Warning

 

Close
Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Cancel Confirm
AR15.COM
9/2/2006 12:06:55 PM EDT
I have a springfield GI operator, and I want to put a new hammer, trigger, and safety on it. I went to the springfield website and they don't sell the parts. Is there a good website that sells some quality stuff?
Also, are 1911s like ARs where one part fits all, or do I need to look for specific parts? Like, will an ambidextrous safety fit a kimber and a springfield? Or will a hammer from a colt fit a springfield?
Thanks in advance.
-Steve


EDIT:
Here's what my operator looks like now:


It's absolutely dead bones reliable, with all types of ammunition, (except for when I used a magazine from my 1914 colt 1911), and I'd like to keep it that way if possible. But I just don't like how the safety is so small, and how the trigger is set so far back in the pistol, it doesn't feel right with my big hands.

Would these parts work, and does anyone have an experience with these guys? Or is there an industry partner who also sells these parts?
safety
hammer
trigger

Thanks again.
9/2/2006 1:41:21 PM EDT
[#1]
1911 are just like Ar's.

Most parts will interchange.  If you have a Colt 80 series you have to buy 80 series grip saftey and hammer.


Your Springfield will use  common 1911 parts with little problems.  Any Thumb saftey you purchase will have to be fit to the gun.


I never hand anyproblems dealing with 1911store or anyproblems with STI parts on my Edge.
9/2/2006 1:44:26 PM EDT
[#2]
Brownells, or Midway should be able to help you. They have a lot more to offer. Make sure that you get a sear with the hammer. Both Brownell's and Midway offer quality triggers, and action kits.


Brownells
Midway


9/2/2006 2:16:17 PM EDT
[#3]
The thumb safety and the trigger will usually drop in and fit in your pistol but sometimes it may require a little minor fitting.  The hammer is same but you'll have to change your grip safety to beavertail type.  Commander/ring type hammer will not work with standard tang grip safety.  Beavertail grip safety will require modification to your frame.  Wilson does make a drop in beavertail grip safety but its ugly and still requires some fitting on a SA frame.

 

 
9/2/2006 4:23:32 PM EDT
[#4]
I advise sticking with the TOP parts vendors - such as-

edbrown.com/

www.wilsoncombat.com/index.htm

www.egw-guns.com/

www.cylinder-slide.com/

Don't try fitting a Thumb safety or beavertail grip safety until you
have done some studying and know the 1911 internals intimately.
9/2/2006 6:17:36 PM EDT
[#5]
1911store is a top vendor, supplying  the USPSA shooter. A person who puts a hell of a lot lead down range in a season.

9/2/2006 6:47:41 PM EDT
[#6]
+1 for Brownells.
If you can't find it there you have a problem.
Or check out the custom sites, like Wilson, Ed Brown, Baer, etc.
You'll probably find the same stuff at Brownell's cheaper though.
9/2/2006 6:49:16 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
1911store is a top vendor, supplying  the USPSA shooter. A person who puts a hell of a lot lead down range in a season.


No offense , But mostly they RESELL parts made for OTHER CO.s ,
to the other CO.s specifications. ( such as those I mentioned )
Brown, Wilson ,etc. have a longer history and reputation.
9/2/2006 8:38:35 PM EDT
[#8]
Wow, thanks a lot for the replies.

I am not very "intimate" with the 1911, and I don't know if I'm prepared to do a lot of fitting myself. The only gunsmith i know of near me can only be trusted with a marlin .22, so it's pretty much up to me to get this done.

From what I understand, the trigger and the safety I am good to go, most parts are interchangeable... but the hammer is a different story?

I don't want to sound like a lazy turd, but I am afraid I'd buy the wrong part. Could someone point me in the direction of a skeleton hammer that would work with mine?
If you think a retard like myself could change out the grip safety then I guess I would need one of those as well.

Thanks again guys.
9/3/2006 3:50:18 AM EDT
[#9]
You could see if Springfield would do the work.

Just because they dont sell the parts you looking for, they do sell a lot of pistols with the parts already installed.


Thier custom shop should be able to the work.
9/3/2006 4:59:43 AM EDT
[#10]

steve-oh , I hope you didnt take offense at my comments ,
not my intention to insult at all.

Info on Beavertail gruip safeties for Springfield guns.

forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=4024

"drop in" trigger groups for 1911s

shop.cylinder-slide.com/ccp51/cgi-bin/cp-app.pl?usr=51F87280&rnd=5471496&rrc=N&affl=&cip=72.28.61.242&act=&aff=&pg=cat&ref=1911DI&catstr=HOME:6:43

Hope this helps
9/3/2006 5:05:58 AM EDT
[#11]
Do you have some literature on 1911 work?  There are some good ones out there.  Kuhnhausen, or Ed Brown, for starters.  Getting one of these would be the best investment you can make, before you sink money into parts.  

Hammer/sear work requires a jig, and some skill. There is a reason gunsmithing is a business.  1911 style guns can be worked on at home, but you can run through alot of parts during the learning process.  

Having the right tools is a necessity.  This is no small investment on it's own.  I'm not trying to discourage you.  Doing at least some things can be very satisfying, if you take your time, educate yourself first, and do it right.  If you don't, then it can be extremely frustrating, and expensive.
9/3/2006 5:57:11 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
steve-oh , I hope you didnt take offense at my comments ,
not my intention to insult at all.

Info on Beavertail gruip safeties for Springfield guns.

forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=4024

"drop in" trigger groups for 1911s

shop.cylinder-slide.com/ccp51/cgi-bin/cp-app.pl?usr=51F87280&rnd=5471496&rrc=N&affl=&cip=72.28.61.242&act=&aff=&pg=cat&ref=1911DI&catstr=HOME:6:43

Hope this helps


Nope not at all. Honestly, I appreciate the help here.
Thanks for the link, after reading that I'm going to call Springfield first thing Tuesday and see if they'll do it for me, I don't feel ready to be welding parts to get them to fit!
9/3/2006 6:57:48 AM EDT
[#13]
I'm not very technical.  In fact, I detail stripped a 1911 last week for the first time ever.  I've owned 1911s for a long time, but never had a need to do a detail strip.

I replaced the hammer, sear, disconnector, sear spring, and MSH spring and it was no trouble at all.  I got one of the C&S drop-in kits -- they don't require any fitting.  All you have to do is put them in the right spot.  Easty as pie -- it's remarkable how simple the 1911 is.  And I got a nice trigger pull out of the deal.  It'll probably cost you more to send the whole thing to SA, have them put in a hammer, and then send it back then it will for you to to plop in this new "trigger job" on your own.  And it'll probably be of more value.  In addition, you'll learn a few things about your pistol.

The only thing I feel I can't do on my own is a grip and thumb safety.  I REALLY want to learn how to do the thumb safety as I end up having my local smith do that and I don't want him to anymore.  I've tried to just drop them in, but usually they don't fit.  I don't know where to file though...
9/3/2006 9:51:47 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
I'm not very technical.  In fact, I detail stripped a 1911 last week for the first time ever.  I've owned 1911s for a long time, but never had a need to do a detail strip.

I replaced the hammer, sear, disconnector, sear spring, and MSH spring and it was no trouble at all.  I got one of the C&S drop-in kits -- they don't require any fitting.  All you have to do is put them in the right spot.  Easty as pie -- it's remarkable how simple the 1911 is.  And I got a nice trigger pull out of the deal.  It'll probably cost you more to send the whole thing to SA, have them put in a hammer, and then send it back then it will for you to to plop in this new "trigger job" on your own.  And it'll probably be of more value.  In addition, you'll learn a few things about your pistol.

The only thing I feel I can't do on my own is a grip and thumb safety.  I REALLY want to learn how to do the thumb safety as I end up having my local smith do that and I don't want him to anymore.  I've tried to just drop them in, but usually they don't fit.  I don't know where to file though...



Look at this thread by Pistolwretch.  

ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=49&t=31089

It shows where to file and where NOT to.  It is an interesting thread and I refer to it every once in a while.  

The following are pictures that John (Hobbs5624) sent to me when he was showing me the proper way to fit a thumb safety.  Along with the pictures, he also sent me a verrrry detailed set of instructions on what to do.  One thing that stuck to my mind was him telling me to take a little bit at a time off of the nub on the thumb safety (should be in red in the above thread and on the second pic below).  The first picture shows the part of the sear that the nub butts up against, keeping it from moving when the safety is engaged.






John,  I hope you don't mind me posting the pictures.  
9/3/2006 12:17:57 PM EDT
[#15]
Wow!  effinNewGuy -- thank you very very much!!!  

I think I need to buy a new 1911 just so I can try it