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4/10/2005 6:02:40 PM EDT
Just weighed my trigger on a new 870 Police and it breaks at #7 1/2 pounds. Very creepy pull and not condusive to good accuracy. Any websites or info on ways to smooth it up?
4/10/2005 8:37:46 PM EDT
[#1]
well today i just took some polish and a dremal to my trigger group.. i honestly dident notice that big of a differnce but i was told to try it..

where i did notice a differnce was on the slide rails it made that slide silky smooth..

i want to lighten the trigger pull on my 870 as well.. i can think of a coupple of ways to do it but messing with it is a little on the hairy side..  if someone could derect me to a spring kit. and perhaps a hammer and seer replacement that would be great..

i am about to buy a tirgger group and start grinding and cuting to try and soften the pull and just run some tests..

Jess
4/10/2005 9:14:28 PM EDT
[#2]
Get a standard or lightweight sear spring from Brownells.  The 870P spring is a 7 lb spring.  Standard spring is 4-5 lbs.
4/11/2005 10:53:57 AM EDT
[#3]
really?? i have an express so that means i have a 4-5 lbs spring??

damnit i want to drop that to like 2..
4/11/2005 8:00:36 PM EDT
[#4]
Get a Sear Spring, Light Pull, from Brownells.  Stock # 767-000-715 for $7.53.  If that does not do it, have someone who knows what they are doing polish the sear and hammer engagement surfaces.  Probably not much you can do about creep on an 870 trigger, though.
4/12/2005 7:36:57 AM EDT
[#5]
Thanks guys. I looked it up in Brownells catalog last night. They list the Police sear spring and the Express sear spring. I also read the sticky attatchment on the differences between the two versions of these shotguns posted at the top of this forum. Looks like Remington puts that 7 pounder in the police guns as some sort of liability protection? Yes/No?
4/12/2005 7:32:17 PM EDT
[#6]
There was a lawsuit back in the '70s.  A policeman's widow tried to sue Remington after another policeman accidentally shot her husband in the back with an 870P while exiting a cruiser.  I think the 7lb spring is related to that incident.  Google 870P and you'll find it.  Might take a while, but it is there.
4/14/2005 10:30:57 PM EDT
[#7]
As to the heavier spring it is for liability reasons and safety reasons.
 In a tense situation, and lets face it if an LE has his shotgun out things are tense, humans have an auto neuro response ( can't remember the latin term)...IN that when startled such as a yell, a bump, etc we will automaticallly tense our digits/ hands .....as in trigger fingers.
 If we're holding on a suspect and someone yells what can and does happen is a big boom...NOT good.
heavier trigger is in response to said stimulus, and helps to some extent, same reasons I believe  NYPD went to 12 lb Glock trigger.
Any NY LE's out there care to respond?
4/15/2005 8:12:26 AM EDT
[#8]
NYSP didnt get a 12 pound trigger on their Glocks. They got the 7 pound trigger with an extra spring in it to duplicate the feel of a double action revolver, to ease the transition from the wheelguns to the semiauto.
4/16/2005 8:26:55 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
As to the heavier spring it is for liability reasons and safety reasons.



The 7lb sear spring is Remington's response to DeRosa vs Remington Arms.


"Defendant Remington Arms seeks to overturn a jury
determination holding it partially liable, in negligence and strict
liability, for the fatal injuries suffered by Suffolk County Police
Officer William V. DeRosa when the Remington shotgun carried by one
of his fellow officers was accidentally discharged.  Officer DeRo-
sa's widow brought this action contending that the force required
to pull the trigger on the shotgun-the trigger pull-was designed to
be so low that the gun was unreasonably dangerous for its
foreseeable use in police work, and that it was this defect in
design which caused her husband's death."
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