1911 (not A1) thread (Page 4 of 6)
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Originally Posted By zaskar017: http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z248/zaskar017/marion/DSCF0118.jpg 1918 with an incorrect MSH ETA: not mine, but one I volunteered to clean with flat MSH  |
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Originally Posted By montana_jeepn:
1952 Colt 1911, Unfired, in original box http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/montana_jeepn/pic067.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/montana_jeepn/pic066.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/montana_jeepn/pic070.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/montana_jeepn/pic071.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/montana_jeepn/pic067.jpg I don't believe your beautiful pistol should be in this thread. Your gun is an "A1" model. It has an arched mainspring housing, short trigger, the later style hamer, and later safety to start. Still it's very nice. |
What is the right number of guns? JUST ONE MORE!!
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This is the same gun, I don't know why some pictures are black and some are the brownish which is how it looks. My grandfather bought this gun & Colt says it was made in 1912, the archival paper confirms it.
the gun was delivered to a hardware store in 1912 in a shipment of 1 of 1 shipped. The barrel is bright shinny and has no pitting, the slide has some pitting next to the patent data. Does Anyone have a clue to what a 1912, Government Model 1911 civilian is worth monetarily? just a ballpark idea will do, I also have the Colt Archival papers with it. The pistol has a bright shiny barrel and shoots like it was made yesterday and all original. The only drawback is some pitting on the slide next to the patent data, and it looks like someone tried to blue it like 50 years ago but has the brown patina it is supposed to, it has been used but not too much My family is the original owners. that is it over? OH! it has a four digit serial number 
   
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Originally Posted By montana_jeepn:
1952 Colt 1911, Unfired, in original box http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/montana_jeepn/pic067.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/montana_jeepn/pic066.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/montana_jeepn/pic070.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/montana_jeepn/pic071.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/montana_jeepn/pic067.jpg wow... what did that cost you? |
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love those old ones with the been there done that look keep up the pics- only one I had I traded off some years ago- my orignal price in the eraly 1990's $250!
ended up trading it for a mint in the box single action army -good deal for both parties but do miss that old gun- 70% or so finish 1917 era. |
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Just picked this one up. It's my only M1911, and it came from a friend's father's estate. He was a Lt. in WWII and had this ever since. Of course it's a 1918 so it probably missed WWI but most likely was either issued or remained in an armory until WWII, or some combination of use/storage. Nobody in the vet's family wanted it so I pounced. My first thought was to just flip it and take the profit (got it for $500) but after working it over with Ballistol the inevitable bonding had started, so now it's going to stay just like it is. I originally wanted a 1911 either mil or Government Model because my paternal grandfather was said to have one but it was lost to the family before I ever laid eyes on it. So, I thought if I could get a half-decent one for around $500 I would keep it in honor of him. The more I get my hands on this, the more I like it just like it is. BTW, Ballistol is the stuff for old guns as well as any that shoot corrosive. It works on the rust over time, lubricates, cleans and preserves, and is good for wood or even plastic. The treatment for this one will be more Ballistol and a soft cotton cloth every 30 days or so. And no shooting.
ETA: Forgot that I had posted it before when I had it in for a safety check, but now that it's mine, I guess it was okay to show a few more angles. 
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Originally Posted By F14ADC: Can someone post a picture of an SA slide? Ralph   not mine, taken from here http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=34750 |
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1952 Colt 1911, Unfired, in original box It hurts, all this want. Beautiful piece. Cheers, Jack |
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Originally Posted By TrkyHunter:
This is the same gun, I don't know why some pictures are black and some are the brownish which is how it looks. My grandfather bought this gun & Colt says it was made in 1912, the archival paper confirms it. the gun was delivered to a hardware store in 1912 in a shipment of 1 of 1 shipped. The barrel is bright shinny and has no pitting, the slide has some pitting next to the patent data. Does Anyone have a clue to what a 1912, Government Model 1911 civilian is worth monetarily? just a ballpark idea will do, I also have the Colt Archival papers with it. The pistol has a bright shiny barrel and shoots like it was made yesterday and all original. The only drawback is some pitting on the slide next to the patent data, and it looks like someone tried to blue it like 50 years ago but has the brown patina it is supposed to, it has been used but not too much My family is the original owners. that is it over? OH! it has a four digit serial number
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m68/ttriffic-2/033.jpghttp://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m68/ttriffic-2/023.jpg http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m68/ttriffic-2/025.gifhttp://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m68/ttriffic-2/001.jpg Wow, that is awesome! It's worth a lot, probably close to $2K monetarily. It looks all original, but it is in fair shape. However, you must keep this gun and pass it down. For nothing other than to show that your family had a great taste in firearms in 1912. |
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Originally Posted By JeredMD:
My 1st Colt that I received on the 100th Bday =) http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x247/jerede/pix733090836.jpg http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x247/jerede/pix704168040.jpg http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x247/jerede/pix825791582.jpg http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x247/jerede/pix417964684.jpg Black Army? Very, very nice! |
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Originally Posted By zaskar017:
Originally Posted By 86HMMWV:
Black Army? Very, very nice! 1st run of carbonia blue Yep, the finish is just amazing. I think it looks better than my other 3 1911's easily. |
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Mine is below, I believe it is 1919ish. It had been in my wifes family for about 40 years until we inherited it.
I have the correct diamond grips but, have the Pachmayr grips on it as they are very comfortable to shoot. It operates and fires like a champ, you'd never realize it is close to 100 years old. However, somewhere along it's life it picked up these adjustable sights. I'd like to go back to the regular USGI sights however, looking at the wonderful photos of all the other 1911's it seems that when those sights were installed that some material may have been machined out of the slide to facilitate them. 
The other thing is the barrel is not original to the gun so, I guess that "devalues" it in pure collector terms. My wife and I were still dating and out shooting to where we realized it couldn't hold a 5 inch group at 5 yards! It had so many rounds in it over the past 75 years that the rifling in the barrel was merely a suggestion. So, I was still on Active Duty in the branch that didn't fully transition to the Beretta until the early 90's.Low and behold my issued 1911A1 had about an armory fresh barrel. You can figure the rest of the story from there! 
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Originally Posted By captain127: 1saxman- replace the recoil spring, load up some light target loads and shoot that 1911- with standard pressure or light target ammo you won't hurt a 1911 and it is a shame for it not to be shot- it is not like it is a mint example or something. So if he cracks his slide, are you going to find him a 1918 produced one in matching finish and pay for it? Its not like it would be hard to find or anything, being its not a mint example or something  He has other 1911 pistols to shoot, and understands what he has with his Colt M1911 |
| zaskar- just saying lots of these guns get fired all the time with no damage- I have shot a lot fo them in my time and with standard pressure loads the risk is VERY low. Not that damage is impossible of course but limited shooting with standard prssure ammo does not hurt them. I would not feel they are at any great risk to get hurt just because they are old. |
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After much deliberation I finally settled on a suitable 1911 to commemorate the 100 year anniversary. I initially thought that the "Tier III Anniversary Model" would be a no-brainer, but the rollmarks are kind of gumpy. I then toyed with just getting a 1991 or Series 70 Repro with the "100 Years of Service" rollmark, but once again... gumpy.
This is what I found; a 1911 WWI Commemorative. What I like most about this version is that one of the patent dates is FEB14,1911. I was born on Feb14, so it's a sign straight from JMB. :D I got it off of GB from a shop in Alabama. It was 'used' but looked virtually un-fired. No matter to me, since I intend on shooting the snot out of it. Happy to see that everything was machined properly, no off-center recoil plugs or anything. Shot it a bit and was able bore a single hole at 7 yards, and kept them within 4" at 15 yards. 2Mp iPhone pics w/ a little iPhoto tweaking: 
I bought her for shootin' though, so she promptly got an A1 grip safety and short trigger. 
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Originally Posted By Colt_M4:
My 1919 manufactured model 1911. 100% fully engraved with elephant ivory grips http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/lawdog530/Picture_032.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/lawdog530/Picture_033.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/lawdog530/Picture_031.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/lawdog530/Picture_029.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/lawdog530/Picture_030.jpg Your engraved Colt is beautiful. The combination of engraving and polished blue is awesome. |
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Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
Here's my warhorse. Still on duty, serving my family. Made in 1918, last fired a few days ago. Reworked by Augusta Arsenal in 1964, and then sold via an NRA/DCM sale in 1964, to my father, for the princely sum of 14 dollars. 
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l234/cmjohnson65/DSC_0552.jpg http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l234/cmjohnson65/DSC_0550.jpg http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l234/cmjohnson65/DSC_0549.jpg http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l234/cmjohnson65/DSC_0548.jpg http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l234/cmjohnson65/DSC_0547.jpg I need to get a "correct" crosshatched plunger for it and it's probably due for a new recoil spring. And I'm not sure that the trigger is correct but that's what it's had for as long as I can remember. I see now, and for the first time, understand that my 1911 has an A1 safety and an A1 trigger. Does anyone else see anything else about it that's not 'correct" for an original 1911? (Aside from the fact that it was arsenal refinished, that is.) It eats only ball ammo, as it was designed for. CJ I have No. 382295, still original. And unlike the beautiful engraved Colt, this one really is fugly - it had the 'Black Army' finish which wore completely off the frame and slide. It was driving me crazy so I fired it today, five rounds. Everything good, and good accuracy. No more firing, but as I may be thinking of moving it out, I had to know. I saw no reason to not fire it from my inspection. I did replace the recoil and firing pin springs as they were goners. It belonged to a friend's dad who was issued it at the beginning of WWII and had it until he died recently - the family didn't want it! Other than that, I know it was shipped July, 1918 to the Ordnance Dep't at Bush Terminal, Brooklyn Navy Yard and presumably issued in France. No clue from then to WWII.
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| You know, looking this thread over again, I see that I posted my 1918 THREE TIMES! Sorry 'bout that. But the thing is, have you noticed how each one of these M1911s have developed their own 'personality' after more than 90 years in use, storage, a barn, whatever. Two can be similar, but not just alike. |
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Hey, the markings are good and you have the serial number and 'US Property' intact. Very many had these critical markings ground off when the nickel plating was done. Looks like original grips and small parts, too. What, if anything, is visible on the barrel hood? If nothing, take the barrel out and look for markings. If it has the original barrel too, it might be worth having the nickel 'de-plated' and the gun carefully polished and blued. Otherwise, you found yourself a nice 'bobbycue' gun.
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=49&t=111018
It has the correct HP barrel. |
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Here is my contribution to all this history. Made in 1919. Just to show that you can still get lucky, this old soldier was purchased at a garage sale for $300. No, it wasn't laying out on a picnic table. If the situation looks right, I slowly get around to asking, "you got any ole antique firearms around you would like to get rid of? I collect 'em."  Most of the time it's no. but sometimes... I took it to a friend who is an expert on 45's. He disasseblied it and confirmed it was all still original as built with the exception of the barrel. He said it was probably changed around WWII. Then he took it to the range and shot the group in the picture. He said the trigger was on the "heavy" side, but the results speak for themselves. It is now retired to my display for my viewing pleasure.
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Originally Posted By Sp5_RADAR:
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u320/sp5_radar/colt19110009.jpg Here is my contribution to all this history. Made in 1919. Just to show that you can still get lucky, this old soldier was purchased at a garage sale for $300. No, it wasn't laying out on a picnic table. If the situation looks right, I slowly get around to asking, "you got any ole antique firearms around you would like to get rid of? I collect 'em." Most of the time it's no. but sometimes... I took it to a friend who is an expert on 45's. He disasseblied it and confirmed it was all still original as built with the exception of the barrel. He said it was probably changed around WWII. Then he took it to the range and shot the group in the picture. He said the trigger was on the "heavy" side, but the results speak for themselves. It is now retired to my display for my viewing pleasure.That's awesome! |
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Originally Posted By Sp5_RADAR:
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u320/sp5_radar/colt19110009.jpg Here is my contribution to all this history. Made in 1919. Just to show that you can still get lucky, this old soldier was purchased at a garage sale for $300. No, it wasn't laying out on a picnic table. If the situation looks right, I slowly get around to asking, "you got any ole antique firearms around you would like to get rid of? I collect 'em." Most of the time it's no. but sometimes... I took it to a friend who is an expert on 45's. He disasseblied it and confirmed it was all still original as built with the exception of the barrel. He said it was probably changed around WWII. Then he took it to the range and shot the group in the picture. He said the trigger was on the "heavy" side, but the results speak for themselves. It is now retired to my display for my viewing pleasure.BEAUTIFUL! Congrats on the find! |
Almost done.
Foster Industries 1911 frame Colt slide Barsto barrel and bushing Smith & Alexander smooth flat mainspring housing with lanyard loop Cylinder & Slide recoil spring plug Grip safety from a 1919-dated 1911 from eBay Checkered slide stop, checkered thumb safety and checkered wide hammer also off eBay where some guy was parting out his Colt 1911 Carbonia reproduction. 1943 grips from eBay Vickers internals Ed Brown pin set Been on it almost two years - test fired it for the first time this afternoon. Passed with flying colors. Will be sending it to Ident Marking for "UNITED STATES PROPERTY" on the dust cover, and will need to get the frame parkerized. Then re-assembled, tweak the hammer hooks a little and it will be good to go. |
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SWEET!! But isn't that an A1?
Originally Posted By montana_jeepn:
1952 Colt 1911, Unfired, in original box http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/montana_jeepn/pic067.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/montana_jeepn/pic066.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/montana_jeepn/pic070.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/montana_jeepn/pic071.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/montana_jeepn/pic067.jpg |
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Originally Posted By smokiexd45:
Figured I would post this here. backstory link posted in GD http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh174/smokiesmokie/DSC00994.jpg http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh174/smokiesmokie/DSC00995.jpg Awesome. Needs to be hit with a little break free though... |
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Couch has pics of mine up already but here is another one I got today at the gun show. 1918 Mfg date
Got some work ahead of me to do on her. Safety isn't working and needs new springs. 
ill get better "pretty pics" up here in the next few weeks as I work on her. =) |
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