Posted: 6/27/2010 6:36:47 PM EDT
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I recently picked up a Colt Comp Commander, I would rate it at 95% anyone have any idea what it is worth?
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I recently picked up a Colt Comp Commander, I would rate it at 95% anyone have any idea what it is worth? Thanks Gonna need more detail, is it a series 70 or 80? Blue, stainless or combo? Here's what I found: Combat Commander Series 80 Blue Finish Add to Collection - disc. 1996. Grading 100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60% $800 $700 $600 $500 $450 $425 $400 Last MSR was $735. Add $20 for 9mm Para. (disc.) or .38 Super (disc.) cal. _____________________________________________ Combat Commander Series 80 Blue Slide/Stainless Steel Receiver Add to Collection - .45 ACP cal., two-tone matte finish, upswept grip safety, lightweight perforated trigger, black Hogue grips, 8-shot mag., 35 oz. Mfg. 1998 only. Grading 100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60% $800 $650 $550 $525 $500 $475 $450 Last MSR was $813. ______________________________________________ Combat Commander Series 80 Stainless Steel Add to Collection - .38 Super (mfg. 1992-97) or .45 ACP cal. Mfg. 1990-98. Grading 100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60% $850 $675 $550 $475 $450 $425 $400 Last MSR was $813. –––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– Combat Commander Series 80 Satin Nickel Add to Collection - disc. 1986. Grading 100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60% $975 $800 $675 $625 $575 $550 $475 Last MSR was $550. –––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– SERIES 70 COMBAT COMMANDER Add to Collection - mfg. 1971. Grading 100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60% $1,100 $1,000 $850 $750 $650 $575 $500 Add 10% for NIB condition. Add 10% for satin nickel. This model was also available in satin nickel finish (scarce). ______________________________________________________ Hope that helps! |
| There are no series 70 commanders and all commanders had S80 firing systems in them by 1983 or so. If you discount the oddball value, it's probably $700ish with box & papers. With the oddball value it may top $1,000 with box & papers but I highly doubt it in this market. |
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There are no series 70 commanders and all commanders had S80 firing systems in them by 1983 or so. If you discount the oddball value, it's probably $700ish with box & papers. With the oddball value it may top $1,000 with box & papers but I highly doubt it in this market. Don't shoot the messenger, but according to both Colt and Blue Book Inc. in 1971 Colt manufactued a 70 series Commander. I've never seen one, but its in both books. |
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I'll buy the messenger a beer if he can produce evidence of a Colt Series 70 Commander that aren't misinformed circulations.
there are 2 Series 70 types known to exist: 1. Those 5" models in the 1970s which have ALL of the following: A. Colt Series 70 rollmarks on the slide B. Accurized barrel C. Finger collet bushing D. Pre-80 "GI" firing system (which most erroneously call a S70 firing system). 2. The 5" reproductions from the 2000s, which only share rollmarks with its predecessor. Gone are the the barrel, bushing, and half of the "GI" firing system parts, although the system functions as a pre-80 pistol. There have never been Series 70 Commanders. No barrel, no bushing, no S70 rollmarks. The closest thing you will find are Pre-80 Commanders and Combat Commanders with S70 or SC70 serial number prefixes. |
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I'll buy the messenger a beer if he can produce evidence of a Colt Series 70 Commander that aren't misinformed circulations. there are 2 Series 70 types known to exist: 1. Those 5" models in the 1970s which have ALL of the following: A. Colt Series 70 rollmarks on the slide B. Accurized barrel C. Finger collet bushing D. Pre-80 "GI" firing system (which most erroneously call a S70 firing system). 2. The 5" reproductions from the 2000s, which only share rollmarks with its predecessor. Gone are the the barrel, bushing, and half of the "GI" firing system parts, although the system functions as a pre-80 pistol. There have never been Series 70 Commanders. No barrel, no bushing, no S70 rollmarks. The closest thing you will find are Pre-80 Commanders and Combat Commanders with S70 or SC70 serial number prefixes. They are in Both the Colt and the blue book publications I have, thats all I know. Check www.bluebookinc.com for more info, thats where I found the data. If it is true, I like a nice German Wisen Beer, thick and cold! |
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I'll buy the messenger a beer if he can produce evidence of a Colt Series 70 Commander that aren't misinformed circulations. there are 2 Series 70 types known to exist: 1. Those 5" models in the 1970s which have ALL of the following: A. Colt Series 70 rollmarks on the slide B. Accurized barrel C. Finger collet bushing D. Pre-80 "GI" firing system (which most erroneously call a S70 firing system). 2. The 5" reproductions from the 2000s, which only share rollmarks with its predecessor. Gone are the the barrel, bushing, and half of the "GI" firing system parts, although the system functions as a pre-80 pistol. There have never been Series 70 Commanders. No barrel, no bushing, no S70 rollmarks. The closest thing you will find are Pre-80 Commanders and Combat Commanders with S70 or SC70 serial number prefixes. Just for sh1ts ang giggles, I googled it, this genleman appears to demonstrate several series 70 combat commanders, your thoughts? |
| There was recently a new, unfired one on Gunbroker. It was priced at $1250 and didn't sell despite a few listings. Here is the link:http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=167926605 Based on that I'd say a used one in good shape would go for around $900 give or take? Neat gun BTW. |
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Just for sh1ts ang giggles, I googled it, this genleman appears to demonstrate several series 70 combat commanders, your thoughts? More perpetuation of classic misconception. Colt made the S80 firing system in the 1980s and all new pistols incorporated this liability safety from that day forward until sometime in the early 2000s when they made some "custom shop" offerings that used the older firing system. Those who distinguished the "now" (s80) types from the "then" (pre-80) types began to call them Series 70 pistols. The distinction to them was about the firing system. While it is true that the S70 had the "original" or "pre-80", or "USGI", system all it's predessessors had, it was not the weapon that originally incorporated the system. Thus, from the point of view of the firing system, a M1911 = a M1911A1 = a 1953 Colt Commercial = a 1968 Colt Commercial = a 1971 Colt Commercial = a 1974 Colt "Series 70". Consider this inquiry at a gun store of a 1968 Gold Cup. Hey, that Colt behind he counter, does that have the S70 or the S80 firing system? - Uh, the S70 Hey, that Colt behind the counter, is that a Series 70 or a Series 80? - Uh, it's a Series 70. The first example is correct because the S70 system is simply a pre-80 system. The second example is false because a 1968 GC is not a Series 70 pistol despite the fact they share a common firing system. Moving on to a Commander. Remember the magic words: S70 rollmarks, Accurized barrel, Finger collet bushing, pre-80 firing system. The commander was first made in 1948. It was originally an aluminum framed commercial pistol chambered for 9mm, in hopes of becoming an officer pistol chambered for the NATO round. The weapon was subsequently available in .45 and remained a "chop-top" aluminum-alloy frame pistol until the 1970s, IIRC. In the 1970s Colt added a steel frame Commander to the line and called it the "Combat Commander", so you had that option or the original aluminum alloy "Commander". I believe sometime in the 1980s Colt made the "Combat Commander" (Steel frame) into the "Commander", and they made the "Commander" (Al alloy) into the "Lightweight Commander". Thus, there are Series 80 Lightweight Commanders, Series 80 "Commanders" (Steel Frame) and for the first years of the 80s, Series 80 "Combat Commanders" and "Commanders" (aluminum alloy). Nevertheless, there are no S70 Commanders, because of all the Commanders made from 1948-1983 sporting the pre-80 firing system, NONE of them were marked Series 70, NONE of them have the Accurized Barrel, and NONE of them have the Finger Collet Bushing. Even judging the S70 by the lowest standard possible (the 2000s era 70 repro), the minimum requirement is the "Series 70" slide rollmarks and the firing system having enough pre-80 style parts to operate like an "original", "GI", "or pre-80" 1911 would. Until Colt makes a gun without a Series 80 firing system and adds "Series 70" on the slide, the gun simply is not a Series 70. It's a non-80. Every old Commander I know of has been a pre-80 Commander / Combat Commander. I have never seen one with Series 70 rollmarks, and if something actually legitimately existed from the 1970s, it would be worth a metric ass ton of money to a collector, for the above stated reasons. |