Posted: 11/4/2013 7:19:27 PM EDT
| Does anyone know where I can get a replacement guide rod for the new Colt M45A1 CQB Pistol? |
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It is just a standard government model guide rod. It can be had from Ed Brown, Wilson, or several are available from Brownells. If the Colt part isn't available I would go with Ed Brown or Wilson. Quoted:
It is just a standard government model guide rod. It can be had from Ed Brown, Wilson, or several are available from Brownells. If the Colt part isn't available I would go with Ed Brown or Wilson. According to info from Colt's Custom Shop........ NO, it is not "a standard government model guide rod" I cannot tell you too much tech info based on it is a new design and part of a military contract. I can tell you this, guide rod is not standard and neither is the machining on the inside of the receiver where it sits. Spring plug is not standard due to the duel springs.
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Quoted: According to info from Colt's Custom Shop........ NO, it is not "a standard government model guide rod" Quoted: Quoted: It is just a standard government model guide rod. It can be had from Ed Brown, Wilson, or several are available from Brownells. If the Colt part isn't available I would go with Ed Brown or Wilson. According to info from Colt's Custom Shop........ NO, it is not "a standard government model guide rod" I cannot tell you too much tech info based on it is a new design and part of a military contract. I can tell you this, guide rod is not standard and neither is the machining on the inside of the receiver where it sits. Spring plug is not standard due to the duel springs. Brent The Delta part is available from Midway for $14.99, part number 223140. Call Colt and see if it is the same part. For $14.99 it's worth a try.
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Quoted: I think I would want to compare bite guide rods. Brent stated the seat in the frame is different as well. |
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Looks like Brent is just spewing a bunch of "proprietary parts" bullshit. Both Hilton Yam and modernserviceweapons.com have measured the internal dimensions of the m45a1 and found that it is the same as every other Colt. The dual spring setup sprung, (pardon the pun), from ridiculous and unrealistic requirements put forward by the Marine Corps. The recoil system in the m45a1 can be replaced with a standard guide rod and a suitable single spring. |
| I cant see that it would cost so much to keep it original that you would change it out. how much are we talking here under 60 bucks? while you may very well be able to swap it out I would keep it the way it was made but I do that with almost everything. if you are not saving much money why bother. |
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Quoted: I cant see that it would cost so much to keep it original that you would change it out. how much are we talking here under 60 bucks? while you may very well be able to swap it out I would keep it the way it was made but I do that with almost everything. if you are not saving much money why bother. |
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Quoted: I'd get rid of that bullshit and run a proper 16lb spring like the gun is supposed to have. WTF would anyone want to run an 18 or 18.5lb spring in a normal 1911? Makes absolutely no sense... Oh wait, maybe it does. The gov't was involved.  If standard pressure ammo is to be run then a single spring 16 pound setup would be ideal.
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The intent of the recoil system on the m45a1 was to handle nothing but +p ammunition being run in the gun. The dual spring setup allows for spring changes every 5000 rounds, (a requirement of the Marine Corps). A single 18 pound spring, changed every 2000-3000 rounds would be just fine with +p ammo. If standard pressure ammo is to be run then a single spring 16 pound setup would be ideal. Quoted:
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I'd get rid of that bullshit and run a proper 16lb spring like the gun is supposed to have. WTF would anyone want to run an 18 or 18.5lb spring in a normal 1911? Makes absolutely no sense... Oh wait, maybe it does. The gov't was involved. If standard pressure ammo is to be run then a single spring 16 pound setup would be ideal. It is mitigate the frame battering problem experienced by high round count 1911s in Marine Corps service, in the MEU-SOC 45 and M45s Wilson shock buffers were part of the SL3 to stop the problem The TM 09795C-OI/1 (ORGANIZATIONAL AND INTERMEDIATE MAINTENANCE MANUAL WITH REPAIR PARTS LIST (RPL) FOR M45A1 CLOSE QUARTERS BATTLE PISTOL (CQBP) .45 Caliber) does not list a periodicity for replacement of the recoil spring, instead directs its replacement if failure to lock or failures to chamber occurs. |
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Quoted: It is mitigate the frame battering problem experienced by high round count 1911s in Marine Corps service, in the MEU-SOC 45 and M45s Wilson shock buffers were part of the SL3 to stop the problem The TM 09795C-OI/1 (ORGANIZATIONAL AND INTERMEDIATE MAINTENANCE MANUAL WITH REPAIR PARTS LIST (RPL) FOR M45A1 CLOSE QUARTERS BATTLE PISTOL (CQBP) .45 Caliber) does not list a periodicity for replacement of the recoil spring, instead directs its replacement if failure to lock or failures to chamber occurs. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'd get rid of that bullshit and run a proper 16lb spring like the gun is supposed to have. WTF would anyone want to run an 18 or 18.5lb spring in a normal 1911? Makes absolutely no sense... Oh wait, maybe it does. The gov't was involved. If standard pressure ammo is to be run then a single spring 16 pound setup would be ideal. It is mitigate the frame battering problem experienced by high round count 1911s in Marine Corps service, in the MEU-SOC 45 and M45s Wilson shock buffers were part of the SL3 to stop the problem The TM 09795C-OI/1 (ORGANIZATIONAL AND INTERMEDIATE MAINTENANCE MANUAL WITH REPAIR PARTS LIST (RPL) FOR M45A1 CLOSE QUARTERS BATTLE PISTOL (CQBP) .45 Caliber) does not list a periodicity for replacement of the recoil spring, instead directs its replacement if failure to lock or failures to chamber occurs. I know nothing of all that other nonsense you posted. I believe that the double spring requirement and the 5000 round BS was part of the original requirements for the pistol. No matter what the stated reasons for the double spring setup are they are not valid. There is no need for that spring setup in a 1911, especially one that will see limited use in civilian hands and one that can be cared for properly by a civilian owner.
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Yes, the frame battering experienced with the use of +p ammo. Standard pressure ammo and regular spring changes will eliminate battered frames. I know nothing of all that other nonsense you posted. I believe that the double spring requirement and the 5000 round BS was part of the original requirements for the pistol. No matter what the stated reasons for the double spring setup are they are not valid. There is no need for that spring setup in a 1911, especially one that will see limited use in civilian hands and one that can be cared for properly by a civilian owner. Quoted:
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I'd get rid of that bullshit and run a proper 16lb spring like the gun is supposed to have. WTF would anyone want to run an 18 or 18.5lb spring in a normal 1911? Makes absolutely no sense... Oh wait, maybe it does. The gov't was involved. If standard pressure ammo is to be run then a single spring 16 pound setup would be ideal. It is mitigate the frame battering problem experienced by high round count 1911s in Marine Corps service, in the MEU-SOC 45 and M45s Wilson shock buffers were part of the SL3 to stop the problem The TM 09795C-OI/1 (ORGANIZATIONAL AND INTERMEDIATE MAINTENANCE MANUAL WITH REPAIR PARTS LIST (RPL) FOR M45A1 CLOSE QUARTERS BATTLE PISTOL (CQBP) .45 Caliber) does not list a periodicity for replacement of the recoil spring, instead directs its replacement if failure to lock or failures to chamber occurs. I know nothing of all that other nonsense you posted. I believe that the double spring requirement and the 5000 round BS was part of the original requirements for the pistol. No matter what the stated reasons for the double spring setup are they are not valid. There is no need for that spring setup in a 1911, especially one that will see limited use in civilian hands and one that can be cared for properly by a civilian owner. Trust me I know quite a bit more about the program and I dont think you don't know what you are talking IRT requirements or what was done with the M45 or the MEUSOC45 The Marines shoot TZ headstamp ammo but it is not plus P |
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Looks like Brent is just spewing a bunch of "proprietary parts" bullshit. Both Hilton Yam and modernserviceweapons.com have measured the internal dimensions of the m45a1 and found that it is the same as every other Colt. The dual spring setup sprung, (pardon the pun), from ridiculous and unrealistic requirements put forward by the Marine Corps. The recoil system in the m45a1 can be replaced with a standard guide rod and a suitable single spring. Did not know Yam had posted that info.........cool deal. With that info at hand,....standard guide rod it is! |
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Quoted: Trust me I know quite a bit more about the program and I dont think you don't know what you are talking IRT requirements or what was done with the M45 or the MEUSOC45 The Marines shoot TZ headstamp ammo but it is not plus P Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'd get rid of that bullshit and run a proper 16lb spring like the gun is supposed to have. WTF would anyone want to run an 18 or 18.5lb spring in a normal 1911? Makes absolutely no sense... Oh wait, maybe it does. The gov't was involved. If standard pressure ammo is to be run then a single spring 16 pound setup would be ideal. It is mitigate the frame battering problem experienced by high round count 1911s in Marine Corps service, in the MEU-SOC 45 and M45s Wilson shock buffers were part of the SL3 to stop the problem The TM 09795C-OI/1 (ORGANIZATIONAL AND INTERMEDIATE MAINTENANCE MANUAL WITH REPAIR PARTS LIST (RPL) FOR M45A1 CLOSE QUARTERS BATTLE PISTOL (CQBP) .45 Caliber) does not list a periodicity for replacement of the recoil spring, instead directs its replacement if failure to lock or failures to chamber occurs. I know nothing of all that other nonsense you posted. I believe that the double spring requirement and the 5000 round BS was part of the original requirements for the pistol. No matter what the stated reasons for the double spring setup are they are not valid. There is no need for that spring setup in a 1911, especially one that will see limited use in civilian hands and one that can be cared for properly by a civilian owner. Trust me I know quite a bit more about the program and I dont think you don't know what you are talking IRT requirements or what was done with the M45 or the MEUSOC45 The Marines shoot TZ headstamp ammo but it is not plus P |
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Quoted: all good info but where to find replacements and how much are they is what I think the original post was asking. . Im sure Colt could some how help you out or hit m1911.org and look up Bjt72 I think thats brent and if anyone can help he can. |
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Quoted: The part was lost from my buddies issued 1911, we are trying to replace the part before anyone important finds out. I emailed Wilson and their guide rods will not fit. My buddy has called Colt 5 time with no answer. I am normally a huge Colt fanboy but I cannot believe that Colt and the U.S. Marine Corps have joined forces to create such a pile of shit. What a bunch of tools.
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The part was lost from my buddies issued 1911, we are trying to replace the part before anyone important finds out. I emailed Wilson and their guide rods will not fit. My buddy has called Colt 5 time with no answer. How could your buddy not reporting this? He got a 1911 without a guide rod and no body can tell? |
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The part was lost from my buddies issued 1911, we are trying to replace the part before anyone important finds out. I emailed Wilson and their guide rods will not fit. My buddy has called Colt 5 time with no answer. Wow,........looks like the Marine Corp no longer teaches ethics, honor and honesty! What a shame......... |
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Wow,........looks like the Marine Corp no longer teaches ethics, honor and honesty! What a shame......... Quoted:
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The part was lost from my buddies issued 1911, we are trying to replace the part before anyone important finds out. I emailed Wilson and their guide rods will not fit. My buddy has called Colt 5 time with no answer. Wow,........looks like the Marine Corp no longer teaches ethics, honor and honesty! What a shame......... But they still teach 'em to improvise, adapt and overcome! 
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Sometimes, there is no difference.
I agree, the young Marine needs to man up and accept the consequences--and quickly, to make that weapon ready again. But at the same time, at least he was trying to make it right--and not by taking the easy way out and replacing it with an incorrect part. Not sure where the idealized view of Marines comes from, but you can have honor and integrity and still not be an alter boy. They're warfighters, not Boy Scouts. |
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Sometimes, there is no difference. I agree, the young Marine needs to man up and accept the consequences--and quickly, to make that weapon ready again. But at the same time, at least he was trying to make it right--and not by taking the easy way out and replacing it with an incorrect part. Not sure where the idealized view of Marines comes from, but you can have honor and integrity and still not be an alter boy. They're warfighters, not Boy Scouts. You got that right! If I would have lost a part from my Vietnam era issued USMC 1911, I wouldn't have hesitated to replace it with the correct part from wherever. How that would have spoken poorly to my "honor and integrity" is beyond me. The same goes for the young man in question. |