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1/19/2007 5:22:34 PM EDT
With so many big names out there such as Les Baer, Nighthawk, Wilson Combat, and Ed brown, im having a little trouble deciding on what to go through. My budget is around $2000 but will go a little bit overboard if needed.


I'm not too picky on accessories and such, I just want a well built reliable 1911 that will work with whatever I throw at it. Right now my eye is leaning torwards the Nighthawk GRP series, but I've got about a month to make up my mind so I'm just going to continue researching around until then.
1/19/2007 5:55:51 PM EDT
[#1]
Handle one of each to make your decision.  Honestly, there is no objective difference between any of these.  It is all about "feel".

I fondled them all, and went with Wilson.
1/19/2007 6:00:36 PM EDT
[#2]
In the $2K range, they're all quality, IMO. I would go by accuracy & Baer is the ONLY mfgr who offers an accuracy guarantee, IIRC?

That would answer my search.    
1/19/2007 7:48:34 PM EDT
[#3]
I was on a smaller budget and went with a Dan Wesson Pointman........slide, frame, barrel, bushing is awsome.....right on the money!!!! and the wallet!!!!!
1/19/2007 7:59:43 PM EDT
[#4]
I would go w/any of those that you listed. I own a Wilson Combat, plan on getting a Nighthawk fairly soon, and wouldn't mind an Ed Brown. I really don't have a desire to own a Les Baer although they are quality guns.

Look at the features/fit that you want and get the one that fits the bill the best.
1/19/2007 8:27:53 PM EDT
[#5]
Wilson guarantees accuracy also.  All are great, all are better than I need.  I choose Wilson because of their excellent service.  Also, the have combat in mind when they build pistols.
1/19/2007 9:07:31 PM EDT
[#6]
I can't say enough about my CQB.  To me, it's literally perfect.  I can't imagine a single thing it lacks that I would want.
1/20/2007 4:05:15 AM EDT
[#7]

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I can't say enough about my CQB.  To me, it's literally perfect.  I can't imagine a single thing it lacks that I would want.


Come on, haven't you secretly coveted a two-piece guide rod?

It is okay to admit it, we are all friends here
1/20/2007 5:28:22 AM EDT
[#8]
Ed Brown Special Forces $1995



Les Baer TRS $1748



Wilson Combat CQB $2185.00



NightHawk GRP $2195 *




I've handled and fired examples of all the above and they are all outstanding products, any of which I would proudly carry.

My personal preferance though would be the NightHawk GRP, but then that's just me.
1/20/2007 9:12:17 AM EDT
[#9]
Out of those I've only handled the CQB and the GRP, and the GRP definetly won my hand for that matter. I'm still really leaning torwards it atm
1/20/2007 9:41:06 AM EDT
[#10]
I still don't like the foward serrations. Pretty guns, though.
1/20/2007 9:56:54 AM EDT
[#11]

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I still don't like the foward serrations. Pretty guns, though.


That is one of the reasons I went with the Ed Brown.  My next will be a YoBo.
1/20/2007 10:04:04 AM EDT
[#12]
You can get them without the front serrations, but it is an extra $50(which isn't a big deal imo)
1/20/2007 10:01:24 PM EDT
[#13]
I don't think you would go wrong with any of the choices that are listed, as they are all fine handguns. If I had to choose, I'd get the Nighthawk GRP.
1/22/2007 5:36:30 PM EDT
[#14]
As of now I'm sold on the Talon 2 with the bobtail and barrel flush with the bushing

Won't be purchasing for the next month or so, until then I'll keep lookin around but I'm pretty positive this is what I'm doing to end up with.
1/22/2007 5:47:30 PM EDT
[#15]
Springfield Armory Professional
1/22/2007 5:50:58 PM EDT
[#16]
I'm going to have to +1 for the Les Baer TRS. It's a simple, no-nonsense combat 1911. Front strap checkering yields a positive grip, and the high grip keeps it very stable. My favorite feature, though, has got to be those grip panels. LBC went with slimline grips, which in wood are very elegant, and when in aluminum, are definitely functional and attractive.

It doesn't have a wonder-finish like Wilson Combat does, but there's something classy about a blued-steel 1911.




If you're willing to wait in line, look into Valtro 1911s.
1/22/2007 5:57:53 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
I'm going to have to +1 for the Les Baer TRS. It's a simple, no-nonsense combat 1911. Front strap checkering yields a positive grip, and the high grip keeps it very stable. My favorite feature, though, has got to be those grip panels. LBC went with slimline grips, which in wood are very elegant, and when in aluminum, are definitely functional and attractive.

It doesn't have a wonder-finish like Wilson Combat does, but there's something classy about a blued-steel 1911.

i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/mall-ninja/TRS2.jpg


If you're willing to wait in line, look into Valtro 1911s.


+2 on the Les Baer.

I picked up my Wilson CQB used and I love it.  That being said, if I was in the market for another 1911, I'd get a Les Baer (for diversity?).

Nighthawk?  For that kind of coin, IMO, the frames and slides should be forged.  Nighthawk is using Caspian cast slides and frames IIRC.

others will flame me for the cast vs. forged comment, but I've owned a cast pistol in the past (Para Ordnance) and didn't care for the casting voids in the underside of the slide.

With my kind of luck, I'd be the guy to drop a cast pistol and be the first to find a void in the frame.
1/23/2007 6:23:02 AM EDT
[#18]
The most important factor is what YOU want in a semi-custom 1911.  At this level it's hard to go wrong, so pick something YOU will be happy with.  For example, I like Baers, and if i were in the market for another $1500-2000 1911, would likely buy a TRS.  I don't particularly care for Wilson, Brown, or Nighthawk simply due to aesthetics.

It helps to be able to handle and shoot them all and make your decision based on that information.
1/23/2007 8:42:52 AM EDT
[#19]
The Baers certainly give you a lot of 1911 for the money.  Sporting Arms has the TRS right now for $1620 and the PII is under $1400.  Another you might consider is RRA as they offer a high quality 1911 for less than some of the others.  As someone stated it's hard to go wrong with any of those you've narrowed it down to.  
1/26/2007 9:13:20 PM EDT
[#20]
I'd have to go with Baer.  Not only does he make an accurate gun but he stands behind his product 100%.  I bought a TRS in 2001 and after a few thousand rounds noticed a hair line crack around the dust cover.  This was three years later.  I called the shop to ask what should be done and Les traded out the gun for a brand new one.

While this may scare some as a potential quality issue I think the important thing is the Les made things right and he did it within a week with no hassle whatsoever.  I've got about 2k rounds through the new gun with no problem.

I should also add that I never had a single malfunction of any kind with either gun.  They go bang every time and are capable of incredibly tight groups.

On an unrelated note, isn't Nighthawk basically all of Bill Wilson's ex-gunsmiths.  I thought he had a falling out with some of his top guys and they left to start their own company.  Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
1/27/2007 2:21:56 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
With so many big names out there such as Les Baer, Nighthawk, Wilson Combat, and Ed brown, im having a little trouble deciding on what to go through. My budget is around $2000 but will go a little bit overboard if needed.


I'm not too picky on accessories and such, I just want a well built reliable 1911 that will work with whatever I throw at it. Right now my eye is leaning torwards the Nighthawk GRP series, but I've got about a month to make up my mind so I'm just going to continue researching around until then.


Colt Special Combat Government
1/27/2007 5:07:30 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
Springfield Armory Professional


That is what I was going to suggest.  I have a Springfield Armory TRP that I love, but I lust after one of their Pro's.

Jay
1/27/2007 5:32:50 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

On an unrelated note, isn't Nighthawk basically all of Bill Wilson's ex-gunsmiths.  I thought he had a falling out with some of his top guys and they left to start their own company.  Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.



That is my understanding as well.

I don't know that I would say for certain they had a falling out as perhaps as much as they wanted to make the $$$$ as company owners that Wilson was able to make thru the years. Obviously, since I wasn't there, this is purely guesswork on my part.
1/27/2007 6:48:02 PM EDT
[#24]

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Ed Brown Special Forces $1995

nas4.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/064338000/64338469/pix442011690.jpg

Les Baer TRS $1748

nas4.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/064330000/64330880/pix434354190.jpg

Wilson Combat CQB $2185.00

www.wilsoncombat.com/images/product/wcqb-t-a.jpg

NightHawk GRP $2195 *

www.nighthawkcustom.com/images/nh-grpwol_1_xl.jpg


I've handled and fired examples of all the above and they are all outstanding products, any of which I would proudly carry.

My personal preferance though would be the NightHawk GRP, but then that's just me.


Wow, that Ed Brown is awfully pretty...That finish looks great.