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11/26/2015 5:17:56 PM EDT
So I am at my parents house for thanksgiving and brought along my 1911 so my dad could shoot it.  I was getting a little range set up on the property (he recently  harvested a bunch of trees and it makes for a nice lane on his 21 acres) when he tells me he needs to go back to the house for a few minutes.  He comes back out with this Spanish
.32.  Apparently it was my grandfather's and my dad had never shot it.  But he had bought ammo so we could shoot it today.  I broke it down, oiled it up, and we put a lot through it.  The one magazine he has failed to lock back on empty twice, but it had been sitting loaded for what he thinks is about 30 years  (my g'father died in 84).  I shot that ammo one at a time, worked great and the magazing loosened up and started locking back the slide.  I never knew that my dad had this gun, but it was a good day.  Makes me miss my g'father though.

Anyone know anything else they can tell me about this?










With my PSA 1911.


11/26/2015 5:49:10 PM EDT
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I had one of those in .380 years ago. Shot the heck out of it. Seemed like I could hit anything I wanted with it. I was surprised for such a cheap little pistol.  I eventually sold it. A few years later I came across another one. Bought it for $100. The second one was a total POS! Couldn't hit the side of a barn with it. Very dissapointing. If this one shoots well hang on to it and enjoy it. Cool little gun. Mechanical function identical to a 1911 but ergonomics are a little different.
11/26/2015 7:02:00 PM EDT
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I had one of those in .380 years ago. Shot the heck out of it. Seemed like I could hit anything I wanted with it. I was surprised for such a cheap little pistol.  I eventually sold it. A few years later I came across another one. Bought it for $100. The second one was a total POS! Couldn't hit the side of a barn with it. Very dissapointing. If this one shoots well hang on to it and enjoy it. Cool little gun. Mechanical function identical to a 1911 but ergonomics are a little different.
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It shoots very well.  The more we used it the better it functioned.   Would like to find some more mags for it.  With a hp round, it could be a nice little carry gun.
11/26/2015 7:10:50 PM EDT
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looks like an early locked breach gun. the later models were blowback.

oops maybe not, thought the barrel had lock groove but it doesn't
11/26/2015 7:16:37 PM EDT
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Both pistols I had used a link and pin just like a traditional 1911.
11/26/2015 7:25:46 PM EDT
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looks like an early locked breach gun. the later models were blowback.

oops maybe not, thought the barrel had lock groove but it doesn't
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I think this was a Llama 1, made from the 30s to 1954.
11/27/2015 9:04:51 AM EDT
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A couple of things to be aware of with your old Llama 7.65/32 ACP, it more than likely has a full length firing pin.  A bump on the hammer with the hammer down (condition 2) on a live round can fire the chambered round.  Another common cause is dropping the pistol and getting an inertia fired round or landing on the hammer and firing the round.

In my opion there are only two safe ways to carry that generation Llama, cocked & locked(condition 1) or with an empty chamber with loaded magazine (condition 3).  I had two LE friends from the Viet Nam era that believed the best way to carry a 1911 stlye pistol was the hammer in half cocked position with a loaded round in the chamber.   One officer accidently shot a 380 through the dash of his police car with the newer generation 380 Llama 1911.  Another friend was trying to lower the hammer on a loaded round in his 1911 series 70 Colt.  His Mother in Law didn't like guns and hated seeing his cocked and locked Colt.  Well his thumb slipped off the hammer and he fired a round through her kitchen floor trying to lower the hammer on a live round to appease her.

You have a nice keep sake there and I hope you keep it in the family
11/27/2015 10:20:49 PM EDT
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It shoots very well.  The more we used it the better it functioned.   Would like to find some more mags for it.  With a hp round, it could be a nice little carry gun.
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I had one of those in .380 years ago. Shot the heck out of it. Seemed like I could hit anything I wanted with it. I was surprised for such a cheap little pistol.  I eventually sold it. A few years later I came across another one. Bought it for $100. The second one was a total POS! Couldn't hit the side of a barn with it. Very dissapointing. If this one shoots well hang on to it and enjoy it. Cool little gun. Mechanical function identical to a 1911 but ergonomics are a little different.

It shoots very well.  The more we used it the better it functioned.   Would like to find some more mags for it.  With a hp round, it could be a nice little carry gun.


I've got a similar llama .32 except that mine is the next version, the Llama XA Especial with the decorative vented rib on the slide that I bought NIB in 1964 and it's been a great little pistol.

Many people believe that due to better penetration, FMJ is the way to go when using .32 ACP for self defense.

Enjoy your Llama.
11/27/2015 10:23:58 PM EDT
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looks like an early locked breach gun. the later models were blowback.

oops maybe not, thought the barrel had lock groove but it doesn't
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The earlier .380s were locked breach with barrel  lugs and a barrel link, and later pistols of that caliber were blowback.

The .32 ACP (7.62 mm Browning) pistols are all blowback operated.
12/1/2015 12:49:50 PM EDT
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There don't appear to be any locking lugs on the barrel.

How does the gun lock up without locking lugs?