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11/18/2005 3:31:04 PM EDT
I have springfield loaded (9mm) that I want to put a new beavertail on.  It's not a bad gun, but I can see a small casting defect on the beavertail, and since I'm anal, I want a new one.  (It's not big enough to justify a trip to springfield)  Anyway, I like the idea of the ed brown memory groove, but I understand it requires welding a bit to the tabs on the back of the frame.  

So, if I want to avoid welding, what beavertail should I go with?   I don't mind taking away, just don't want to have to add.

While were at it, I wouldn't mind having a higher pad on my Kimber Gold Match.  What's a good beavertail for the Kimber?  

Thanks,
Wolffie
11/18/2005 4:07:52 PM EDT
[#1]
an S&A is about your only bet for the Springfield but you may or may not have a gap. If you're lucky you won't. The SA beavertail raduis can vary. As for the Kimber you can fit a Brown with a little work.
11/18/2005 4:33:11 PM EDT
[#2]
Thanks, much appreciated.  I guess if that's my only option I may just as well start polishing on the defect and see if it's only superficial before going through the trouble of a new one.  If that doesn't work, then I'll look into the S&A.  I don't want it to look half assed.  The frame already extends past the beavertail enough to annoy me and I figured that if I were to re-do that, I might as well put a new grip safety in.  
11/18/2005 5:36:05 PM EDT
[#3]
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11/18/2005 6:09:43 PM EDT
[#4]
I've used the S&A grip safeties with the memory bump on 3 different guns and have been very happy with them.  I fitted them to milspec frames though, and I have never tried one on a loaded gun.  Listen to hobbs first and foremost, he has much more experience with all matters 1911 than me.
11/18/2005 9:18:10 PM EDT
[#5]
Thanks for the help guys.  Ask and ye shall recieve.  Though, I apologize for the poor quality.





11/18/2005 9:20:01 PM EDT
[#6]
Oh yeah, the casting defect is visible on the beavertail, just inside the left side tang on the frame.  I mentioned I was anal right?  Thing is, I'd like to avoid gaps and the tangs are spaced such that I don't think I can use an Ed Brown.  Wilson might work.  
11/19/2005 4:20:45 AM EDT
[#7]
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11/19/2005 6:31:26 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
...watertower, you're too kind.



You don't know me at all!  


I've just seen a lot of your posts and they have been very informative.  Most of what you have said about the 1911 I agree with and I've learned somethings from your posts too.   I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I can tell when somebody knows more than I do.

As for the Wilson safety, will it work with a little blending on an SA loaded model?  Do you need to add any material to the frame or not?  It seems like SA cuts the tangs a little short and radiuses them too much.  Asking because I've not tried it.  
11/19/2005 11:08:39 AM EDT
[#9]
Yeah, the casting flaw is to light to be seen this photo.  If I posted the full 4mb photo it might show up.  The thing is, I know it's there, and that's the kind of thing that keeps me up at night.  
11/19/2005 2:35:57 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Yeah, the casting flaw is to light to be seen this photo.  If I posted the full 4mb photo it might show up.  The thing is, I know it's there, and that's the kind of thing that keeps me up at night.  



I would try a light sedative... much cheaper than getting your 1911 fixed/worked on :-)
11/19/2005 4:40:58 PM EDT
[#11]
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11/19/2005 5:41:59 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Yeah, the casting flaw is to light to be seen this photo.  If I posted the full 4mb photo it might show up.  The thing is, I know it's there, and that's the kind of thing that keeps me up at night.  



I would try a light sedative... much cheaper than getting your 1911 fixed/worked on :-)



You might be surprised.  Gun work isn't that expensive, especially if you're doing much of it yourself.  Retail on a beavertail is only about 35 bucks, and those Kuhnhausen books can make a guy feel like a hero.  There's a lot of satisfaction in finishing an upgrade on something and getting it "just how you want it."  Benzodiazepines aren't that expensive, but I've still got a year and a half before I can write for them.
11/19/2005 6:04:35 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Well, SA does cut it shorter than they need to, and they do radius it too much on top.  A Wilson should fit just like the factory loaded model beavertail, keeping in mind there are variances in beavertails even amongst the same manufacturer and model.  However, since they are virtually the same part in almost every aspect (you can grind the hump off a SA like you can a Wilson), you will end up with the same look.  

wolffie, the sad thing is that I actually DO stay up at night sometimes thinking about 1911s that need work.  I had a problem 1911 recently that required some in depth trouble shooting, and it was my favorite gun.  It must have kept me up 3 hours before I finally fell asleep, woke up the next day, and fized it.  I don't even carry that gun.



Thanks for the info.

I've layed in bed for hours trying to figure out the right configuration for a current build, or how I'm going to accomplish the end result.  AR configurations are even wrose.
11/23/2005 3:11:35 PM EDT
[#14]
I wish I would have read this before placing my last Brownells order. I ordered an S&A grip safety to replace the one that came on my Loaded model. I read this thread about an hour after submitting the order. D'oh.

The S&A got here yesterday and I promptly attempted to throw it on. It's not a perfect fit, but it'll do. It needs to be narrowed just a bit, and the frame tangs are undercut just enough to be kinda ugly looking. But since I don't have any metal-putting-on tools (especially for stainless) I'm just SOL for now. It's a lot better than the blued metal grip safety that I mistakenly stripped thinking it was stainless. That sucker was rusting PDQ.

Bottom line: it went on a hell of a lot better than the Ed Brown beavertail I got for my Kimber TLE/RL. I need to find a gunsmith, dammit.
11/23/2005 6:14:19 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Bottom line: it went on a hell of a lot better than the Ed Brown beavertail I got for my Kimber TLE/RL. I need to find a gunsmith, dammit.



Sub, where in VA are you?  If you're nearby, maybe I can try to help you out with the Brown on the Kimber.  I'm no 'smith, but I can get by.  Shoot me an email or pm.