Posted: 1/29/2010 1:46:43 PM EDT
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I know that this may be a burned out subject but I was wondering what some different opinions are on this forum.
Round chambered, hammer down, no safety? Or round in the chamber cocked and locked? In the pants carry. |
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I know that this may be a burned out subject but I was wondering what some different opinions are on this forum. Round chambered, hammer down, no safety? Or round in the chamber cocked and locked? In the pants carry. Easy, and most will probably agree that the best way to carry is; Round Chambered, hammer cocked, safety on. Round Chambered with hammer down is dangerous for two reasons. First off, if you slip trying to let the hammer down slow.."BOOM". Second, if you drop your gun on the hammer, or something happens to strike your hammer with a round in the chamber..."BOOM". No round chambered will just get you killed in a gunfight. If you are fast enough to draw, then rack your slide, then aquire target and shoot, all before the bad guy can pull the trigger then go for it. I always pack cocked, locked, and ready to rock, safety on. |
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Condition 1, is the only way to roll.
I believe that the main reason that some are so spooked by a Cond 1 carry is the visual of looking at a weapon in that condition. But other then "internal" safeties all the tactical Tupperware are in the same condition. It's all about training, training and well training....... train for it, practice with it, and use your skills. MTCW...for what it's worth. |
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I agree, the "cocked and locked" is safer than any other method for a 1911, and I believe safer than other guns in typical DA/SA mode.
Another point, I was just reading an encounter during a robbery where the good guy was down on the floor on his stomach. The less you have to fool with in such a situation, the better. Ken |
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Quoted: I agree, the "cocked and locked" is safer than any other method for a 1911, and I believe safer than other guns in typical DA/SA mode. Another point, I was just reading an encounter during a robbery where the good guy was down on the floor on his stomach. The less you have to fool with in such a situation, the better. Ken Welcome to the Forum with post #1 |
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I agree, the "cocked and locked" is safer than any other method for a 1911, and I believe safer than other guns in typical DA/SA mode. Another point, I was just reading an encounter during a robbery where the good guy was down on the floor on his stomach. The less you have to fool with in such a situation, the better. Ken Welcome to the Forum with post #1 i just now noticed that... lol |
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I know that this may be a burned out subject but I was wondering what some different opinions are on this forum. Round chambered, hammer down, no safety? Or round in the chamber cocked and locked? In the pants carry. Easy, and most will probably agree that the best way to carry is; Round Chambered, hammer cocked, safety on. Round Chambered with hammer down is dangerous for two reasons. First off, if you slip trying to let the hammer down slow.."BOOM". Second, if you drop your gun on the hammer, or something happens to strike your hammer with a round in the chamber..."BOOM". No round chambered will just get you killed in a gunfight. If you are fast enough to draw, then rack your slide, then aquire target and shoot, all before the bad guy can pull the trigger then go for it. I always pack cocked, locked, and ready to rock, safety on. Can you explain how this could happen without the grip safety engaged???? |
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http://i907.photobucket.com/albums/ac276/guyanaman1963/Kimbers/P1010014.jpg?t=1264905925 Cocked and locked!!! MFR yup |
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I carry condition 1 because what is the point in carrying a gun that is not ready to use.
Some say that they can rack the slide and be ready just as fast, or cock the hammer but consider yourself in a real life or death situation do you think you will be able to manipulate the slide or hammer with copious amounts of adrenaline in your system, vision narrowed, and most all your other senses altered???? Unless you have years and years of training I guarantee you and 99% of everyone when it comes down to it and you get that rush you are going to make mistakes. Everyone says they can do it and that when it comes to the situation of that life or death situation that they will be good to go. Fact of the matter is and I will admit it right now I have years of training, combat experience (being shot at by people who want to kill me), real fighting for my life hand to hand combat experience, and I even made mistakes none that got me killed or anyone else killed but you WILL make mistakes. So carrying a pistol with a hammer down or no chambered round is flat out stupid. Had I done that I would be dead right now no question when combat comes you have to be ready and every split second counts. No time exist to waste it... so CONDITION 1 all the way. If you hear people say my friend who is SpecOps says carrying chambered/cocked/locked is dangerous and should not be done he is full of shit because we never carried that way we carried ready to fight. |
| One other thing if you are worried about carrying Condition 1 because you are worried about it magically going off or just going off the person who feels this way has no business carrying a 1911. This type of person needs to look to a new platform they are comfortable with and feel is safe. |
| I grew up around law enforcement and spent 6 years in the military. I am very familier with the 1911 and comfortable as well. Thanks for the feedback. I am still kind of new to the forum and seeing what kind of people are here. I enjoy reading everybodys opinions. |
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Quoted: one in chamber, hammer relaxed Neither safe, nor wise. Yeah, yeah I know you've done it a million times and nothings happened, but then that's what they all say. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=10&t=395415&page=1#bottom Quoted: Quoted: An ND...wow...hope noone was hurt ![]() Another guy next to to the person got grazed on the leg and was bleeding a little..Not too sure how deep the wound was..From what I understand, he was trying to de-cock a 1911 with a round in the chamber when the ND happened . Round struck the ground and ricochet hitting the guy next to him.. |


. Round struck the ground and ricochet hitting the guy next to him..