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Posted: 3/3/2010 9:44:58 AM EDT
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I have 2 1100's. They both operate differently and I'm trying to figure out why.
The newer 1100 is simple- you pull the trigger, and it fires, ejects the empty, and chambers the next round. Simple enough. The older one (60's vintage) is different. You pull the trigger, it fires, ejects the empty, and sits there action open with a shell in the carrier. Next, you depress the carrier release, it chambers the round, and is ready to fire again. Why does the older one do that? Is it broken? If it is, what is broken? TIA |
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Yes, something is wrong with the older gun.
Start with a good cleaning and lubing of the whole gun, especially the trigger group, magazine tube and the action spring & tube (inside the stock). If that doesn’t fix things then the next step is to replace the magazine spring and follower. The 1100 relies on the shell coming out of the tube under pressure to function the bolt release. A weak magazine spring or sticking follower can slow that shell and hang up the action |
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Take both trigger groups out of the guns. Examine the carrier parts for any differences. Specifically parts 28 and 33 on this schematic:
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=0/sid=102/schematicsdetail/1100_Special_Field You may be able to see what parts are not working as they should on the malfunctioning gun. |
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Take both trigger groups out of the guns. Examine the carrier parts for any differences. Specifically parts 28 and 33 on this schematic: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=0/sid=102/schematicsdetail/1100_Special_Field You may be able to see what parts are not working as they should on the malfunctioning gun. Will do! Thank you! Tuesday will probably be the day. |
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I have 2 1100's. They both operate differently and I'm trying to figure out why. The newer 1100 is simple- you pull the trigger, and it fires, ejects the empty, and chambers the next round. Simple enough. The older one (60's vintage) is different. You pull the trigger, it fires, ejects the empty, and sits there action open with a shell in the carrier. Next, you depress the carrier release, it chambers the round, and is ready to fire again. Why does the older one do that? Is it broken? If it is, what is broken? TIA You have a magazine and/or shell latch related problem. It can be as simple as a kink in the magazine tube spring - often a problem with the black plastic cup followers from the 1970s and 80s (the 60s guns used a steel, beveled follower that never jammed) This problem is fixed by the aftermarket mushroom head shaped followers such as made by Choate Industries (has a stem that keeps the last inch of spring straight and prevents binding. Or you have a bent or warped feed latch that is dragging on the shell slowing it down enough to fail to trip the carrier release - or you have a bent or warped carrier release in the trigger group. Sometimes they can be straightened carefully with a needle nose pliers, and often it's best to replace the part. Because your problem is the shell coming out onto the carrier but not tripping the latch to feed - I would suspect the carrier latch. The other problems usually result in the action opening and the shell never making it out of the magazine tube onto the carrier; although I have seen those conditions cause drag to prevent the shell from loading |
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Because your problem is the shell coming out onto the carrier but not tripping the latch to feed - I would suspect the carrier latch. The other problems usually result in the action opening and the shell never making it out of the magazine tube onto the carrier; although I have seen those conditions cause drag to prevent the shell from loading Okay, the "carrier latch" has been replaced. The problem remains. What next? |
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