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3/1/2010 9:14:05 PM EDT
Well I traded into a Mil-Spec tonight.  I wanted a Colt or a LB but it is what it is.  I want to have different sights, a flat MSH, different trigger, ext thumb safety, beaver tail safety, different fcg parts, and skeleton hammer.  What else should I look for?  This is a N model with the Imbel on the side of the frame and not on the bottom.  From looking at the brl I think, key word there, it is a 1 pc brl.  So, what should I do in your opinions to make this a good defensive gun?  I plan on carrying this someday, want it for shooting and plinking with some house duties now.

Sights:  Who and what?
FCG parts:  Same as above?
BT safety:  Same as above?
Thumb safety:  Same as above?
Hammer:  Same as above?
flat MSH:  Same as above?
Trigger:  Same as above?
Melonite:  Who
Grips;  Got those changed over to a pair of Busse lt green G11.

Thanks
3/1/2010 9:23:56 PM EDT
[#1]
TO me the Mil Spec is a great carry gun right out of the box, but if you want to customize yours to suit your tastes then I suggest sending it to Springfield's Custom Shop, second would be Novak's.

Both will do it right, but with Springfield you would still have a warranty claim, I think...
3/1/2010 9:36:34 PM EDT
[#2]


Sights:  10-8 U Notch rear with typical night sight front. Both in Novak cuts.
FCG parts:  I assume you mean the ignition system...i.e. hammer, sear, and disconnector.  Look no further than Cylinder and Slide.
BT safety:  Ed Brown
Thumb safety:  Wilson Ambi or Ed Brown single side
Hammer:  Again, Cylinder and Slide
flat MSH:  Ed Brown
Trigger:  10-8, forget the skeleton thing, it's looks only, not function.
Melonite:  Springer Custom
Grips: VZ anything

The only other thing I'd recommend is an EGW custom fit barrel bushing and to get the frame tightened.  If you are going to have the whole gun re-finished I would have the front strap checkered at 25lpi.

Also, invest in a nice holster and some Wilson magazines.



3/1/2010 10:35:27 PM EDT
[#3]
It's going to effectively double what you paid to do all that. Maybe consider selling/trading it for a Loaded or TRP...the latter of which you will be approaching in price anyway.
3/2/2010 3:39:10 AM EDT
[#4]
If you MUST change all that go ahead...I would rather have something with all the good stuff I wanted and some hand fitting than anything off the shelf...is your barrel stainless???
Bill
3/2/2010 4:20:52 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Sights:  Who and what?



FCG parts:  Same as above?



BT safety:  Same as above?



Thumb safety:  Same as above?



Hammer:  Same as above?



flat MSH:  Same as above?



Trigger:  Same as above?



Melonite:  Who



Grips;  Got those changed over to a pair of Busse lt green G11.
Thanks







I basically did the exact same thing you did.  I sent it to Bob Serva at Fusion firearms and used his parts for most of it.
Sights: Novak style. remember that you will have to mill the slide for
these to fit.  I chose the Novak style vs real Novaks because it was
already at Fusion and it doesn't bother me that they aren't OEM
Novak sights





FCG parts:  went with a whole new trigger group





BT safety: Your best bet is to get a Smith & Alexander BT.  it is
cut for a .220 radius that the mil-spec has vs the .250 that most other
1911s have.  You can fit the .250 BT but will require welding up the
tangs on your frame





Thumb safety: single sided fusion





flat MSH



slide stop: there was probably nothing wrong with the old one, but i figured why not





Melonite:  I have a SS so it is getting bead blasted.  Fusion offers a variety of finishes but I can't tell you what they are.
Fusion section at 1911forum
Quoted:



It's
going to effectively double what you paid to do all that. Maybe
consider selling/trading it for a Loaded or TRP...the latter of which
you will be approaching in price anyway.




This is 100% correct.




It will effectively bring (cost of gun) + (cost of mods) close to $1500.
I chose this route because I knew what I wanted and I knew what was
available on the market which was out of my price range. Springfield
could have built the gun to my specs but with a 10 month wait.
Having mine modified is only going to take 4-6 weeks (only 2 more weeks
wait for me), but roughly the same cost as a brand new Springfield
Custom.



ETA: I don't ever plan on selling it, so resale value is of no concern to me

3/2/2010 5:10:05 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:


Sights:  10-8 U Notch rear with typical night sight front. Both in Novak cuts.  I like the Novak night sights
FCG parts:  I assume you mean the ignition system...i.e. hammer, sear, and disconnector.  Look no further than Cylinder and Slide.
BT safety:  Ed Brown
Thumb safety:  Wilson Ambi or Ed Brown single side I like ambi safeties with the small pads not extended
Hammer:  Again, Cylinder and Slide
flat MSH:  Ed Brown
Trigger:  10-8, forget the skeleton thing, it's looks only, not function.  Matter of preference some like it so do not ... I do just me though
Melonite:  Springer Custom
Grips: VZ anything

The only other thing I'd recommend is an EGW custom fit barrel bushing and to get the frame tightened.  If you are going to have the whole gun re-finished I would have the front strap checkered at 25lpi.  I like chain link

Also, invest in a nice holster and some Wilson magazines.





I agree with everything artsohc said just I have my preferences and that is the beauty of the 1911 they can be customized for anyone.
3/2/2010 5:20:32 AM EDT
[#7]
You might try shooting it first.  It may save you a ton of money in the long run.  Other than sites I don't see any of the stuff you listed significantly improving things.  Just bells and whistles.
3/2/2010 10:31:00 AM EDT
[#8]
Thanks guys.  A modified grip safety is a must for me as I get bit by the military hammer/gs configuration.  The more I look and think about it the more I like the looks of a "retro" build I remember seeing  in a shotgun news a while back.  I wish I could pony up the cash and get it all done at once but it is what it is so a slow build it will be.

Is building on a Imbel/Brazil marked frame even worth it?
3/2/2010 10:55:58 AM EDT
[#9]
yes, they are quality and the NM marked Springers are made by Imbel as well (just finished in the States)
Bill
3/3/2010 5:59:56 PM EDT
[#10]
You already paid for the sights, so I would leave them.  If you wanted to upgrade, you should have bought the GI.  As for the rest of the upgrades, you probably could have bought a TRP for how much the parts and machining will cost.

If it were me, I would shoot it a bit, then decide you really need a beavertail.  If not, I would drop in the Magic Cure For ILS and use it.
3/3/2010 6:10:11 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Is building on a Imbel/Brazil marked frame even worth it?


I have a question that relates to what you just asked and may answer it as well...

Springfield offers for $2085 the ability to turn your pistol into a Professional. I would assume this includes even the bottom level GI. Can we assume that the end result will be the same quality as if you purchased an actual Professional model with CRG serial #?

3/3/2010 8:53:39 PM EDT
[#12]



Quoted:


yes, they are quality and the NM marked Springers are made by Imbel as well (just finished in the States)

Bill


Not completely correct.



Springfield uses partially machined Imbel forgings to manufacture the NM ser # prefix receivers and uses Storm Lake barrels in these guns as well. NM ser # prefix guns are made in the USA and exhibit a tighter frame to slide fit, where the parts and materials come from are immaterial.






Quoted:




I have a question that relates to what you just asked and may answer it as well...



Springfield
offers for $2085 the ability to turn your pistol into a Professional. I
would assume this includes even the bottom level GI. Can we assume that
the end result will be the same quality as if you purchased an actual
Professional model with CRG serial #?







A lower cost Springfield such as a WW model that is reworked to a Professional Package will not keep it's tight slide to frame fit as long. Reason is it doesn't start out with over sized frame rails. However in all other aspects it will be the same gun, spec wise.



 
3/4/2010 2:23:21 AM EDT
[#13]
My NM marked Mil-Spec is the most accurate 1911 i have ever owned. I just bobbed the factory hammer a bit.It was so tight when i got ,i thought it would not run, never a bobble at all.