim4.jpg so how much did it cost you to modify the m4 mag tube?? nice shotgun btw |
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Here's mine. Just got my Giesselle Hammer. DMW Tube and Spring, FFT handguards and follower. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e314/bhart8911/Benellim4a.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e314/bhart8911/Benellim4.jpg so how much did it cost you to modify the m4 mag tube?? nice shotgun btw $1525 for the M4 $80 for DMW tube/spring $125 for FFT handguards, follower and charging handle $320 for M4 stock $81 for Giellelle hammer (and a t-shrt) Not having my M4 look this: Priceless.... 
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Here's mine. Just got my Giesselle Hammer. DMW Tube and Spring, FFT handguards and follower. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e314/bhart8911/Benellim4a.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e314/bhart8911/Benellim4.jpg so how much did it cost you to modify the m4 mag tube?? nice shotgun btw $1525 for the M4 $80 for DMW tube/spring $125 for FFT handguards, follower and charging handle $320 for M4 stock $81 for Giellelle hammer (and a t-shrt) Not having my M4 look this: Priceless.... http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e314/bhart8911/FNSLPandBenelliM4.jpg thanks for the reply bhart |
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Here's a great price on the M4 stock auction.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=282880357 |
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Here's a great price on the M4 stock auction. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=282880357 Whoever bought this, please PM me. |
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