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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - torture

10/5/2009 6:59:05 PM EDT
are there any torture tests out there for 1911s? i see them for glocks, hks and smiths but not 1911s
10/5/2009 7:13:02 PM EDT
[#1]
I've never seen one. 1911s are great but I doubt they would do well in a GLOCK style torture test.
10/5/2009 7:22:10 PM EDT
[#2]
Hmmmm...but they have a great record in War time...some might call that the ultimate test...
Bill
10/5/2009 7:25:25 PM EDT
[#3]
torture testing a $450 glock is one thing... doing it to a $2,000 1911 is something else.

patrick sweeney in his glock and 1911 books does a theoretical one.  IIRC he says that the glock and 1911 should be similar in most ways.  he gives points to glock for having less materials that could rust/corrode and also that the glock should be less likely to bend.  otherwise he assessed them the same.

i think the important thing though to remember is that almost ANY glock will be the same.  whereas i doubt most 1911s, especially the lower end ones, will hold up the same depending on fit and finish.
10/5/2009 7:27:18 PM EDT
[#4]
I do recall this thing call WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, DS 1 and 2????  The one I carried in the sand box was always full of sand and never gave me a problem.  It got beat to shit and everything else... The 1911 does not need to prove itself anymore then it already has.  The 1911 has made it into the Hall of Fame.
10/5/2009 7:29:10 PM EDT
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10/5/2009 7:44:44 PM EDT
[#6]
Just WW I then WW II, etc.
10/5/2009 7:57:07 PM EDT
[#7]
Since Jan 20 2009 the US no longer tortures.
10/5/2009 9:01:11 PM EDT
[#8]
I only clean mine every 1000rds or so. To some thats considered torture to a 1911.
10/5/2009 9:23:13 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
I only clean mine every 1000rds or so. To some thats considered torture to a 1911.


I don't really CLEAN my 1911's. More like a shot with de-greaser, bore brushed barrel, patches run through the bore, wiped down and critical points shot with Tetra Gun spray. Done. Takes all of 5 minutes.
10/5/2009 9:26:58 PM EDT
[#10]



The M1911 Trials
       






 
 
10/5/2009 9:31:35 PM EDT
[#11]
Patrick Sweeney shot one under water, ran it over, buried it in sand, froze it, basically did everything you see done to the Glock. Did fine.
10/5/2009 10:25:54 PM EDT
[#12]
i saw one site that had a nighthawk custom 1911 torture test.  they dropped that thing in mud and did all sorts of other crap too it.  couldn't believe they were dong that to a $2,500 1911.

if i could only remember the site.....
10/6/2009 1:26:12 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Since Jan 20 2009 the US no longer tortures.


10/6/2009 4:39:57 AM EDT
[#14]
The testing for the FBI 1911 was certainly "torture" by many standards. I had a good link with the details but can't seem to find it now.

10/6/2009 8:47:26 AM EDT
[#15]
Thanks. SGB. That's exactly what I was looking for. I never knew the trials were that high in round count. Performed flawlessly too.

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10/6/2009 8:52:51 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Patrick Sweeney shot one under water, ran it over, buried it in sand, froze it, basically did everything you see done to the Glock. Did fine.


That's the one I'm thinking of.
10/6/2009 9:24:37 AM EDT
[#17]


SGOCKA, that is unreal. a true testament to the 1911 being a workhorse.
10/6/2009 9:42:44 AM EDT
[#18]
Many years ago Shooting Times did a 10,000 round test on a Colt Gold Cup and I think a LW Commander.  Early to mid seventies.  If memory serves both survived but the Commander may have developed a frame crack.
10/6/2009 10:15:08 AM EDT
[#19]
The commander did crack the frame slightly at the slide stop hole. That test inspired a torture test of the Browning BDM when it came out and I was there for that. The article was done by Layne Simpson then, at Greenville Gun Club. I suggested at the time that it would be interesting to do the same with custom guns from the top builders. There were no takers.  I would do it.
  Lotsa fun, but it gets boring quick


Chuck W
10/6/2009 7:09:48 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
i saw one site that had a nighthawk custom 1911 torture test.  they dropped that thing in mud and did all sorts of other crap too it.  couldn't believe they were dong that to a $2,500 1911.

if i could only remember the site.....


I don't know the site, but I'm pretty sure a guy that works for a shop near here did it, because he told me about it and showed me the gun and said it was going to be featured in an article.  I too was in horror of the stuff he did to a $2500 pistol including many thousands of rounds with no cleaning, stomping on it in the mud, etc
10/6/2009 7:38:33 PM EDT
[#21]
My NH








Anything else you want me to do to her?

She will literally go though anything that isn't self destructive
10/6/2009 7:54:03 PM EDT
[#22]


yeah, lock the slide back with a loaded mag in it.
THEN throw dirt on it, shake out the dirt and empty the mag.

Not because I don't think it will function..but because I don't think you'll do it
10/6/2009 7:56:40 PM EDT
[#23]
Ill try it, but I have a feeling it will more than likely jam from dirt getting into the chamber.

I was meaning something more realistic, but sure ill try it my next outing.
10/6/2009 8:02:30 PM EDT
[#24]


In the 1st thousand rounds, both pistols worked perfectly, without malfunctions.
In the 2nd thousand rounds, the Colt functioned perfectly.
In the 3rd thousand rounds, the Colt functioned perfectly.
In the 4th thousand rounds the Colt functioned perfectly.
In the 5th thousand rounds the Colt functioned perfectly.
In the 6th thousand rounds, the Colt functioned perfectly.

The Savage had 31 malfunctions; a new extractor was required, the breech plug had cracked, and the firing pin had acquired a permanent set., the safety slide broke and the retractor spring had acquired a permanent set. At the end of the firing, a careful examination of the Colt failed to reveal any defective parts.


10/6/2009 8:05:20 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Ill try it, but I have a feeling it will more than likely jam from dirt getting into the chamber.

I was meaning something more realistic, but sure ill try it my next outing.


Well of course I don't want you to blow the thing up or anything obviously you can check the chamber/barrel.

I certainly don't have the balls to do it to one of my 1911's, and I don't have anything at the Nighthawk's price point (yet)
10/6/2009 8:09:13 PM EDT
[#26]



Quoted:



yeah, lock the slide back with a loaded mag in it.

THEN throw dirt on it, shake out the dirt and empty the mag.



Not because I don't think it will function..but because I don't think you'll do it


This is a tech forum, not I dare you to do stupid stuff.




 
10/6/2009 8:09:40 PM EDT
[#27]
see above

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