Posted: 9/25/2009 10:53:26 AM EDT
| A friend of mine recently had his Colt Series 80 coated in Ionbond and now is having trouble getting rounds to chamber. Is it possible that the ionbond on the feed ramp is causing this, or could the ionbond process have altered the extractor tension? He says the gun ran fine before hand. |
| I'd have him call Scott Pringer and ask the question.. 541-480-5546.. If you wouldn't mind let us know what you find out. I've got one I'm getting ready to send off for Ionbond. I wouldn't have thought the process was hot enough to change temper on extractor.. it's easy enough to re-tune to find out. |
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What does 'getting rounds to chamber' mean? Type I (3 point) jam? Won't strip from the mag? Won't feed into the chamber?
Round should go from magazine to the chamber without the extractor even in the gun (see, I do listen to you guys). Quick test would be to take the extractor out and see if rounds chamber properly. If they do, then take a look at the extractor. Maybe he didn't even get the same one back that he sent and it needs some tuning or maybe it's clocking. If it still fails with the extractor out, then I would start thinking about magazines. Yea, I know it worked before but per Occam's Razor the simplest solution among competing possibilities is usually the right one. So.. magazine check, recoil spring check, burr check, then start thinking about unlikelly things like geometry and clearance stacking. If you mean that a round cannot be inserted into the chamber, then things are pretty simple and a call to customer service is in order. PS: I had taken the extractor out of a gun I was working on the see if it worked OK. It did. As Murphy would have it, I was interrupted and I forgot to put the extractor back in. A week and a half later, I took the gun to the range and was totally frustrated when it failed every 3 or 4 rounds. And now it was a brand new problem.. failing to always eject. I put the gun away in disgust. Then.. a few minutes later, the light bulb went off. Upon inspection, there was a hole where the Ed Brown HC extractor was supposed to be. It worked surprisingly well without it. |
| I saw the gun for just a few minutes and we were able to reproduce numerous type II feedway stoppages including the hi-angle or 3 point stoppage. We tried with both CMC Power Mags and with Wilson 47ds. I do not know for sure whether the gun ran fine before the IonBond coating or not. I'm just going off what I was told. We also did not remove the extractor to test the cycling/feeding of the gun/rounds. I was just curious if the coating could have altered the feed ramp surface or extractor tension. Sounds like something other than the coating is the culprit. |