Posted: 6/19/2014 5:06:45 PM EDT
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What do I need to know about the Springfield LW Operator?
Looks like it would make a good addition and serve well as a nightstand pistol with optional CCW duties. |
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Interesting. What other railed 1911's in the 1k range would you suggest. Quoted:
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Use captured follower mags to avoid ramp gouging. Other than that, it's basically a Loaded. Interesting. What other railed 1911's in the 1k range would you suggest. Colt, SIG, Smith. STI is a little more but they make a good gun too. |
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This might be stretching your budget a bit, but how about the Colt Rail Gun? http://www.colt.com/Portals/0/productimages/2013/O1980RG.jpg Quoted:
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What other railed 1911's in the 1k range would you suggest. This might be stretching your budget a bit, but how about the Colt Rail Gun? http://www.colt.com/Portals/0/productimages/2013/O1980RG.jpg I looked at these. I feel that for the price it should have front checkering. There seem to be more "featured" options than the colt in the same price range. That said - it's still on the list if I get frisky. The appeal to the LW operator is the weight for ccw duties. How do the sigs stack up? |
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I looked at these. I feel that for the price it should have front checkering. There seem to be more "featured" options than the colt in the same price range. That said - it's still on the list if I get frisky. The appeal to the LW operator is the weight for ccw duties. How do the sigs stack up? Quoted:
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What other railed 1911's in the 1k range would you suggest. This might be stretching your budget a bit, but how about the Colt Rail Gun? http://www.colt.com/Portals/0/productimages/2013/O1980RG.jpg I looked at these. I feel that for the price it should have front checkering. There seem to be more "featured" options than the colt in the same price range. That said - it's still on the list if I get frisky. The appeal to the LW operator is the weight for ccw duties. How do the sigs stack up? Good as either SA or Colt in quality and better on features (IMO). |
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The appeal to the LW operator is the weight for ccw duties. If you want a 1911 with a light rail, it's most likely going to be on a full size frame. The size & weight of such aren't exactly CCW friendly. If the guns primary purpose is CCW duty, you might want to look at a commander length and skip the bulk of a light rail. The rail with or without light is going to narrow your CCW holster choices. You're gonna need some mighty big pants to IWB a fullsize 1911 with a light! 
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Since your a Springfield guy why not the MC operator? Skip the lightweight frame. Forget abut sig. E series smith is also a great option if your into features. Quoted:
Since your a Springfield guy why not the MC operator? Skip the lightweight frame. Forget abut sig. E series smith is also a great option if your into features. The MC Operator is #2 on my list, I do like the all black nature of the LW variant though. Quoted:
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The appeal to the LW operator is the weight for ccw duties. If you want a 1911 with a light rail, it's most likely going to be on a full size frame. The size & weight of such aren't exactly CCW friendly. If the guns primary purpose is CCW duty, you might want to look at a commander length and skip the bulk of a light rail. The rail with or without light is going to narrow your CCW holster choices. You're gonna need some mighty big pants to IWB a fullsize 1911 with a light! For CCW it would be carried without a light. - I would get an OWB for any "need" a light use (farm / range / etc...). IWB would still be similar in width dimensions to my current EDC my G19. It would get a light clipped on at night for sitting on the nightstand. So, if that helps show my appeal for the LW operator, it would ride nicely in kydex and the armorykote would provide slide protection from my sweat while the alloy frame, well won't rust. |
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http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq355/Ironhandjohn/DSC_3226_zps328ebce9.jpg You've shot this one... Hell, I think this is even one of your photos. Something to think about. Too pimp for this simpleton
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go on sir. 
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Interesting. What other railed 1911's in the 1k range would you suggest. Quoted:
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Use captured follower mags to avoid ramp gouging. Other than that, it's basically a Loaded. Interesting. What other railed 1911's in the 1k range would you suggest. S&W |
SIG Tac Ops Carry TB - very nice gun. You get a lot for your money with a SIG, but you also get quite a few MIM parts. I've never had a part failure in any I've owned, and I've owned a few.
Springfield LW Operator - also a nice gun. The aluminum frame lightens it up and you can feel it. I prefer front checkering which these don't have. Also reliable and accurate, but really no more so than the SIG. A tad overpriced in my opinion considering the features (or lack thereof). Plenty of MIM in these also. 
Colt Rail Gun - I've had a couple of these and they have been reliable and pretty accurate. Typically the slide/frame fit is looser than some of the others if that bothers you. Also overpriced in my opinion considering the lack of front strap checkering and no night sights. Fewer MIM parts than the others listed here. And it's a Colt so lots of folks don't mind paying a premium for the pony. 
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SIG Tac Ops Carry TB - very nice gun. You get a lot for your money with a SIG, but you also get quite a few MIM parts. I've never had a part failure in any I've owned, and I've owned a few. <a href="http://s406.photobucket.com/user/dkm455/media/tacops1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp146/dkm455/tacops1.jpg</a> Springfield LW Operator - also a nice gun. The aluminum frame lightens it up and you can feel it. I prefer front checkering which these don't have. Also reliable and accurate, but really no more so than the SIG. A tad overpriced in my opinion considering the features (or lack thereof). Plenty of MIM in these also. <a href="http://s406.photobucket.com/user/dkm455/media/LWO6_zps4812c6a0.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp146/dkm455/LWO6_zps4812c6a0.jpg</a> Colt Rail Gun - I've had a couple of these and they have been reliable and pretty accurate. Typically the slide/frame fit is looser than some of the others if that bothers you. Also overpriced in my opinion considering the lack of front strap checkering and no night sights. Fewer MIM parts than the others listed here. And it's a Colt so lots of folks don't mind paying a premium for the pony. <a href="http://s406.photobucket.com/user/dkm455/media/crg1_zps4171d0f2.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp146/dkm455/crg1_zps4171d0f2.jpg</a> excellent - anyone of those shoot better than the other? I know its a loaded question as I've seen all makes and models shoot similar accuracy when not rested. If you had to pick 1 - what and why? |
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excellent - anyone of those shoot better than the other? I know its a loaded question as I've seen all makes and models shoot similar accuracy when not rested. If you had to pick 1 - what and why? Quoted:
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SIG Tac Ops Carry TB - very nice gun. You get a lot for your money with a SIG, but you also get quite a few MIM parts. I've never had a part failure in any I've owned, and I've owned a few. <a href="http://s406.photobucket.com/user/dkm455/media/tacops1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp146/dkm455/tacops1.jpg</a> Springfield LW Operator - also a nice gun. The aluminum frame lightens it up and you can feel it. I prefer front checkering which these don't have. Also reliable and accurate, but really no more so than the SIG. A tad overpriced in my opinion considering the features (or lack thereof). Plenty of MIM in these also. <a href="http://s406.photobucket.com/user/dkm455/media/LWO6_zps4812c6a0.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp146/dkm455/LWO6_zps4812c6a0.jpg</a> Colt Rail Gun - I've had a couple of these and they have been reliable and pretty accurate. Typically the slide/frame fit is looser than some of the others if that bothers you. Also overpriced in my opinion considering the lack of front strap checkering and no night sights. Fewer MIM parts than the others listed here. And it's a Colt so lots of folks don't mind paying a premium for the pony. <a href="http://s406.photobucket.com/user/dkm455/media/crg1_zps4171d0f2.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp146/dkm455/crg1_zps4171d0f2.jpg</a> excellent - anyone of those shoot better than the other? I know its a loaded question as I've seen all makes and models shoot similar accuracy when not rested. If you had to pick 1 - what and why? All three are more capable than I am on any given day. The Colt is the smoothest shooter probably because it has the most rounds through it. It's also the loosest fitting. I traded off the LW Operator primarily because I prefer steel frames as I don't carry my 1911s except to the occasional BBQ. I really like SIG 1911s, I've had more of them than any other brand. People complain about the external extractor and MIM parts, but neither bothers me as I've never had a part failure with one and as long as the extraction process works, I don't really care where the extractor is located. The Colt has more resale value and "cool factor" I suppose, but I prefer the SIG because of the checkering on the front strap and the night sights. One thing I've noticed consistently on production 1911s is there can be quite a bit of variation between individual examples of the same model with respect to fit. It's the same on Colt, SIG, Springfield, S&W, etc. Find a really nice example of any, one where tolerance stacking hasn't caused fit issues, and they all are nice guns. Some examples will be looser than others, some triggers will be better than others, grip safeties fit better, etc., all within the same brand and model. My best advice is take a good look at any you're thinking about purchasing. Check them over very well. Find one that's put together pretty well and it'll be a nice shooter. Ordering one off the internet without seeing it first is a crapshoot. Once you get a level above these types of "CNC production guns" as I call them, the inconsistencies are minimized. But you pay for that. |
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I agree with the individual nature of each pistol representing its own sample size of one.
My Springfield loaded is a "N" prefix, Brazilian made, however it is tight for a production gun, the trigger is nice, and its reliable as all get go. I've read this is impossible unless its a finished in the US "NM" gun. I'll be sure to look at all the variants everyone has mentioned. This won't be purchased for another month, but I wanted to get good research in and be able to visit local shops to get a feel for each one. We are closing on a new house in the next 28 days and I had a nice Q2 at work...so this is both a housewarming present and commission gift to myself. This will serve a HD / Range / CCW role. The list in no order has the following in it: MC Operator LW Operator LW Champion Operator SIG tacops traditional SIG tacops SIG tacops carry ESeries TA Used Colt Rail Gun |
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http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq355/Ironhandjohn/DSC_3226_zps328ebce9.jpg You've shot this one... Hell, I think this is even one of your photos. Something to think about. Too pimp for this simpleton Ok, then.. How about one in black? 
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| My colt rail gun is becoming my favorite pistol. I'm pushing 1,000 trouble free rounds so far. Feeds gold dots no problem. At first I was regretting selling my Loaded to get it but not anymore. For the price though the gun should have come with night sights or front strap checkering. It has to be one of the smoothest 1911's I've ever shot. |
