Posted: 5/21/2012 10:02:05 AM EDT
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Has anyone heard when the FNS 9 Compact will be available?
All I've heard is that it will be by the end of the year. I see FNH has a page for it on their website, but no picture yet. |
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I shot this pistol last week at FNS side event. Handled well. Balance was good. Once my POA to POI was established 6" plates at 15 yards fell. Recoil wasn't noticable over say, my OD Green, G19.
Thumb safety is accesible but doesn't protrude to be in the way. Fit flush within reciever.That's a deal maker for me. I'd rate this gun as good or better than my Glock or XD. Rate above Smith & Wesson M&P..... don't know about that. Likely not. I'm not much on stiker fired weapons but if a deal popped up I sure would buy one up. Retail I was told was in $600.00 range. Anyway, if you're an FN fan waiting for this pistol. My prediction is you won't be dissapointed. |
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The FNS I was looking at at the FN website sports a 4inch barrel
To me that is a compact Pistol  like the G19/Sig P229 wich is close to 4inch etc!
I always though barrels over 4.5 to 5 was service type pistol AKA 1911,Beretta M9, G17 etc! Anyways the FNS looks to be a nice pistol |
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Quoted: Behold. https://shop.ombguns.com/images/Product/large/1911.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff295/Texaspoff/ad2.jpg That looks awesome. But too bad for FN and me. Their company sucks and have treaded all over us IMO with the FNS thumb safety fiasco and the FNP/FNX-45 fiasco. I won't be buying any of their guns Although, if I could get a hold of a no external safety model, I'd be tempted...  |
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Quoted: Their company sucks and have treaded all over us IMO with the FNS thumb safety fiasco What fiasco? The whole "I don't care how much you guys want a FNS without a thumb safety, THOSE MODELS ARE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND MILLITARY ONLY!!!! YOU THUGS PROBABLY WANT A HK MP7 TOO!! WHAT ARE YOU NUTS!! THOSE ARE DANGEROUS W3APONS!!" Seriously FN, no LE agency is adopting your FNS as well as no millitary will be either. Have half a brain sell your products to people who actually want to buy them
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Your assumptions are incorrect. There are several hundred LE agencies across the US evaluating the FNS series for official adoption. Considering that the pistols have only really been available for departments to T&E since March, and considering how long the adoption processes can take, it's not surprising the pistol is still being tested, Although there are already two departments that have adopted the pistol. The Columbia, SC PD and another department in Kansas that eludes me at the moment. The Miami-Dade police department has not officially made switch yet, but my sources say that the only thing left to do is sign the purchasing papers. I would expect to see an annoucement regarding that department adopting the FNS relatively soon.
As for your concerns regarding the thumb safety model....my unofficial sources tell me that the non-safety version of the FNS pistols will be available for commercial purchase starting after the 2013 SHOT Show. Hold the hate...the pistol you want it coming. USSA-1 |
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Quoted: Your assumptions are incorrect. There are several hundred LE agencies across the US evaluating the FNS series for official adoption. Considering that the pistols have only really been available for departments to T&E since March, and considering how long the adoption processes can take, it's not surprising the pistol is still being tested, Although there are already two departments that have adopted the pistol. The Columbia, SC PD and another department in Kansas that eludes me at the moment. The Miami-Dade police department has not officially made switch yet, but my sources say that the only thing left to do is sign the purchasing papers. I would expect to see an annoucement regarding that department adopting the FNS relatively soon. As for your concerns regarding the thumb safety model....my unofficial sources tell me that the non-safety version of the FNS pistols will be available for commercial purchase starting after the 2013 SHOT Show. Hold the hate...the pistol you want it coming. USSA-1 What I mean is the vast majority of agencies that use Glocks aren't going to drop them for a pricier, more complicated FN that doesn't have a system like Glock 27, 23, 22 has. The Glock is really the perfect handgun for police work. The majority of police are far from shooters. There is no reason to make the citizens wait a year while the guns sit on the shelves of LEO only retail. Bad customer relations move
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What I mean is the vast majority of agencies that use Glocks aren't going to drop them for a pricier, more complicated FN that doesn't have a system like Glock 27, 23, 22 has.
I don't agree that the FN is a more complicated system. It is exactly the same system as the Glock but with a better trigger (although that is subjective) and the LE market pricing is competitive with the Glocks. While it's true that at this moment FN does not have a compact model of the FNS, it will debut at SHOT and will be available next year. You have to remember that Glock is the premier LE weapon in the Country, but it's also had a 25 year headstart. The FNS has only been available for 6 months...give it some time. Like I mentioned, it looks like Miami is gonna dump their Glocks for the FNS. The FNS is a good, solid pistol. I think it will be around for a long time. There is no reason to make the citizens wait a year while the guns sit on the shelves of LEO only retail. Bad customer relations move
It's not really an issue of trying to make citizens wait as it was a business decision. Right or wrong FNH made the decision to give the LEO market priority this first year, but it sounds like they will be available to everyone after SHOT. |
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I love my four FNS 9's, and I will have a compact with a TS when it comes out whenever that is. Like it or not there are lots of people out there who prefer the TS. I started off with 1911's and CZ75's because of my grandfather at a young age, so it is 2nd nature to me to flick down on the draw.
I dont know why so many glockholes act like the world is coming to an end when they see a thumb safety. You dont see anyone having a fit because Glock does'nt offer them, besides the FNS safety is very low profile, it's easy to swipe down but is not going to be engaged by accident under any circumstances. I think a modular design like the M&P or CZ duty should be on all guns, let the user decide. |
| I just picked up a FNS9 off of the prize table at the FB3G match last weekend and so far I am impressed with the feel and quality of this pistol. I have always liked the size of a Glock 19 and the FN feels about the same size with a full size grip frame. It's like a G19 with a G17 grip, which I like. The standard night sights are also a nice addition as they aren't an aftermarket expense. The trigger also feels better after about 100 dry fire cycles so it should get better with live fire. I only picked it up yesterday so I won't get to the range until next week. |
| I love My FNX-9 and have been toying with purchasing ans FNS-9 and was really waiting for a compact. However if the compact is really like the pic above I will be spending my money on a different compact. IMHO a compact should have a shorter grip. The grip is the hardest part of a fire arm to conceal and if compacts aren't built for concealment then what are they for? I was hoping for a 3.5" barrel and a 12 round magazine. Having a full size grip defeats the purpose. I can conceal a gun with a 5" barrel and a short grip a whole lot better than a 3.5" barreled gun with a full size grip. Just my 2cents. |
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Quoted: I love My FNX-9 and have been toying with purchasing ans FNS-9 and was really waiting for a compact. However if the compact is really like the pic above I will be spending my money on a different compact. IMHO a compact should have a shorter grip. The grip is the hardest part of a fire arm to conceal and if compacts aren't built for concealment then what are they for? I was hoping for a 3.5" barrel and a 12 round magazine. Having a full size grip defeats the purpose. I can conceal a gun with a 5" barrel and a short grip a whole lot better than a 3.5" barreled gun with a full size grip. Just my 2cents. It is a 12 round magazine and shorter grip. It's not a fullsize grip |
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Quoted: Damn, I'm disappointed that the FN9 compact has only a 12 round magazine rather than a 15 round like the G19.  Any specs on the measurements of the FN9 C? My guess is think of the FNS series like the M&P. I bet the FNS compact will be the same size as an M&P compact given that they hold the same number of rounds and same barrel length |
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Damn, I'm disappointed that the FN9 compact has only a 12 round magazine rather than a 15 round like the G19.
Any specs on the measurements of the FN9 C? My guess is think of the FNS series like the M&P. I bet the FNS compact will be the same size as an M&P compact given that they hold the same number of rounds and same barrel length Yeah, I think that's a fair comparison for now to give me an idea of size. Thanks. |
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When I was at the factory on friday, I got to try out the new compacts. They are identical in size to the Glock 26/27 series. USSA-1 Damn, was kind of hoping for a G19 sized pistol that was still be enough to take a surefire x300 light. Sounds like these will only be big enough to accept TLR-3 sized lights. |
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Quoted: When I was at the factory on friday, I got to try out the new compacts. They are identical in size to the Glock 26/27 series. USSA-1 Unless they revamped the compacts, I call  The Glock 26 holds 10 rounds. The FNS compact according to the images above holds 12 rounds in 9mm. The slides may be identical, but the grips certainly aren't if the above info is true. Unless, FN figured out a magic way to get 2 more rounds in a Glock 26. Again (assuming it holds 12 in 9mm), I'm calling it M&P Compact size, which is noticeably bigger than a Glock 26 and noticeably smaller than a Glock 19 Edit: Okay, I'm lost. In an effort to get an idea of size, I just tried to take those "pictures" of the FNS compact and stack it on a Glock 26 and M&P Compact however when I did, I couldn't get them to stack right. I do not think those pictures of the FNS compact are scaled correctly. USSA-1, do the compacts not hold 12 rounds in 9mm anymore, since you say they are identical to Glock 26? Or do you mean the slide is the same but the grip is longer? |
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Edit: Okay, I'm lost. In an effort to get an idea of size, I just tried to take those "pictures" of the FNS compact and stack it on a Glock 26 and M&P Compact however when I did, I couldn't get them to stack right. I do not think those pictures of the FNS compact are scaled correctly.
I agree with you. When I looked at the pics, they did not seem scaled right to me either. USSA-1, do the compacts not hold 12 rounds in 9mm anymore, since you say they are identical to Glock 26? Or do you mean the slide is the same but the grip is longer?
My impression was that the compacts were the same size both in slide length and grip length when compared to the 26/27. I was not able to get a "full" grip on the frame and I had to curl my pinkie finger underneath the magazine basepad the same way I do for the Glocks. The 40 S&W held 10rds and the 9mm held 12 rds. I don't know what to tell you regarding the 2 extra rounds, but it did hold 12. That doesn't seem all that difficult though. If you have two magazines of the same dimension and one is a 40 and one is a 9, the 9mm mag will hold a couple more rounds because its a smaller diameter round when compared to the 40. Remember also that when Glock designed the 26/26 series, the 10 rd. AWB was still in effect, so it made sense that Glock 26 mags only hold 10 rds. I"m sure they could be tweaked to get 12 also. |
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Quoted: Edit: Okay, I'm lost. In an effort to get an idea of size, I just tried to take those "pictures" of the FNS compact and stack it on a Glock 26 and M&P Compact however when I did, I couldn't get them to stack right. I do not think those pictures of the FNS compact are scaled correctly. I agree with you. When I looked at the pics, they did not seem scaled right to me either. USSA-1, do the compacts not hold 12 rounds in 9mm anymore, since you say they are identical to Glock 26? Or do you mean the slide is the same but the grip is longer? My impression was that the compacts were the same size both in slide length and grip length when compared to the 26/27. I was not able to get a "full" grip on the frame and I had to curl my pinkie finger underneath the magazine basepad the same way I do for the Glocks. The 40 S&W held 10rds and the 9mm held 12 rds. I don't know what to tell you regarding the 2 extra rounds, but it did hold 12. That doesn't seem all that difficult though. If you have two magazines of the same dimension and one is a 40 and one is a 9, the 9mm mag will hold a couple more rounds because its a smaller diameter round when compared to the 40. Remember also that when Glock designed the 26/26 series, the 10 rd. AWB was still in effect, so it made sense that Glock 26 mags only hold 10 rds. I"m sure they could be tweaked to get 12 also. Oh shit! If they really are the same size as a Glock 26/27 or even between a Glock 26 and M&P, they have a real winner in the making. Higher capacity and the same dimensions? Sign me up! Thanks for the info and real sorry if I came across sounding like a jerk. It's been one of those days  |
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So, the FNS compact will be pretty short in length and height. I would imagine the full size magazine will be accepted into the compact.
How would you compare the thickness of the FNS to the Glock? I don't think the specs on FN's website really do justice to the FNS. |
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I would imagine the full size magazine will be accepted into the compact.
As far as I know..yes. How would you compare the thickness of the FNS to the Glock?
This thickness of the grip is the same as the full size FNS, it's just a shorter frame. The FNS fells better in my hand because it has the 1911 grip angles. That combined with the interchangable backstraps really allow you to adjust the pistol to fit your hand quite nicely. I think you will find the FNS more comfortable to grip compared to the Glock. At least that's my perception. USSA-1 |
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That has me stoked, as that's what I was expecting from the conversation I had with a rep. He said think G26 size not G19! Glad to hear that USSA. I would think 12 rounds is totally doable in that size weapon. Remember if you don't have a 1/4" of plastic surrounding the magazine metal liner like on a Glock there is more room for bullets! Also, the designer of the new Caracal figured out how to get 13 rounds in a Kahr width subcompact. His magazine is designed so as to allow the spring to totally collapse upon itself with smaller concentric spirals as the spring is "wound." Brilliant design that would allow for 1 possibly 2 additional rounds. USSA: Can you give any insight as to the .45 compact that is hinted at. I can no longer find it on the new FN website. Thanks!! Dave |
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USSA: Can you give any insight as to the .45 compact that is hinted at. I can no longer find it on the new FN website. Thanks!!
Nothing at this time. The 9 & 40 compacts will roll out first. Then the 45's at a later date. When I get a chance to glimpse them...I will let you guys know. |