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11/16/2004 12:15:12 AM EDT
A 14" 12 gauge with a rifled barrel.  Will be using saboted slugs.  Any thoughts?
11/16/2004 3:51:40 AM EDT
[#1]
From the Remington web site:

Will a longer shotgun barrel shoot farther?
  Question
  Will a longer shotgun barrel shoot farther?
  Answer
  Modern smokeless powders burn in the first 13 to 16 inches of the barrel and maximum velocities are obtained in the first 20 inches. Shot will carry the same distance regardless of the barrel length. Shot pattern will be the same whether the barrel is 21 inches in length or 30 inches in length, if the barrel has the same choke constriction.

Our experts state there would be a small variation in velocity when using a 21-inch barrel as compared with a 30-inch barrel; however, the variation would be immeasurable.

The basic advantage of a shorter barrel is that it will swing faster. The longer barrel gives the hunter a longer sight radius to be more precise, particularly when pass shooting waterfowl. Also, the longer barrel can often help balance certain shotguns better.


With the above in mind why would you shoot a fully rifled barrel any shorter than 20 inches? The 14"  barrels are for close combat, not deer hunting, and you do not need sabot slugs for defense. MIKE..
11/16/2004 2:53:55 PM EDT
[#2]
The guns in question are old wildlife enforcement shotguns, which have been sitting in inventory collecting dust..  They have 24", rifled, ported barrels with rifle sights.  The goal is to convert them into a patrol shotguns and put them back into service.  The debate is over just cutting down the existing barrels, or ordering new, cylinder-bore barrels.

Personally, I am lobbying for the latter.  Messing up a perfectly good deer barrel bothers me, however, I'm up against an extremely limited budget.

11/17/2004 2:09:42 AM EDT
[#3]
What are they going to be used for?

If it's just breaching then I figure the rifled barrel would be just fine.

If you plan on using shot then you will need new barrels.

eta -  after reading your post again, i see they will be patrol guns. In this case I would assume you would be using some sort of buckshot and would then say to get new smooth barrels.

perhaps you could sell some of the weapons to pay for the new barrels?
11/17/2004 12:00:19 PM EDT
[#4]
I would contact A LE wholesaler and talk about a trade or sell the barrels yourself and buy new smoothbore barrels. Because of the 24" length I am guessing they are Mossberg or Winchester barrels, 24" does not sound like a Remington barrel. As a LE officer on patrol I would not want a 14" fully rifled barrel. Buckshot thru a fully rifled barrel produces donut shaped patterns if it hits the target at all. Cutting these barrels down would, IMHO be a waste of money and time. MIKE.
11/17/2004 12:54:18 PM EDT
[#5]
Thanks for the input guys.  I agree that new barrels are the way to go, but, like I said, fund are extremely tight around her right now.  

You were right, they are Mossbergs.  I was just at the their website and saw that they have new, 18", smooth bore barrels for about $75.00.  Perhaps I can sell the brass on picking up a couple.

Once again, thanks.
11/17/2004 2:30:50 PM EDT
[#6]
If those barrels are $75.00 dollare retail you as a LE Department could get them for 50-60 dollars on department letterhead to a LE wholesaler. You could sell the rifled barrels for the same price easily. MIKE.
11/19/2004 7:10:48 PM EDT
[#7]
Update:

I got a local dealer to swap barrels straight across.  Now if I could only get him to trade the whole gun for an 870...
11/20/2004 5:31:34 PM EDT
[#8]
Good work. MIKE.
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