Posted: 4/7/2013 8:01:56 AM EDT
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Yesterday out at the range I put the mag in pulled the slide, pulled the trigger and poof but no bang! So I I locked it to the rear kept it pointing down range trying to figure out wtf just happened. 30 went by and figured it was was good to look and inspect. The bullet is still in the barrel! Swell! Ok so here are the answers before they are asked.
1. It was new ammo it was wolf 2. I always clean and maintain my weapons 3. The gun was lubed and oiled and ready to shoot. Now the questions. What went wrong? It is a Springfield gi 2005. Is it an easy fix? How much? Where do I start looking and any besides get a different 1911 this one has never failed me. So better at the range than in the field. Thanks Elvis |
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Crap ammo. Remove barrel, WRAP well in cloth, wrap cloth in tape, place in vice and tighten just enough to use a wood dowel that just fits into the barrel to tap out the squib in the shortest direction. When you place in vice, do so in a manner that has a much surface area as possible in the vice jaws.
Use some Kroil in the barrel to give a little lubrication to the bullet as it moves. |
| I would not put the barrel in a vise because you'll probably squeeze it or put gouges on it. Set the barrel on a piece of wood and knock the slug out of it down to the chamber, where it will fall out. Set it on the corner of the wood, resting on the chamber face with the tang on the back of the barrel free. This is the first squib load I have heard of from Wolf, and you did exactly the right thing. Any time something odd happens, stop shooting and figure it out. If you had shot again, you would have blown up the gun. |
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How many of you guys shoot Wolf, or any of the other "lower end" ammo's in your AR's or handguns? (EDIT For OP's 1911) I've heard it said that "your gun is no better than what you shoot through it." Not one of my AR's has even seen even one round of steel cased ammo, either.
Thoughts? |
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How many of you guys shoot Wolf, or any of the other "lower end" ammo's in your AR's or handguns? (EDIT For OP's 1911) I've heard it said that "your gun is no better than what you shoot through it." Not one of my AR's has even seen even one round of steel cased ammo, either. Thoughts? I don't shoot it because I can afford not to [stacked it deep and cheap, things may change in the future as my supply drops[] and I think QC for ALL manufacturers is probably poorer then in the past due to the quantity being put out. I'd suspect QC for the cheaper stuff has dropped more then on higher quality ammo. |
| Even Hornady makes high-quality steel-case ammo for training/plinking purposes and its really good enough for any purpose. Many millions of Wolf rifle and pistol ammo have been fired in the USA in the last few years with very few complaints. We hear of squib rounds periodically with all kinds of ammo. What we don't hear about with factory ammo at least to my knowledge is overcharges. The squib is harmless as long as another round is not fired after it. I wonder what the full-auto shooters say about Wolf? You know they are shooting the cheapest stuff they can get away with. I'll be the first to say that brass-case is better for several reasons, such as better gas sealing in the chamber and the possibility of re-use, but for a one-time use, there's nothing wrong with steel-case. |
| Got the bullet out no damage. However I am going to order a spare barrel just in case. The smith here where I am on vacation looked at it this morning and said it should be fine. But as stated about it was just a crap round. Live and learn ,better on the range than if my life depended on it! |
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Even Hornady makes high-quality steel-case ammo for training/plinking purposes and its really good enough for any purpose. Many millions of Wolf rifle and pistol ammo have been fired in the USA in the last few years with very few complaints. We hear of squib rounds periodically with all kinds of ammo. What we don't hear about with factory ammo at least to my knowledge is overcharges. The squib is harmless as long as another round is not fired after it. I wonder what the full-auto shooters say about Wolf? You know they are shooting the cheapest stuff they can get away with. I'll be the first to say that brass-case is better for several reasons, such as better gas sealing in the chamber and the possibility of re-use, but for a one-time use, there's nothing wrong with steel-case. I run, almost exclusively, mil-surp through my machine guns--partly due to cost, and partly because there are very rarely "surprises" in the quality. If you buy Portuguese 7.62 or South African or German M.E.N.--whatever your choice-- you can be reasonably confident that you know what to expect. You know what types are 'hot," you know what types are dirty, you know what types are generally accurate, and you probably know what types to stay away from. The stuff has been tested pretty thoroughly in the real world. I have never fired Wolf (or any other steel ammo) through my machine guns simply because I would not know what to expect. And with what machine guns cost, I'm not about to risk "testing" cheap ammo. (If someone else wants to publically test 25k, 50k rounds of Wolf through their own machine guns, I'd love to hear the results. If it's a valid option, I might consider using it.) Fact is, though, most of us with machine guns don't burn thousands of rounds of ammo very often. Not just due to ammo costs, but due to there being so few places to play any more. There's not a single range within 90 minutes of me that accomodates full-auto fun, so my machine gun outings are usually once or twice a year. So for all the more rounds I fire through the machine guns, I don't really have to scrimp for the last few cents per round. I'd rather pay a bit more and reduce the risk to my toys. Again, I am not saying Wolf sucks. I'm just trying to minimize risks. |
| If I didn't reload, I would shoot the cheapest stuff I could find that had a decent reputation. This includes Wolf. I use Wolf through just about every .223 I own and I figure the cost savings will more than cover any parts replacement that may eventually be needed. |
Good job not sending one in behind it 
Saw a guy at the range blow up his kimber that way. Was watching him shoot while loading magazines, and he had a no fire situation but the slide jumped back half an inch or so (not visible to him I guess.) Before I could even think, he did a tap/rack/kaboom. |
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Got the bullet out no damage. However I am going to order a spare barrel just in case. The smith here where I am on vacation looked at it this morning and said it should be fine. But as stated about it was just a crap round. Live and learn ,better on the range than if my life depended on it! Don't waste money on a new barrel. It is FINE! Just good thing you didn't fall into a Tap Rack BANG! drill though. |