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1/12/2007 7:03:53 PM EDT
whos making the best custom 1911s? i have heard a lot of good things about wilson. they pretty high on the list? any info would be great i am new to the 1911
thanks guys
stuck
1/12/2007 7:34:43 PM EDT
[#1]
A Wilson would be a semi-custom IMO.  They are great 1911s.  I would say Wilson, Ed Brown, Baer, RRA and  Night Hawk are all great 1911s.  I would like my next to be a YoBo but you can't go wrong with a Wilson.
1/12/2007 7:55:07 PM EDT
[#2]
Lots of smaller custom gunsmiths can build what you want.

There more top level custom 1911 builders out there than production 1911 makers.
1/13/2007 5:23:35 AM EDT
[#3]
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My Talon isn't too shabby...though as has been mentioned - it's considered a semi-custom.

Nothing bad to say about my 70 Series Colt YO-BO 1* Enhanced either...more along the lines of a custom...

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1/13/2007 6:41:23 AM EDT
[#4]
There is a guy named Richard Heinie that makes a pretty nice one.
1/13/2007 8:11:07 AM EDT
[#5]
What's your budget for this project?

1/13/2007 8:57:23 AM EDT
[#6]
What's your intended use?  What features do you want?  How long are you willing to wait?  Do you want a one of a kind, or would you be happy having the same thing that others have?  

In the semi-custom makers, you can't go wrong with Baer, Brown, Nighthawk, Rock River, Wilson.  This is probably all you need or want.

If you have the bug for a full custom gun, you'll spend more $$$ and wait longer.

My Heinie is "nicer" than my Baers, but I can't shoot it any better and reliability has been the same (the Baers run, and run, and run).

I suggest you shop for features, price, and delivery time.  Also ask about warranties, options (some makers allow changes to "package" guns, and some don't), and service later on.  

Lastly, I find it very, very interesting that Larry Vickers and now Richard Heinie are working with Nighthawk to build guns to their specs.  This says a lot about how they feel about NHC's ability to build 1911s.


1/13/2007 9:19:49 AM EDT
[#7]
http://www.louderthanwords.us/

Pick a gunsmith from the list, be carefull there are some knife makers and leather makers in the list of memebers. Probably a who's who of the best gunsmiths in the U.S.
Each has their own taste and idea of what a 1911 should look like, obviously the customer tells the gunsmith what he wants. If you want a true custom 1911 this is where to look. Don't be surprised if there is a wait for your pistol or you find that some of the smith's aren't accepting work. They normally have a backlog. In my experience, Chuck Rogers is a great person to deal with, and is a real craftsman. Nice guy too...
1/13/2007 9:53:44 AM EDT
[#8]
My Weigand 1911 is. Why? I own it.
1/13/2007 11:09:26 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
What's your intended use?  What features do you want?  How long are you willing to wait?  Do you want a one of a kind, or would you be happy having the same thing that others have?  

In the semi-custom makers, you can't go wrong with Baer, Brown, Nighthawk, Rock River, Wilson.  This is probably all you need or want.

If you have the bug for a full custom gun, you'll spend more $$$ and wait longer.

My Heinie is "nicer" than my Baers, but I can't shoot it any better and reliability has been the same (the Baers run, and run, and run).

I suggest you shop for features, price, and delivery time.  Also ask about warranties, options (some makers allow changes to "package" guns, and some don't), and service later on.  

Lastly, I find it very, very interesting that Larry Vickers and now Richard Heinie are working with Nighthawk to build guns to their specs.  This says a lot about how they feel about NHC's ability to build 1911s.




..Or how much they are getting paid by NHC to use their name

For a shooter it dosen't get much better than the semi-customs.  My Wilson is excellent.  I'm picking up a Springfield Professional Custom this afternoon so I'll see how a custom shoots :)
1/13/2007 11:32:56 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Quoted:
What's your intended use?  What features do you want?  How long are you willing to wait?  Do you want a one of a kind, or would you be happy having the same thing that others have?  

In the semi-custom makers, you can't go wrong with Baer, Brown, Nighthawk, Rock River, Wilson.  This is probably all you need or want.

If you have the bug for a full custom gun, you'll spend more $$$ and wait longer.

My Heinie is "nicer" than my Baers, but I can't shoot it any better and reliability has been the same (the Baers run, and run, and run).

I suggest you shop for features, price, and delivery time.  Also ask about warranties, options (some makers allow changes to "package" guns, and some don't), and service later on.  

Lastly, I find it very, very interesting that Larry Vickers and now Richard Heinie are working with Nighthawk to build guns to their specs.  This says a lot about how they feel about NHC's ability to build 1911s.


..Or how much they are getting paid by NHC to use their name


Likely less than Bill Wilson wanted...


1/13/2007 11:43:28 AM EDT
[#11]
I think it would be difficult to tell the difference between any of the top maker's pistols.  With that said, my John Jardine builds are not for sale.

Saw a thread about the NightHawk over on Tactical Forums.  I have no personal experience with their pistols.
1/13/2007 2:10:03 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I think it would be difficult to tell the difference between any of the top maker's pistols.  With that said, my John Jardine builds are not for sale.

Saw a thread about the NightHawk over on Tactical Forums.  I have no personal experience with their pistols.




I read that thread as well, ouch.  I'm sure the Nighthawks are very nice they just seem way over priced to me compared to what Les Baer and Ed Brown have to offer. I'll take performance over pretty any day.
1/13/2007 3:26:27 PM EDT
[#13]
I'm sure that any semi-custom builder would be happy to collaborate with LAV, RH, or Hilton Yam, however they all chose NHC.

Betchya more than a per gun royalty figured into the decision.

 





1/13/2007 4:27:22 PM EDT
[#14]
You have to realize that Nighthawk was a new name , even though the guys behind the name have been around for a long time (ex Wilson ) . It was perfect timing for Nighthawk to get some endorsements , they needed to make a name for themselves and are not as busy as the other big name shops ( being new ) . I would imagine they would be willing to offer a bigger piece of the pie on a joint 1911 . This is not a knock against Nighthawk , but the timing was great for them compared to the more established business names running at full tilt .