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8/18/2009 12:57:09 PM EDT
I have owned 5 1911's and still dont know what the difference is between these. Then again I have never owned a Colt. Can someone please enlighten me.

Thanks
8/18/2009 1:03:35 PM EDT
[#1]
The safety mechanism for one.
I think there is one other difference................. I think
8/18/2009 1:09:09 PM EDT
[#2]
Laymen terms or actual?

8/18/2009 1:13:51 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Laymen terms or actual?



Both?

8/18/2009 1:34:24 PM EDT
[#4]
There are several additional parts in the series 80 trigger mechanism.  It is supposed to "correct" the "flaw" that if you drop a loaded 1911 on the muzzle on cement it could go off.  It makes the trigger pull worse and more parts to break.
8/18/2009 1:47:07 PM EDT
[#5]
The Series 70 colt introduced an accurizer barrel with a collet bushing. Only produced in the Government and Gold Cup Models.



Series 70 accurizer barrel










Collet bushing on right





The Series 80 originally continued the series 70 modification and added a trigger actuated firing in block.








Shortly after introduction of the firing pin block Colt discontinued using the accurizer barrel and collet bushing and returned to the pre series 70 configuration.
8/18/2009 3:04:09 PM EDT
[#6]
Susinct and with pictures.  Maybe you ought to sticky that one SGB.
8/18/2009 4:37:25 PM EDT
[#7]
I am mainly asking because alot of the parts I am looking to buy ask for either Series 70 or 80 (beavertail)
8/18/2009 4:59:16 PM EDT
[#8]
Good rule of thumb, If you do not have a colt 80 series, buy the 70 series parts.

SGB posted the true difference.

Just about every else uses 70 series as generic descerption for no extra safties added to the 1911.  Untill recently you had the Colt 80 series saftey and every other manuf made a M1911a1 type clone. these Clones became to be called 70 series type guns. Tech incorrect, but it caught on.

Now you have Swartz system and you do not want the swartz to be with you.  Colt chose not to go into full production with this saftey system way back in 1938 for a reason.
8/19/2009 5:31:09 AM EDT
[#9]
Many people stay away from the series 80 stuff because they are seen as unnecessary to the function of the pistol and they're just more parts to break.

That said, it can be removed, and that fact has me thinking about the possibility of getting a Colt XSE.

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8/19/2009 5:59:02 AM EDT
[#10]
I have a series 80.
Trigger is not terrible but you notice a difference between it and the 70.
I have been told you can convert a series 80 into a 70 buy buying & installing the parts.
8/19/2009 7:18:20 AM EDT
[#11]




Quoted:

I have a series 80.

Trigger is not terrible but you notice a difference between it and the 70.

I have been told you can convert a series 80 into a 70 buy buying & installing the parts.




They also work just fine if you simply remove the series 80 parts.
8/22/2009 8:37:43 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I have a series 80.
Trigger is not terrible but you notice a difference between it and the 70.
I have been told you can convert a series 80 into a 70 buy buying & installing the parts.


They also work just fine if you simply remove the series 80 parts.






Is that true of a Para-Ordnance as well?

I've got a P12 that I just detailed stripped, and 2 parts came out of the lower that are new to me. My other 1911 is a Colt that I've had for 30 years.
8/22/2009 9:47:55 PM EDT
[#13]



Quoted:


Many people stay away from the series 80 stuff because they are seen as unnecessary to the function of the pistol and they're just more parts to break.



That said, it can be removed, and that fact has me thinking about the possibility of getting a Colt XSE.



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I bought the C&S TiN coated series 80 parts.  It does feel slightly smoother (less gritty)to me, but it could just be me.



 
8/23/2009 11:09:31 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Quoted:
I have a series 80.
Trigger is not terrible but you notice a difference between it and the 70.
I have been told you can convert a series 80 into a 70 buy buying & installing the parts.


They also work just fine if you simply remove the series 80 parts.






Is that true of a Para-Ordnance as well?

I've got a P12 that I just detailed stripped, and 2 parts came out of the lower that are new to me. My other 1911 is a Colt that I've had for 30 years.


You will need those 2 parts if you want the gun to fire.
You could purchase a spacer plate and also remove the extra parts in the slide if you want to due away with the extra safety system.  I just don't see the need.
8/24/2009 11:03:47 AM EDT
[#15]
Is there a tutorial on how to remove the series 80 unneeded parts?
8/24/2009 11:52:39 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Is there a tutorial on how to remove the series 80 unneeded parts?


None that I know of.
9/2/2009 4:23:02 PM EDT
[#17]
Great info and pics, thanks for sharing
9/2/2009 4:51:11 PM EDT
[#18]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Is there a tutorial on how to remove the series 80 unneeded parts?




None that I know of.



I'll try and put one together and put it in the FAQ in the next couple of days.





 
9/3/2009 4:15:00 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Is there a tutorial on how to remove the series 80 unneeded parts?


I did it on my PT1911.
If I can do it, anybody can.
Once disassembled, with parts in hand, it was self-explanitory. (I'm speaking about converting series 80 style to 70 style).

9/10/2009 2:15:49 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Is there a tutorial on how to remove the series 80 unneeded parts?
When doing  a detailed disassembly, remove the shaded parts . . .




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn82Yotw42Y&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftechnorati%2Ecom%2Fvideos%2Fyoutube%2Ecom%252Fwatch%253Fv%253DKn82Yotw42Y&feature=player_embedded#t=13

replace with this ONE part where the two lower parts were . . . (the hole in the slide where the upper shaded parts were does not need filling)
http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/skus/p_876011780_1.jpg