Posted: 4/10/2009 10:38:27 AM EDT
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I picked up a 1911 that was on consignement at a local gun shop for $400. It was US property marked and the slide is clearly marked Remington Rand. The serial number on the frame (1206XXX) seems to be from a 1943 Colt. The previous owner had replaced the sights with modern night sights, but included the original rear sight. The original rear sight is adjustable and marked "micro" in script. The sight doesn't have the circular armorers mark on the oposite side. The trigger has also been modernized.
What did I get? Is it some sort of frankensteined Colt frame with Remington Rand National Match slide? Is it a legitimate remington rand national match? Also, if it is a national match, where can i fined the original parts necessary to restore it to original condition? NM Trigger and NM front sight (sorry gun's currently at my dads house so no pics) |
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Don't know where you are getting the NM, maybe off the barrel? The frame is a 1944 colt military serial #. Probably re-arsenal'd while still in service. I'm getting the national match from the fact that it came with national match sights on it. It came with a poloroid of the pistol in original configuration, which included the rear "micro" sight and front blade. looked just like this http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=123152519 ETA: i'm thinking that the slide was added much later due to the edjustable sights, maybe 55ish. is there any way to positively date a slide? |
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is there any way to positively date a slide?
Not really. If it is an RR slide, then it would be from either WWI or WWII, they didn't do commercial production inbetween. You can tell which by the marks on the slide. But very likely it's an early example of a parts gun (aka "Frankengun") put together on surplus GI parts, or a "mixmaster" from a US Army arsenal rebuild. If you get some detailed pictures we can be more helpful. |
| It's a parts gun or a "civilianized" USGI 1911A1. Worth what it is as a shooter unless you replace the original parts. If the rear sight and the trigger is all they messed with then it'll be pretty easy to put back into correct shape. Until stripped down and the small parts inspected, you don't really know how many other non GI parts are in it. |
| The slide and frame were probably put together during a rebuild while the pistol was in service. Or, could have been done on the unit level or by anyone at any time. Same for the sights - probably a local gunsmith somewhere, somewhen. Look for a rebuild mark which could serve to legitimize the mixed parts. It would consist of some initials on the frame in the trigger guard area, like 'AA' or 'RIA' for example. Who was the inspector? does it have 'GHD' behind the trigger on the LH side? |