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Posted: 4/1/2005 5:46:17 PM EDT
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I've posted WTB's all over , check gunroker etc...and no one seems to have a Benelli M4 model #11707 . Its the model with the fixed stock/pistol grip like on the M1 S90 model. any help would be appreciated thx |
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K5 Arms had them...came with both stocks...fully adjustable & w/chokes{removable....} Don't know their web page...but their Ph # is 203-380-2783..prepare to pay a premium price if ya want one rt now,tho... Wait awhile & they will go down in price considerably...I bought mine thru a LE wholesaler for $1192  TTL..(carryout...)...K5 was wanting something like $1657 plus shipping..  Stay Safer! I might add..you will probably see a few well used ones hit the sales block when Military personel start coming back stateside from deployment.. 
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What is different abbout the 11707? Where has it improved over the "limited edition"? If it still utilizes the same heavy, thick walled "cannon barrel", as the M1014 then it is still basically the same isn't it? I was interested in an M4 until I found out Benelli was still using the heavy M1014 barrel on them. Could someone shed some light on this? Brian |
I think the only differance is that the 11707 has a collapsable stock , other than that I think they are the same. |
The #11707 has the requisite slots along the recoil spring tube housing to accommodate a functional sliding stock. The rest do not, but may be modified by a capable machinist so they will work w/ one. The barrel profiles are identical among all M4 variants, save for the static modified choke on the "limited". The others can swap screw-in chokes. I've lost count of how many times I've had to rebuff the "heavy-bbl.-comes-on-the-M1014-only" internet myth. |
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Don't forget the 11703 and the 11707 have 4 internal gas ports instead of the 2 ports in the LE model. The heavy barrel thing is a myth, look at the weight differences between the LE and the 11707 or the 11703, their is a minimal weight difference of like 2 ounces which can be attributed to the skeletonized stock vs. the pistol grip stock. The barrel of the LE has a fixed choke that cannot be removed, if that is what makes it a "heavy barrel," so be it. Only the 11707 has the notches for the real deal skeletonized stock to function. -Steve |
Aside from the added weight from the gas port assy, have you compared the weight of an M1014, or M4 barrel to an M1S90? I got rid of my M1014 becuase it was just way too front heavy in comparison to the M1S90. |
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I don't have an M1 to compare weights. I agree the M4 is front heavy. Most of this is due to gas piston system. I fixed this by adding more weight to the middle and rear of the weapon. Simply adding a shell carrier to the stock helps quite a bit. You definately get a lot less muzzle swing. -Steve |
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Okay, I'm pretty confused having read all the above. I have the Benelli "M4 LE.' Manual says M4 Super 90.' I have the changeable chokes. What part # is it? Can I put the skelton stock on it? What does the 'LE' mean (I thought the 'LE' model was the one with the American flag on the side)? |
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junker, Are you saying you have a Limited Edition M4 that has removeable chokes? Did you buy this weapon brand new? I ask, because it is possible the barrel was waranteed out with Benelli, or someone replaced the barrel. I've heard some people calling the 11707 the LE, for Law Enforcement. You can remove the stock and check to see if the notches are milled into the recoil spring housing for the collapsible stock. Check down the inside of the barrel and see how many gas ports are inside of the barrel. I really hope Benelli isn't simply doing a blind upgrade program as they go along changing things without telling anyone. As for Surefires rail system. I wouldn't hold your breath. They've been saying "soon" for over 6 months. Best bet is to go with the rail system from Sidearmor. Stay away from the DSA one. Would write more, but my car just got stolen. -Steve |
well, I looked through the breech and only saw two ports( to the lower right of the barrel) but my field of vision is limited. The reciever is marked 'm4L.E.' with a serial number of Y007***. It has the removelable chokes but not sure about the stock arrangement though I did get the collaspable stock with it. I just went to take it out of the case to get this info. I have to admit, I really like this gun! I bought this weapon brand new and assembled it out of the box. I took it to a skeet range where a former East German officer shot the hell out of it. He was impressed, being the owner of a Beretta over/under. |
Yours is the Law Enforcement model, not the Limited Edition M1014. There were only 2500 Limited Edition M1014 shotguns released. They have an American flag and a special serial number. |
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A lot of people confuse the LE thing. There is the M4 in 11701 (receiver stamped "M4" with a flag etching..."Limited Edition" but they are everywhere it seems - no removable chokes and no notches on recoil tube to allow telescopic stock to work -- now discontinued), 11703 (receiver stamped "M4" - has removable chokes but no notches on recoil tube to allow telescopic stock to work - now discontinued), and the 11707 (receiver stamped "M4LE" (law enforcement NOT limited edition) - law enforecement because up until recently the ban was in place and this model was not allowed to the public (removable chokes and HAS notches on recoil tube to allow telescopic stock to work). A lot of the confusion may stem from people choosing in posts, etc. to abbreviate Limited Edition with LE, just as one would abbreviate Law Enforcement with LE. Many discussions with people at Benelli have confimed all of this info. However, there WILL BE more confusion going forward...now that they will ONLY make the 11707 going forward, they will no longer be marking the receivers with "M4LE." They will just be marking them "M4". That means that the new batch of 11707 coming in (seemingly lost at sea for the last 8 months - haha ) will be having receivers identical to the older 11703. SO, be careful that if you go to buy a new one in the future, you are indeed getting a new 11707 and not an older 11703 (11703 doesn't have recoil tube notches, but is identical in EVERY other way now that 11707s will no longer be marked "M4LE" going forward). Hope this helps some guys. Have a good one! |
| I tried to order one last year. Waited two months without any status update. Got fed up and bought a Benelli SBE and a Remington 870P for what the M4 would have cost. Glad I did. Take a look at the forums on the Benelli web site. A guy over there has had multiple failures/problems with the M4. 870P is tough as nails. |
That, is the best post I've seen on this subject. Answered the one question that's been buzzing around in my head. |
| I don't have any issues w/ it's reliability reports thus far. In fact, the only problem I recall was reported by stevenb, & was due to bad metallurgy of one of the pistons, which weakened it & caused it to break. He's had it replaced since & no more problems thus far after many more shots fired. |
One thing--the ban is still in place for these shotguns due to the fact that the are imported. The '89 import restriction has not expired, only the '94 ban regarding domestic assault weapons. Unless you add enough American-made parts for them to be considered domestic, you cannot legally add a working telestock to them now due to 922(r). I've never heard of a conviction due to 922(r), but I personally don't want to be the Guinea-pig. 
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Yeah, that is a hot issue right now M4Madness. Benelli did stop marking the 11707 receiver "M4LE" (Law Enforcement) when the domestic ban ended. AND they started trickling into the hands of lucky civilians when the domestic ban ended. However, you are right, just because the telescopic stock works on a 11707, it doesn't mean that a 11707 WITH a telescopic stock is BATF approved (in the hands of a civilian). However... ...this whole thing is so wacky...Benelli will now ONLY be importing the telescoping stock-capable 11707, yet they do so with the synthetic pistol grip stock attached. THEN, market the telescopic stock as an accessory (or in some cases give both the synthetic pistol grip stock and the telescopic stock in the factory 11707 box (telescopic stock not attached mind you)). I can't believe that the company would bait people like that if they hadn't worked it out with the BATF. Yet, it appears so, as there has been absolutely nothing released concerning BATF approval. Mind boggling!! 
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