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8/4/2010 1:24:19 AM EDT
this is more of a rant..but no i feel its a legit question. why are mags for a 99 year old weapon

1. between 15-35+ dollars

2. apparently so difficult to be manufactured correctly considering mag related issues and just plain crap mags

3. where's the millions of used mags over the years that should bring prices down,  they just drift at the same price level as mags for about every other handgun

4. How reliable were mags from 1911, or USGI mags, where are they? are they the cheap "colt 1911 magazines" that have bad reviews from what ive seen?  

i know i konw manufacturers dont put out the same quality blah blah, but really, welded sheet metal, shape feedramps, heat treated, add spring and follower, use proven design.. where and why do crappy mags exist! ahhhhhhhhhhh

8/4/2010 2:27:22 AM EDT
[#1]
I thinK the tripp and CmC power mags are prob the best but even thise "seem crappy"

i wish they would make some Power mags with "anti-tilt" followers
8/4/2010 3:05:09 AM EDT
[#2]
I agree the tilting follower in the Power mags seems fragile, I like the follower Tripp has with a skirt. One thing that has got to be remembered about 1911 mags is that they are an expendable, temporary part of the weapons system that does wear out quickly and must be checked if the shooter competes or the mags have been in military or law enforcement. I still have some old Wilsons that are still good but I replaced the internals with Tripp super 7 kits. If you won't a 1911 mag to last a long time loaded that has a standard length body, make sure it is a 7 round with a skirted follower and you won't be let down. Never skimp on 1911 magazines, a cheap one will make a $3,000 1911 choke.
8/4/2010 3:16:18 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I agree the tilting follower in the Power mags seems fragile, I like the follower Tripp has with a skirt. One thing that has got to be remembered about 1911 mags is that they are an expendable, temporary part of the weapons system that does wear out quickly and must be checked if the shooter competes or the mags have been in military or law enforcement. I still have some old Wilsons that are still good but I replaced the internals with Tripp super 7 kits. If you won't a 1911 mag to last a long time loaded that has a standard length body, make sure it is a 7 round with a skirted follower and you won't be let down. Never skimp on 1911 magazines, a cheap one will make a $3,000 1911 choke.


Good 1911 mags last a LONG time, I have a lot of WWII ones that still work perfectly fine. New one's, even the expensive one's, are made pretty dang cheaply. Of course if you tend to drop mags a lot onto hard ground, they will not last, nor do I expect them to. Still, $30 for new mags is pretty nuts, once the tooling is amortized, they are cheap to make.
8/4/2010 3:19:51 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I agree the tilting follower in the Power mags seems fragile, I like the follower Tripp has with a skirt. One thing that has got to be remembered about 1911 mags is that they are an expendable, temporary part of the weapons system that does wear out quickly and must be checked if the shooter competes or the mags have been in military or law enforcement. I still have some old Wilsons that are still good but I replaced the internals with Tripp super 7 kits. If you won't a 1911 mag to last a long time loaded that has a standard length body, make sure it is a 7 round with a skirted follower and you won't be let down. Never skimp on 1911 magazines, a cheap one will make a $3,000 1911 choke.


Good 1911 mags last a LONG time, I have a lot of WWII ones that still work perfectly fine. New one's, even the expensive one's, are made pretty dang cheaply. Of course if you tend to drop mags a lot onto hard ground, they will not last, nor do I expect them to. Still, $30 for new mags is pretty nuts, once the tooling is amortized, they are cheap to make.


I agree with that.
8/4/2010 4:47:38 AM EDT
[#5]
the gi issue ones do last a pretty long time and usually work  BUT:
they were designed to run with hardball only - they may not run with any other bullet type
they were pretty disposable at the time of issue -at least in war time- and if my military experience is any example- magazines were abused and care of them frequently ignored.
All mags whatever the source are pretty easily damaged
the 1911 was made and designed prior to standardized tooling and cnc etc.- dozens of makers working off drawing with a lot more dimensional variation over 100 years than what would be built into a design today
the current mag makers have to perfect designs that will work in all the 1911's out there with the wide dimensional variations of a copied 100 year old design- and some guns made under pressue of war time production where qc standards were relaxed to speed production.
just look at current made ar lowers and how some have tight mag wells- and this is with a much younger design cnc machines better standardized dimensions etc