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12/11/2007 2:06:53 PM EDT
I have been looking at a Colt Gold Cup trophy in a stainless finish (maybe nickel).  Do these have a good collectors value?  Are they likely to go up in value, unlike many other mass produced firearms?  I have a matching pair of Woodsmans and 73 nickel python that are like NIB and I was thinking about adding a GC to the collection.

Thanks...
12/11/2007 2:28:53 PM EDT
[#1]
Two things drive value: demand & rariety.

For the GC, there's not too much demand it would seem. Rariety would seem to be hit or miss, but I'm not qualified to make that call, personally.

The best thing I can tell ya is, if YOU like the gun, buy it & worry about collectibility later, if at all.    

My .o2  
12/11/2007 2:34:43 PM EDT
[#2]
Just getting into the Gold Cup business myself.  I'm sure the Trophy series are fine guns, but I'm guessing it will be quite a while before they start appreciating in value.
Better bets might include Series 70 and prior, GCNMs.  The really nice ones are selling for 3-5X their original purchase prices--although this is over a 20-30 year period, which doesn't make them very good financial investments. It's pretty clear that any mods done, severely degrade the value of the pieces as "collectors" items.

I would tune into the 1911 sites--1911forum.com, coltforum.com, as well as the on-line gun auctions to get a feel for relative values.
12/11/2007 2:56:10 PM EDT
[#3]
You buy and collect guns because you LIKE to, not to make a profit. IF that happens then yippee!!! If not, then you had the pleasure to own a collection of firearms you liked during your lifetime.

A "collection" should have some kind of theme, be it a certain brand, type, or style.
12/11/2007 4:27:36 PM EDT
[#4]
One in Stainless made my very last narrow down to two list.

It would have won out had happenstance not determined otherwise.

Not that I know anything specific. Just found it to be something that filled all my needs.
12/11/2007 8:10:31 PM EDT
[#5]
Series 70 in SS, jump on it.
But remember that the pistol is set up for match loads, not ball ammo.

New Colt Gold Cup, not worth the effect since for the price you can pick up another brand that will out shoot it and is put together a lot better. (SA trophy match comes to mind since you don't have to screw around/disable a FP block like on the new colts that requires long trigger creep/take up to work).

P.S. My first match pistol was a CM1970 so its not that I don't like Colts as a whole, just not the crap that they have been shoving out the door in the last 10 years.
12/12/2007 2:54:25 AM EDT
[#6]

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... you don't have to screw around/disable a FP block like on the new colts that requires long trigger creep/take up to work....


Hmmm...mine don't act that way and none have anything disabled. Maybe I'm just lucky or maybe the nonsense about S80 triggers being bad is just that; nonsense. Hmmm...
12/12/2007 3:00:59 AM EDT
[#7]
New production Gold cups are called Tin cups from bullseye  shooters.
12/12/2007 3:39:29 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
New production Gold cups are called Tin cups from bullseye  shooters.


...and no S70 Gold Cups were stainless.
12/12/2007 9:26:42 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
New production Gold cups are called Tin cups from bullseye  shooters.


...and no S70 Gold Cups were stainless.


Point well taken, I should have stated Pre-80's FP block model.
12/12/2007 10:03:26 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
... you don't have to screw around/disable a FP block like on the new colts that requires long trigger creep/take up to work....


Hmmm...mine don't act that way and none have anything disabled. Maybe I'm just lucky or maybe the nonsense about S80 triggers being bad is just that; nonsense. Hmmm...


Really, a 1911 set up correctly only needs about 1/4" total trigger movement (from at-rest-to the stop). The best I have seen so far with a Colt FP block assembly very-tuned is still around 3/8, meaning that there is still creep in the system before even reaching the break wall.  Most of the factory tuned Colt FP block pistols I have found are well into 1/2" or greater total trigger needed pull length, which doesn't mean much for single shot type target shooting when you have all the time in the world to move the trigger back until you reach the break point/ tension wall, but when it's run and gun games, the extra trigger take-up length leads you into yanking on the trigger verses just tapping it for ignition (2 lb crisp trigger) once the target is acquired/to keep your run times low.  

12/12/2007 1:05:24 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
... you don't have to screw around/disable a FP block like on the new colts that requires long trigger creep/take up to work....


Hmmm...mine don't act that way and none have anything disabled. Maybe I'm just lucky or maybe the nonsense about S80 triggers being bad is just that; nonsense. Hmmm...    


Really, a 1911 set up correctly only needs about 1/4" total trigger movement (from at-rest-to the stop). The best I have seen so far with a Colt FP block assembly very-tuned is still around 3/8, meaning that there is still creep in the system before even reaching the break wall.  Most of the factory tuned Colt FP block pistols I have found are well into 1/2" or greater total trigger needed pull length, which doesn't mean much for single shot type target shooting when you have all the time in the world to move the trigger back until you reach the break point/ tension wall, but when it's run and gun games, the extra trigger take-up length leads you into yanking on the trigger verses just tapping it for ignition (2 lb crisp trigger) once the target is acquired/to keep your run times low.  


Really, really.