Posted: 1/15/2009 6:53:28 AM EDT
| I have a cheaper 1911 (its what I can afford so its what I bought) but when I release the slide it pushes the shell out of the mag but hangs up about a half inch from fully closed it works well for the most part when firing and cycling but that first load seems to hang pretty consistantly. Would a stronger recoil spring fix this problem? It is a used gun so I've been thinking maybe it's just wore and weak. Any other tips would be great as well. I've already polished the feed ramps so that shouldn't be the problem. thanks in advance |
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I have a cheaper 1911 (its what I can afford so its what I bought) but when I release the slide it pushes the shell out of the mag but hangs up about a half inch from fully closed it works well for the most part when firing and cycling but that first load seems to hang pretty consistantly. Would a stronger recoil spring fix this problem? It is a used gun so I've been thinking maybe it's just wore and weak. Any other tips would be great as well. I've already polished the feed ramps so that shouldn't be the problem. thanks in advance Don't release the slide, have the slide closed then load the mag then rack.pull slide back & hold on to it & push the slide to the closed position while it loads the round into the chamber. Try that & if it still cycles when firing..problem solved 
I've got one that does the same thing, cycles fine when firing but if I just let the slide try to load a round on it's own part of the time the slide will lock up with the round only half way to it's destination. But once it's loaded & is fired, it cycles perfect never hanging up, so I don't worry about it 
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I have a cheaper 1911 (its what I can afford so its what I bought) but when I release the slide it pushes the shell out of the mag but hangs up about a half inch from fully closed it works well for the most part when firing and cycling but that first load seems to hang pretty consistantly. Would a stronger recoil spring fix this problem? It is a used gun so I've been thinking maybe it's just wore and weak. Any other tips would be great as well. I've already polished the feed ramps so that shouldn't be the problem. thanks in advance Don't release the slide, have the slide closed then load the mag then rack.pull slide back & hold on to it & push the slide to the closed position while it loads the round into the chamber. Try that & if it still cycles when firing..problem solved 
I've got one that does the same thing, cycles fine when firing but if I just let the slide try to load a round on it's own part of the time the slide will lock up with the round only half way to it's destination. But once it's loaded & is fired, it cycles perfect never hanging up, so I don't worry about it I prefer to have my guns work as designed. |
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I have a cheaper 1911 (its what I can afford so its what I bought) but when I release the slide it pushes the shell out of the mag but hangs up about a half inch from fully closed it works well for the most part when firing and cycling but that first load seems to hang pretty consistantly. Would a stronger recoil spring fix this problem? It is a used gun so I've been thinking maybe it's just wore and weak. Any other tips would be great as well. I've already polished the feed ramps so that shouldn't be the problem. thanks in advance Don't release the slide, have the slide closed then load the mag then rack.pull slide back & hold on to it & push the slide to the closed position while it loads the round into the chamber. Try that & if it still cycles when firing..problem solved
I've got one that does the same thing, cycles fine when firing but if I just let the slide try to load a round on it's own part of the time the slide will lock up with the round only half way to it's destination. But once it's loaded & is fired, it cycles perfect never hanging up, so I don't worry about it I prefer to have my guns work as designed. Oh yea if this was my carry I would worry but it's just an old range gun the kind you let friends borrow....lol .. |
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The mag is a chip mccormick all the methods you guys have mentioned haven't worked without a palm jam to finish the chambering. Would the recoil spring help with this? I'm using ball ammo also. If it's a used gun, you should replace the recoil spring. It's a 5-10 dollar part and then you know for a fact what the rounbd count is on the spring and when it needs to be replaced again. One of the easiest, least expensive, smartest things you can do with a used handgun. As it sits now you have next to zero idea what spring is in it now. Did the guy only shoot light target loads? Would have a reduced power spring, bad for standard loads. Is it the original spring with 4k rounds on it? It's worn out. People mess with springs all of the time. Put a standard weight, new spring in and you have a known baseline to work from. |
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I have a cheaper 1911 (its what I can afford so its what I bought) but when I release the slide it pushes the shell out of the mag but hangs up about a half inch from fully closed it works well for the most part when firing and cycling but that first load seems to hang pretty consistantly. Would a stronger recoil spring fix this problem? It is a used gun so I've been thinking maybe it's just wore and weak. Any other tips would be great as well. I've already polished the feed ramps so that shouldn't be the problem. thanks in advance Don't release the slide, have the slide closed then load the mag then rack.pull slide back & hold on to it & push the slide to the closed position while it loads the round into the chamber. Try that & if it still cycles when firing..problem solved
I've got one that does the same thing, cycles fine when firing but if I just let the slide try to load a round on it's own part of the time the slide will lock up with the round only half way to it's destination. But once it's loaded & is fired, it cycles perfect never hanging up, so I don't worry about it What you are suggesting is "riding the slide". Sorry, but that is the exact opposite of what he should do. |
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I have a cheaper 1911 (its what I can afford so its what I bought) but when I release the slide it pushes the shell out of the mag but hangs up about a half inch from fully closed it works well for the most part when firing and cycling but that first load seems to hang pretty consistantly. Would a stronger recoil spring fix this problem? It is a used gun so I've been thinking maybe it's just wore and weak. Any other tips would be great as well. I've already polished the feed ramps so that shouldn't be the problem. thanks in advance Don't release the slide, have the slide closed then load the mag then rack.pull slide back & hold on to it & push the slide to the closed position while it loads the round into the chamber. Try that & if it still cycles when firing..problem solved
I've got one that does the same thing, cycles fine when firing but if I just let the slide try to load a round on it's own part of the time the slide will lock up with the round only half way to it's destination. But once it's loaded & is fired, it cycles perfect never hanging up, so I don't worry about it What you are suggesting is "riding the slide". Sorry, but that is the exact opposite of what he should do. I just meant to give it a little help to see if it worked. I thought if it loaded then maybe it was just the mag & not the pistol. Didn't you forget something? What should he be doing? So I can try it on that old pistol that I have to see if it works? |
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Semi auto pistols are designed to drop the slide on a loaded magazine. If his gun malfunctions in that way, there is something seriously wrong with his gun and warrants a trip to the gunsmith.
Riding the slide in the middle of a firefight can be problematic. 1. You typically have to ride just right for the round to feed 2. Lotsa stress in a firefight. 1 and 2 don't mix too well. |
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What you are suggesting is "riding the slide". Sorry, but that is the exact opposite of what he should do. Correct. You should, throughly inspect the rails, breech and rear of the frame for any burrs or obstructions (but if it closes on the rest of the mag I doubt this is the problem). You should then replace the recoil spring as I mentioned above. The third variable is the magazine but I doubt that it's a worn mag spring. Quite the contrary actually. Are you overloading the mag? There are magazines out there that you can squeeeeeeeze one extra round into. This would result in unacceptably high tension on round #1, thus making it more difficult to strip off the the top. |
............... start simple, eliminate one potential source at a time. Replace your recoil spring with a new 16 - 18 lb spring and report back if the problem continues.