Posted: 5/6/2010 3:57:32 PM EDT
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Have a black TRP with only 900 or so rounds out of it and noticed something for the first time today.
If I lock the slide back manually with no clip in the gun and release the slide with the slide stop- the hammer follows the slide forward and rests on the half cock notch (and only if I am gripping the gun well enough to de-activate the grip safety) I can't make this happen if i pull back the slide and release i with no clip in the gun, it- only happens if I release the slide with the slide stop. Also, the malfunction does not occur with a loaded clip chambering a round using the slide stop. Also, if I cock the gun manually, pull the trigger, hold the trigger back, rack the slide and at the same time catch the slide on the slide stop (while still depressing the trigger) then let the slide return to battery using the slide stop the hammer stays back as it should-I then can let the sear reset and dry fire the gun. Any ideas?? And thanks in advance. Gun is stock Springfield-only thing I have done is get rid of the guide rod setup in favor of the GI setup. |
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What is happening when the slide is slamming home the sear is bouncing on the hammer releasing the hammer to half cock. Keep it up and you will damage the sear or trash the tuned trigger.
The reason it is doing that is because the pistol is not designed to slam home on a empty chamber. You pistol is fine you are just operating it incorrectly causing the malfunction. Keep this up longer and the edge on the sear will get damaged then you get creep, very unclean break on the trigger or the pistol stops operating properly. |
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Have a black TRP with only 900 or so rounds out of it and noticed something for the first time today. If I lock the slide back manually with no clip in the gun and release the slide with the slide stop- the hammer follows the slide forward and rests on the half cock notch (and only if I am gripping the gun well enough to de-activate the grip safety) I can't make this happen if i pull back the slide and release i with no clip in the gun, it- only happens if I release the slide with the slide stop. Also, the malfunction does not occur with a loaded clip chambering a round using the slide stop. Also, if I cock the gun manually, pull the trigger, hold the trigger back, rack the slide and at the same time catch the slide on the slide stop (while still depressing the trigger) then let the slide return to battery using the slide stop the hammer stays back as it should-I then can let the sear reset and dry fire the gun. Any ideas?? And thanks in advance. Gun is stock Springfield-only thing I have done is get rid of the guide rod setup in favor of the GI setup. I think using a clip in your 1911 is the problem. 1911's are designed to take a magazine so that may be it. |
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Holy shit -lets rip me a new one shall we!!
I don't normally drop the slide on an empty gun-just happened to do it once after cleaning the gun, lubing it and re-assembling it. I also thought it might be the vibration tripping the sear-was just asking if it should happen or not. The trigger is fine, i dot not have a trigger pull gauge but I would say its around 3.5-4 lbs. Clip/magazine whatever-you know what I am talking about . Can we not treat each other with respect on these forums? For those that replied with usefull info and not just for the oppurtunity to flame somebody I thank you. |
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Hammer should not follow if you drop the slide, especially if your trigger job isn't super-light. Something is not working correctly. It could be several things:
1) Trigger bounce due to insufficient pre-travel 2) Insufficient tension on disconnector leaf of sear spring 3) Insufficient tension on sear leaf of sear spring 4) Damaged or improper geometry on sear and hammer engagement surfaces I would advise you to take advantage of Springfield's warranty department in this case. While dropping the slide on an empty chamber is not a habit you want to get into, it can be used occasionally as a test to tell whether the fire control parts are properly adjusted with a margin of safety. |
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Not to cause trouble, but how else do you determine (safely) if your hammer follows if you don't drop it on an empty chamber?
OP...it's not normal, and you should definitely contact SA support for warranty work. Understood about the "habit" in the following post...just speaking from an armorer's point of view in troubleshooting...also a very good thing to do when buying a new/used 1911. |
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Not to cause trouble, but how else do you determine (safely) if your hammer follows if you don't drop it on an empty chamber? OP...it's not normal, and you should definitely contact SA support for warranty work. I think the point is to not make a habit out of it unless you are performing a safety/function check on the gun. Sometimes I see people lock the slide back to unload the gun and then drop the slide before they pack it up. |
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Call Springfield and explain the problem to them in detail and request a call tag under warranty. What, for him f***ing up his pistol?  I seriously doubt based on the OP's post that "HE" caused problem. But thanks for your input. Doing what he is doing though could potentially damage components. Calling SA is the better idea. |
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Have a black TRP with only 900 or so rounds out of it and noticed something for the first time today. If I lock the slide back manually with no clip in the gun and release the slide with the slide stop- the hammer follows the slide forward and rests on the half cock notch (and only if I am gripping the gun well enough to de-activate the grip safety) I can't make this happen if i pull back the slide and release i with no clip in the gun, it- only happens if I release the slide with the slide stop. Also, the malfunction does not occur with a loaded clip chambering a round using the slide stop. Also, if I cock the gun manually, pull the trigger, hold the trigger back, rack the slide and at the same time catch the slide on the slide stop (while still depressing the trigger) then let the slide return to battery using the slide stop the hammer stays back as it should-I then can let the sear reset and dry fire the gun. Any ideas?? And thanks in advance. Gun is stock Springfield-only thing I have done is get rid of the guide rod setup in favor of the GI setup. I think using a clip in your 1911 is the problem. 1911's are designed to take a magazine so that may be it. LMMFAO...I waiting on this one ...LOL |