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Posted: 1/5/2006 7:48:15 PM EDT
I've never had a gun before and a cheap shotgun is my only option, Im looking for something tactical like the 870 MCS or a Benelli M3.....The 870 MCS looks perfect but i dont know much about the details of guns....I only plan on using this at a range, but i love guns (like you guyshe What do you guys think? Is the 870 worth my money?
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 7:48:46 PM EDT
hell yes
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 7:54:39 PM EDT
....well wheres my best bet to get one...i dont think i have a supplier near.
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 7:55:35 PM EDT
you cant buy a mcs, but you can have one made, just chop the barrel buy the forgrip and have a gunsmith put a rail on the reciever
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 8:02:58 PM EDT
ok so i can just get a 870 and purchase the tactical stock?...And thats basicly the same thing except for all the conversions....right?
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 8:15:19 PM EDT
yeah I've done up 2 tactical shotguns so far the stock i used was a little pricy but i didnt want to have to have the reciever taped so i got a Mesa Tactical High tube adaptor but i love it and it came with a top rail and i did a custom front grip for my other 870 myself
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 8:19:39 PM EDT
That sounds really nice....I guess im only worried about the stock right now and knowing that i can simply buy it and put it on really helps. So where can i get a Rem 870? Internet?
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 5:07:53 AM EDT
Wal-Mart sells them. Gander Mountain, Dick's etc. Just about every guns shop I have been in has used ones as well as as assortment of barrels.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 6:17:04 AM EDT
the MCS is a SBS
you need to get the licence to own one
unless you make a similar version
Get the 870 Pmax
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 1:45:12 PM EDT
Ok so i took a look at wal-mart and i think my best bet is the Remington 870 Express Synthetic Deer Gun 12/20..... Sound good?
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 2:22:59 AM EDT
The Deer Gun has a Rifled barrel on it... it would be just fine if you wanted to shoot only slugs but have a look at the tacked thread up above in reguards to shot in a rifled barrel...

If i where in your shoes i would pick up a 870 Police Mag if you had the money for it or a 870 Express H.D. and work from there..

the 870 is deffently the king of shotguns you will be very happy with it.. but take it from someone whos been there make sure you buy one with the barrel you want on it allready..

Being in WA look for Sportsmans Wherehouse or GI Joes. GI Joes Charges way to much but thats where i bought my first shotgun.. SW is likely to have the best price's on New firearms. but if your willing to go used theres alot better deals to be had out there..

if you can hit up a gun show and look around theres always a crapload of 870s floating around.. hell the other day i saw a mint shape wingmaster for 250..

Jess
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 5:16:02 PM EDT
Well i dont want to go over $300...i dont have a job (im only 16) and so i think $300 will take me long enough....ill take a look around for a sportsman wherehouse....thx
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 7:36:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/7/2006 7:42:33 PM EDT by StealthyBlagga]
I just got a Remington 870 Express HD for $270 at Sportsmans Warehouse. 6+1 capacity, smooth pump action and rock solid build quality (way better than Mossberg). Its the bottom one in the photo below:



I've been very happy with it - the only mod I recomend is to replace the factory mag spring, which is on the weak side, with a Wolff extra power spring ($5). I also added a sidesaddle, but this requires a bit of Dremel work on the forend. If you want to add a pistol grip stock, I recommend the Choat version, which I have on my 1187:

Link Posted: 1/7/2006 10:47:08 PM EDT
yah its about 300 at wal mart.......the closest sportsmans werehouse it like 100 miles away and doesnt open for another 3 months....LOL so yah.....Thanks blagga...that really helps me alot
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 11:46:14 PM EDT
Well if 300 is your budget i would eather grab that one *not a bad price at all* or a Mossberg 500 if your willing to drop down a small notch in quality. the mossbergs are cheap (as in barrels and parts) and are easy to SBS if you ever want to go that route.

thinking back on it i almost wish i had gotten a Mossberg instead of my 870 becuse of how cheap it is to do anything to it.

Jess
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 10:58:29 AM EDT
Here are some photos showing how to modify the forend for a sidesaddle:





Link Posted: 1/8/2006 11:56:31 AM EDT
how much cheaper are we talking here? and can i change out the rear with one of these types?

http://www.brownells.com/Images/Products/159000002a.jpg
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 9:25:36 PM EDT
On the same website a Mossberg 500 around 250 where as the remmington was around 300

but the thing where you get cheaper for the most part is if you want to change out barrels and mag tubes..

and there are pretty much the same stock for eatch shotgun as they are both very clouse competiors
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 11:17:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By StealthyBlagga:
Here are some photos showing how to modify the forend for a sidesaddle:

www.hunt101.com/img/363169.JPG

www.hunt101.com/img/363167.JPG

www.hunt101.com/img/363171.JPG



nice work but what did you use to clean up the raw edge of the cut to make it look like it was factory?
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:51:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Visable-assassin:

Originally Posted By StealthyBlagga:
Here are some photos showing how to modify the forend for a sidesaddle:

www.hunt101.com/img/363169.JPG

www.hunt101.com/img/363167.JPG

www.hunt101.com/img/363171.JPG



nice work but what did you use to clean up the raw edge of the cut to make it look like it was factory?



Ah, now there is a tale... if you beg, I'll tell you .
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:54:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PitfireX:
how much cheaper are we talking here? and can i change out the rear with one of these types?

www.brownells.com/Images/Products/159000002a.jpg



Yes, very easy drop-in replacement (remove the buttplate, indo bolt, replace stock, reverse for assembly). You could then sell the factory stock on the EE. Looks great on a Rem 870. Fits a Mossberg too, but looks crap due to the trigger guard being located too far forwards (plus you can't operate the Mossy safety easily with a pistol grip). Stick with the 870.
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 6:14:46 AM EDT
I very much recommend the Remington 870 pump shotgun, a great, classic dependaple shotgun. If you want to save some money, do not overlook used 870's. I got a great deal recently at a local pawn shop, I bought a used Remington 870 older style blue finish riot shotgun, 18" bbl, and a Remington top folding pistol grip stock for 130.00 out the door. If you find what you want, do not be afraiid to make a cash offer, they just might take it, or come back with a counter offer. Gun shows are another source for guns and accessories like barrels, stocks, etc. Watch the aisles at gun shows for individuals that have guns and accessories for sale, aisle sales are a great source for guns and accessories, just be very sure of what you want, look the item over carefully and have the cash ready. Knowledge is power and the more you know about what you are interested in the better. I am glad to see young people getting involved in guns and shooting, please remember that
safety is first, and enjoy your guns and shooting!
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 10:12:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By StealthyBlagga:

Originally Posted By Visable-assassin:

Originally Posted By StealthyBlagga:
Here are some photos showing how to modify the forend for a sidesaddle:

www.hunt101.com/img/363169.JPG

www.hunt101.com/img/363167.JPG

www.hunt101.com/img/363171.JPG



nice work but what did you use to clean up the raw edge of the cut to make it look like it was factory?



Ah, now there is a tale... if you beg, I'll tell you hr



I wont beg..so how about you just tell
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 2:54:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Visable-assassin:
I wont beg..so how about you just tell



Thats not very gratifying .

I'll write it up in a seperate thread and link it here. Watch this space.
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 3:53:15 PM EDT
OK, instructions for modifying the forend are here.
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