Posted: 3/23/2007 4:52:21 PM EDT
| yeah, I do, really. Their 1911s look nice, the loaded models look like something I could really dig, the ones I have held and fired were very nice, BUT, I just CANT get over the Imbel made in brazil thing. I see that and its like a hot ass lady with a black rotted tooth in the middle of her face. Historically, were 1911s for the US Govt in WWII, etc , produced overseas for use by US forces? its funny, there are only a few pistols that I feel this way about, and one of the pistols that I have always seen as THE American handgun, the 1911, is one of them. So, convince me otherwise, help me like the damn things !! |
Get a Springfield with the NM prefix serial number, they have no Brazil or Imbel markings ( keep in mind that NM DOES NOT stand for National Match) The Mil Spec is the most common SA I have found with the NM (that is the Milspec model not to be confused with the GI WWII model) |
no the ejector is still loc-tited and that is the SINGLE reason why I wont buy another SA 1911. 
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I have a WW USGI model, made in brazil. SS # WW696XX and it has a PINNED ejector. Even the earlier ones with loctited ejectors are no problem, the ejector is captured by the slide. It can't go anywhere. For what its worth they didn't have industrial adhesivse like locktite in 1911 so the ejector was pinned. Either way it's not a big deal. If you want a Made In America Springfield look for an older milspec or loaded with the NM ser # prefix. Or you could buy the current TRP or MC Operator which are both made in the USA, have the NM prefix and no brazil stamped anywhere. |
Wait, so when did they start pinning them? My TRP operator I bought last year was loctited. I know it is not that big a deal but my friend with a loaded took it apart to clean it one day and the ejector just fell right out. It freaked me out, I got rid of the Operator and picked up the Warrior with the pinned ejector. I still think I liked the quality of the Operator better though. |
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Springfield does not locktite their ejectors or any other part that I know of. I have bought three in the last several months and non of them have locktite. Regarding Imbel, do some research on the subject and you will find that Imbel and associated companies have been in the arms business for many many years. Imbel supplies military's and markets all over the world. Brazialian steel is of the finest in the world, if not the best and their foundry's are considered top notch as well. Imbel produces many casting on firearms, including FN. I wouldn't worry a second about the brazialian stampings. |
Get over it, sir.  Hondas are made in Ohio, Toyotas will soon be made in Mississippi, BMWs are made in SC & Nissans in TN. We live in a world-wide economy these days. FWIW, only the frames are made there, the actual gun is fitted & finished in IL, a HUGELY anti-gun state, in case you didn't know. Now, which would you prefer to support????  For the record, I own 4 Springfields & use their Micro for my CCL. 
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And let me assure you: you will never get over it if this bothers you so much to begin with. Do your self a favor: look at other maker. Or, get one and take it to a "dentist"  to remove that rotten tooth.  Edit: My Champion (2000 SS model) has pinned ejector, also the "offending" markings are both under the grip panel and on the dust cover. |
| Well, I took the last piece of advice, thanks KK. I think I scored pretty well too. I picked up a NIB Kimber Custom today. Yep, thats right, a new, unfired, Custom, without the series II stuff. Not that I mind the series II stuff, I had a Custom II that didnt give me any problems. Anyway, I know this is useless without pics, so Ill try and borrow a digital camera and get some up. |
Kimbers with series II stuff dont exist in my world. Good buy, now go make a thread on your unfired custom ...oh and go shoot it! |