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2/24/2003 9:46:59 AM EDT
Can the benelli M1014 shotguns(civilian models) hold a round on the carrier along with a full magazine and one in the chamber?
2/24/2003 1:42:44 PM EDT
[#1]
I read somewhere on this board that they do not hold the "secret round" anymore, but cannot seem to find the post right now.
2/24/2003 3:08:22 PM EDT
[#2]
My M1014 holds an extra round on the carrier. 4+1+1 The  post ban M1S90 tactical I just got does not hold the extra round on the carrier.  
2/25/2003 11:41:17 AM EDT
[#3]
Eagles,
    Thank-you!  Was at 0200 this am, that I read your missive.  What a great bit of info!  Was not even aware that this was possible!  Spent next 3.5 hours changing out go pack, bandoleers, and thought processes...  Outstanding.  "News you can use..."  Truly a sweet bit of info...  Again, THANKS!

Regards and Respects,
Carter F. Leffen, oldpaladin, out...

P.S., talked to Benelli in MD today, and they just got an invoice for the two shot magazine extensions...  Latest arrival date is April, but may be sooner...  Shucks, I've been waiting since October/November 2002...  Oh,well.  After reading your post, I'm one very much happier camper...  6, instead of five!  Next, it'll be 8 instead of 7!  Now that's worth looking forward to!  Take care, Eagles, be well, be safe, happy, and be prepared to protect your peace...  CFL
2/25/2003 4:51:29 PM EDT
[#4]
scottyran, M4Madness, Eagles,
    Talked to Benelli in MD this afternoon, and mentioned the extra round on the carrier that Eagles pointed out.  There was a pause on the line when I asked what else would help...  Well, a little while later, the nice young lady asked me if I'd taken out the plug.  Plug?  DOH!  Nope, hadn't even thought of a plug...  When I very happily signed-off, I grabbed a narrow screwdriver, and after taking off the faux extension, pried out the magazine spring seal ring.  Be careful, as the plug IS under pressure...  No problem...  Make sure the spring doesn't bind, re-attach the faux mag extension, and voila, you've now got a 5+1+1 shotgun!  Well, that is with 2.75" shells, otherwise, it's 4+1+1 for 3" shells.  When the two shot mag extensions, the real ones, get here, we'll have 7+1+1!  Yee-Haw!!!  Now, lets get a Benelli flag made up with crossed M1014's and TANSTAAFL proudly proclaimed...  Nine, that's a Very nice number, isn't it?  :o)
2/25/2003 7:25:47 PM EDT
[#5]
Thanks oldpaladin!
I removed the plug from the M1014 and replaced the seal ring before replacing the faux extension. Now five shells will load in the magazine! Once I got it apart, I thought about using the extension as the spring stop but decided to replace the ring instead.   With the ring in place the spring has the same tension.  I expect the 2 shot extension will have a longer magazine spring.
Are you using the extension as the spring stop and still get 5 rounds in the magazine? The extra length is almost the same as another shell and looks close to making it hold 6.
Thanks for the information. I had wondered why the other 18.5" bbl Benellis hold 7 in a full length tube and the M1014 would only have held 6 with the 2-shot extension.  More good news to know the extensions may be arriving shortly.
2/26/2003 12:16:06 PM EDT
[#6]
What is the max # of rounds the M1014 can have in it with the pistol grip stock?  Someone posted a warning about it a month and a half or so ago and I'm unable to locate their post using the search function.

George
3/6/2003 9:14:43 PM EDT
[#7]
Eagles and George,
    I'm using the faux magazine extension as the spring stop, and getting room for five 2.75" rounds...  Equals a seven shot when fully loaded...  Eagles, you're a genius.  No doubt!  George, I'm not interested in limits for hunting, nor am I interested in legal fictions suitable for small minded civil serpents...  When out and about, I can carry the beauties with four plus one, and be happy knowing that I can top them off quickly enough for business- if necessary...  I've been shot at before, so I want to know exactly how many rounds I can load-up...  My mags for my match grade Armalite hold only 25 out of 30 possible...  I probably don't need that many, as I regularly roll tennis balls at 225 to 250 yards, using a peep sight, or a Meprolight 21 Reflex sight...  Accuracy has no substitute you can bank on...  Back to my M1014/M4S90's...  I knew an old gunners mate chief, who said something I've always taken to hear...  Ammo is such that if you need it, and you've got it, that's good.  If you need it, and you don't have it, that's bad.  Outside of water, nothing's more important than ammo...  He was right, lo, those many years ago...  Still right, come to think of it...  When at the range, I regularly have 200 rounds with me- which I can wear, or carry...  Slugs, 000 or 00 Buckshot, a handfull of sabots, and flares...  Guess what I'm trying to say is this:  Don't sweat the small stuff...  I load, shoot, and practice like I would for combat.  Whatever blood spent in practice won't/mightn't be shed in combat...  Know your weapon, know yourself, know your enemy...  Sorry, getting "philosophical" here...  Take care, be safe, be happy, and above all, be at peace...  Carter, oldpaladin, out...      
3/13/2003 3:45:51 PM EDT
[#8]
Well, I took the little red rascal (plug) out of my M1014 last night as well. ;)
3/14/2003 8:55:54 PM EDT
[#9]
Folks,
    Just got my two shot magazine extensions from Benelli- Awesome!  They're definitely in the pipleline...  They're well worth the investment...

Carter, oldpaladin, out...
3/15/2003 8:35:02 PM EDT
[#10]
oldpaladin,
Thanks for the tip about the mag extension...got one on the way from Cal's Sporting Armory.  
3/16/2003 4:48:18 AM EDT
[#11]
How much are you guys paying for your mag extensions? The dealer whom I bought the M1014 from has them in stock and tried to sell me one for $67.
3/16/2003 9:32:38 AM EDT
[#12]
More to the point, how are you legally using the extensions? Did ou manage to get full-stock kits too?
3/16/2003 3:48:33 PM EDT
[#13]
M4, $67 sounds like a fair price.  Cal's is $63 plus shipping, my dealer quoted "about $75".

Katana, 5 in the tube +1 in the chamber must be legal, it's what a post-ban M1 Tactical holds in stock form.  Haven't seen the field stocks for the M-1014 yet, but I'll have the extension on hand for when I'm able to locate one.  Either that or put on the new tube extension in place of the fake one and use the stock spring and spring seal ring.  Sounds plausible eh?
3/16/2003 6:03:31 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Haven't seen the field stocks for the M-1014 yet, but I'll have the extension on hand for when I'm able to locate one.



My sentiments exactly. I have no intention of violating the AW ban by placing a mag extension on a pistol-gripped semi-auto shotgun.
3/24/2003 9:02:49 PM EDT
[#15]
I copied this from the Del-ton website.

A semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of -
   (1) a folding or telescopic stock;
   (2) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of
   the weapon;
   (3) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and
   (4) an ability to accept a detachable magazine
   
    I think that you can legally only have one of these items on your shotguns.  Pretty retarded.  I was so looking forward to owning a real mil-spec one.
3/24/2003 9:37:56 PM EDT
[#16]
Does anyone know if any "version" of this weapon is California legal?

God... just having to ask this question makes me wonder what I'm still doing here.

[How many French men does it take to defend Paris?
No one know... its never been tried.]
3/25/2003 7:25:20 PM EDT
[#17]
Answered my own question today while visiting the local Gun shop.  YES!  We do have it.  They don't allow the stock to collapse and cut the magazine in half but by god we have it.
Woo Hoo!!!

Hey,  I don't get many victories here in CA.

[I would rather have the German Army in front of me than the French Army behind me.   -General George S. Patton
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