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10/18/2009 3:56:36 PM EDT
I picked up a MC Op, for next to nothing, so I'm thinking either sending it back to Springer and have it "PRO'd" or Novak, thoughts?  I have a Springer Pro now and love it, ut it doesnt have a rail, I got into the MC Op for cheap enough that it could go to either and be worked over for less than buying a new one from either of them, whats your thoughts here?
10/18/2009 5:06:05 PM EDT
[#1]
I would probably send it to Novak since you already have a Pro.
10/18/2009 6:48:59 PM EDT
[#2]
Have you shot it yet as it is?  They are decent guns, you may find they don't need much work.

I like the Pro idea, but I'd probably go with something different since you already have a Pro.
10/18/2009 9:26:23 PM EDT
[#3]
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Have you shot it yet as it is?  They are decent guns, you may find they don't need much work.

I like the Pro idea, but I'd probably go with something different since you already have a Pro.


Yep.
10/18/2009 10:42:49 PM EDT
[#4]
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I picked up a MC Op, for next to nothing, so I'm thinking either sending it back to Springer and have it "PRO'd" or Novak, thoughts?  I have a Springer Pro now and love it, ut it doesnt have a rail, I got into the MC Op for cheap enough that it could go to either and be worked over for less than buying a new one from either of them, whats your thoughts here?


he only thing i would have done to an MC operator is frontstrap checkering.  that's the only thing i wish i had on my champ operator.

10/18/2009 11:28:35 PM EDT
[#5]
10-8 .140 rear sight

Brass Bead front sight

S&A mag well

VZ operator grips

Checker front strap to 25lpi

re-crown barrel to flush with barrel bushing

Night hawk slide stop

New style Wilson combat ambi safety

Ion Bond finish







10/19/2009 5:06:11 AM EDT
[#6]
How can it be cheaper? The Pro package is well over $2,000. You can find a railed pro for around 2k if you are patient. I'd say have the front strap checkered and have it de MIM'ed and you will be good to go.
10/19/2009 6:50:04 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
10-8 .140 rear sight
Brass Bead front sight
S&A mag well
VZ operator grips
Checker front strap to 25lpi
re-crown barrel to flush with barrel bushing
Night hawk slide stop
New style Wilson combat ambi safety
Ion Bond finish




This sounds like a good idea...
10/19/2009 9:12:58 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
10-8 .140 rear sight
Brass Bead front sight
S&A mag well
VZ operator grips
Checker front strap to 25lpi
re-crown barrel to flush with barrel bushing
Night hawk slide stop
New style Wilson combat ambi safety
Ion Bond finish




Why the brass bead front?  I'm not familiar with 10-8's rear. I have always liked the Novaks.
I agree on the 25 lpi, the Pros 20 are a little agressive.
Why Nighthawks slide stop?
Whats the new Wilson ambi safety?
Whats your thoughts on Novaks one piece grip saftey?
Whats the Ion Bond finish?
10/19/2009 9:15:01 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
How can it be cheaper? The Pro package is well over $2,000. You can find a railed pro for around 2k if you are patient. I'd say have the front strap checkered and have it de MIM'ed and you will be good to go.


Well not allot cheaper, but I picked up the Operator for $450.00 with 50rds through it, and I put another 50 through it yesterday.  

10/19/2009 9:31:53 AM EDT
[#10]



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Why the brass bead front?  I'm not familiar with 10-8's rear. I have always liked the Novaks.

I agree on the 25 lpi, the Pros 20 are a little agressive.

Why Nighthawks slide stop?

Whats the new Wilson ambi safety?

Whats your thoughts on Novaks one piece grip saftey?

Whats the Ion Bond finish?


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I haven't handled a 1911 with the Novak Answer back strap but I think I'd most likely like it.



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10/19/2009 7:39:52 PM EDT
[#11]
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Well not allot cheaper, but I picked up the Operator for $450.00 with 50rds through it, and I put another 50 through it yesterday.  



Jesus, I feel like punching you.

10/20/2009 7:15:35 AM EDT
[#12]
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Well not allot cheaper, but I picked up the Operator for $450.00 with 50rds through it, and I put another 50 through it yesterday.  



Jesus, I feel like punching you.



Same here.
10/20/2009 2:25:44 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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Well not allot cheaper, but I picked up the Operator for $450.00 with 50rds through it, and I put another 50 through it
yesterday.




Jesus, I feel like punching you.



Same here.


Thief!!!

(if case someone's sarcasm detector is broken. I'm saying you stole that gun...awesome deal)

I'd go with the de MIM and checker the front strap suggestion



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10/20/2009 2:34:32 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
10-8 .140 rear sight
Brass Bead front sight
S&A mag well
VZ operator grips
Checker front strap to 25lpi
re-crown barrel to flush with barrel bushing
Night hawk slide stop
New style Wilson combat ambi safety
Ion Bond finish




Only thing I would change is SDM Gold bead in lieu or a brass bead....no tarnishing.

10/20/2009 6:18:36 PM EDT
[#15]
Also, I'm not sure why someone didn't say this earlier. Put a Dawson Rail and an X200 on your Pro...
10/20/2009 7:48:38 PM EDT
[#16]



Quoted:



Quoted:

10-8 .140 rear sight

Brass Bead front sight

S&A mag well

VZ operator grips

Checker front strap to 25lpi

re-crown barrel to flush with barrel bushing

Night hawk slide stop

New style Wilson combat ambi safety

Ion Bond finish










Only thing I would change is SDM Gold bead in lieu or a brass bead....no tarnishing.





You're right, I don't know why I typed Brass bead ................ brainfart most likely.




 
10/22/2009 6:41:30 AM EDT
[#17]
The first thing I did to my MC was swap the mainspring housing for a WWII arched serrated one with a lanyard loop. I picked it up out of a parts bin at Knob Creek. Arched ones just fit my hand better.

I'm planning on ditching the ambi safety, de-MIM'ing a couple critical parts like the slide stop and hammer, and eventually putting a 10-8 rear sight on it, but mine runs well as is to I'm in no huge hurry to dick with it.
10/22/2009 8:15:58 AM EDT
[#18]
No reason to mess with perfection.

http://fishkind.com/collection/images/sa1911_01.jpg