Posted: 8/6/2006 12:57:51 PM EDT
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I'm haveing problems with the slide stop not locking back consistantly on one gun and not at all on the other. First I use only wilson mags. The first culprite is a ultra compact my grandfather willed me. It will not lock back with wilsons but will with a springfield mag. It looks like the slide stop isn't factory as its kind of brownish in stead of the dark blue the springfield is. The second culprite is a mil-spec. It locks back part of the time but sometimes will slam shut when loading a mag. I'm useing a micro compact slide stop if that has anything to do with it until my new mil spec one comes in to replace it. |
| I am interested in this thread too. I have a Springfield GI that is doing the same thing. Works perfect with the factory mag, but will not lock back at all with a GI mag, and hit or miss with a chip mccormick 8 rounder. It's driving me nuts because it's starting to bash the corner of the notch in the slide. Hope someone can help. Nick |
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*** Stop shooting both pistols and have either the manufacturer or a competant smith replace/refit proper slidestops to both *** Ok, I had an officer pistol that began the same way. First it was a matter of telling what mags were (not) in spec. Once that seemed to be solved, the problem either continued or crept back up. Long story short, I was advised to replace the SS which I did with a Wilson Combat drop in. Problem solved... for a while. After a few hundred rounds the problem returned and I noticed that now there was an ugly peening to the slide stop notch (the metal @ the notch was curling out from impact w SS). I sent the weapon in LT warranty and explained the problem and they denied the warranty work, stating I had voided the warranty by installing aftermarket parts, that the SS was not properly fitted (although drop in part) and it wasn't balanced w the slide, meaning it could be a great deal harder than the ones they use, thus causing the damage. I told this all to Wilson and they acknowledged that response was plausible. Well, I reinstalled the factory parts and made the motherfuckers honor that warranty (mainly because I was advised to replace the SS by one of their smiths, since I told him I was sick of paying $40 to overnight it to them for warranty work). I test fired it and it was satisfactory so in my safe she rots. What to glean from my experience: - Officers, Defenders, and compacts shorter than 4" suck donkey balls and should not be purchased - Have a damn good reason for replacing your slide stop. - If you have a damn good reason, research the hardness of your slide, SS and frame, and make sure the SS you are installing is not significantly harder - better yet, research the pistol before purchase, if the slide sems soft, don't buy it. - If you have a LT warranty or are replacing SS while pistol is under warranty, have the factory do it, so that you CYA. - If the gun is worth something, consider having a smith fit the SS (drop in or not) and save the receipt. Should the issue happen down the line you have the smith's ass in a sling when it comes to ponying up for a new slide. - Regardless of the SS, make sure you are using a properly weighted recoil spring, and check with your manufacturer regarding standard replacement and specialized load specs. |
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It may not be the slide stop. A couple of things to consider: 1/using less than full power ammo will not force the slide back far enough to lock it open. try it with some 1st rate ammo - such as hydrashock, golden saber, sxt, etc. 2/the sub commander size 1911s are less reliable - they have to use the stronger springs to compensate for the reduced slide mass 3/your grip style can affect the how far the slide comes back during recoil - the pistol is recoil operated - it has to have something to recoil against, so your grip must provide a solid platform for the pistol. this can be a problem esp. when shooting 1 handed, by shooters with slender forearms, and in the shorter 1911s. As an aside, Glocks have these same problems due to their lightweight frames Have someone more proficient than you try the pistols with quality ammo as mentioned above and see if they have the same problems. |
| Guys my problem lies with me hand cycling the gun. If I was to take them to a match and they decided I was the one to be safty checked and they didn't lock back my gun would be a no go. My 9mm 1911 locks back and the stop fills the notch completely so I was wondering if I was having problems. |
| Are you using any type of a recoil buffer bushing in the gun? [shok buff] Before you do anything else, if you have one, take it out and throw it away!!! It can cause the exact problem you are describing and it's even worse on the shorter slide length guns. Hand testing makes it even worse............... |
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1st off, the issue you have would not be grounds for an unsafe gun at any IDPA or IPSC/USPSA match. It's not a safety problem. Many pistols (esp. in open class) have been modified so they will not lock the slide back on an open mag unless the user pushes the slide stop upward with intent. 2 - many pistols will not perform differently in life fire than when hand cycled. If it works A-OK in live fire, leave it alone. |