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4/17/2008 2:30:39 PM EDT
Would some one please explain the difference between: full size, government, commander, officers, compact?  I'm assuming it has something to do with barrel and grip length.  I have a Kimber Pro Carry II and if I want to get accessories, what will work with what I have?  
4/17/2008 3:12:07 PM EDT
[#1]

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Would some one please explain the difference between: full size, government, commander, officers, compact?  I'm assuming it has something to do with barrel and grip length.  I have a Kimber Pro Carry II and if I want to get accessories, what will work with what I have?  


Fullsize = Government = 5" barrel, fullsize grip frame
Commander = 4.25" barrel, fullsize grip frame
Officers = 3" barrel, compact grip frame

Pro = a term used by Kimber.  Uses a 4" bull barrel and a fullsize grip frame.
Compact = a term used by Kimber.  Uses a 4" bull barrel and a compact frame.
Ultra = a term used by Kimber.  Uses a 3" bull barrel and a compact grip frame.

Champion = a term used by Springfield Armory.  Uses a 4" bull barrel and a fullsize grip frame.
Ultra = a term used by SA.  Uses a 3.5" bull barrel and a compact grip frame.
Micro = a term used by SA.  Uses a 3" bull barrel and a compact grip frame.
4/17/2008 4:28:08 PM EDT
[#2]
Hey thanks!  So I assume that means I can buy a holster for my Pro Carry that says it fits commander models?  It will just be a quarter inch longer than I need.  Right?
4/17/2008 4:32:37 PM EDT
[#3]

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Hey thanks!  So I assume that means I can buy a holster for my Pro Carry that says it fits commander models?  It will just be a quarter inch longer than I need.  Right?


Correct.
4/17/2008 4:47:42 PM EDT
[#4]
Thanks again.  This site is great!
4/17/2008 5:23:23 PM EDT
[#5]
One got left out of the above:

CCO = Concealed Carry Officer's = 4.25" barrel on a compact frame

ETA - Officer's is a 3.5" barrel. The Defender is a 3" barrel.
4/17/2008 6:14:46 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Hey thanks!  So I assume that means I can buy a holster for my Pro Carry that says it fits commander models?  It will just be a quarter inch longer than I need.  Right?


Honestly, this 1911 Forum is what keeps bringing me back to AR15.

SGB runs it extremely well, and I've told him several times. He's patient, actively participates, moderates, he runs it very well, it's very well organized and a lot of thought has been put into it.

I mean I realize he may have to come down on me for something some day, I can't imagine what, but, He's a extremely level-headed guy, ocean of knowledge, but anyway.
4/17/2008 7:11:02 PM EDT
[#7]

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Honestly, this 1911 Forum is what keeps bringing me back to AR15.

SGB runs it extremely well, and I've told him several times. He's patient, actively participates, moderates, he runs it very well, it's very well organized and a lot of thought has been put into it.

I mean I realize he may have to come down on me for something some day, I can't imagine what, but, He's a extremely level-headed guy, ocean of knowledge, but anyway.


A BIG +1 to that.

I put a lot of faith into what SGB says.  There are several others here in the 1911 forum that I hold in high regard as well, but there's no point in swellin heads...    I think they know who they are  
4/17/2008 10:05:15 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Honestly, this 1911 Forum is what keeps bringing me back to AR15.

SGB runs it extremely well, and I've told him several times. He's patient, actively participates, moderates, he runs it very well, it's very well organized and a lot of thought has been put into it.

I mean I realize he may have to come down on me for something some day, I can't imagine what, but, He's a extremely level-headed guy, ocean of knowledge, but anyway.


A BIG +1 to that.

I put a lot of faith into what SGB says.  There are several others here in the 1911 forum that I hold in high regard as well, but there's no point in swellin heads...    I think they know who they are  


+2
4/18/2008 12:48:07 AM EDT
[#9]
........... Thanks guys.
4/18/2008 3:09:16 AM EDT
[#10]
a little more info

A Colt Commander has an aluminum frame

A Colt Combat Commander has a steel frame

25 plus years ago the word was that sometimes the Commander frames would crack at the hole in the frame where the slide release pin goes through it.
4/18/2008 5:58:45 AM EDT
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A Colt Commander has an aluminum frame

A Colt Combat Commander has a steel frame


^^^   That I didn't know...  

Every day...   somethin' new...   you know how it goes    
4/18/2008 7:06:38 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
a little more info

A Colt Commander has an aluminum frame

A Colt Combat Commander has a steel frame

25 plus years ago the word was that sometimes the Commander frames would crack at the hole in the frame where the slide release pin goes through it.


FYI, current-production Colt terminology has changed to Lightweight Commander (aluminum) versus Commander (steel).
4/18/2008 8:09:45 AM EDT
[#13]

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One got left out of the above:

CCO = Concealed Carry Officer's = 4.25" barrel on a compact frame

ETA - Officer's is a 3.5" barrel. The Defender is a 3" barrel.


I carry a CCO and think it's a great combo. I was going to post it since Bullitt forgot about it, but you beat me to it.