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4/1/2013 1:33:07 PM EDT
So I got this Colt 1911 from my grandfather. Unfortunately, I got it after he came down with dementia so I was unable to ask him. His recent passing prompted me to try to get more info on the gun. The left side of the slide says:
Government Model
Colt Automatic
Caliber .45
United States Property (on the frame below the slide)

On the right side it says:
Colt's MFG. CO. HARTFORD CT. U.S.A.
No. 104415

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I can post pictures if needed.
4/1/2013 1:35:23 PM EDT
[#1]
We will need pics- a little confusing as commercial guns were not marked us property and mil guns did not have government model marked on frame.
4/1/2013 1:42:59 PM EDT
[#2]
Ok, just finished uploading them anyway.

http://imgur.com/a/sXSGe
4/1/2013 1:52:11 PM EDT
[#3]
It is a mutt. No particular collector value unless it is directly associated with a famous person or event. The frame is military prior to 1921 and the slide is commercial. The original main spring housing has been replaced with a later arched housing. The trigger and grip safety are also replacements. Maybe even the hammer as well.

It looks like a nice pistol to be sure, but it is a mutt. If you are looking to sell it as is, I would swag it is being in the $500 ball park.
 
4/1/2013 2:05:54 PM EDT
[#4]
Don't think I plan on selling it. I just wanted to see if it was something that I shouldn't take to the range. Thanks for your help.
4/1/2013 2:12:23 PM EDT
[#5]
Nothing wrong with taking it to the range.



A replacement of the recoil spring at the least is a good step, a full spring replacement wouldn't hurt.  Disassembly, cleaning, and lubing it prior to shooting would be good also.
4/1/2013 2:14:47 PM EDT
[#6]
Your slide is a 1950s Colt slide that was sold to the gov as replacement for U.S. pistols. It is a fully-hardened slide that you can shoot all you want. These slides were used during rebuilds, so your pistol could have been assembled that way during it's government service. Your 1914 M1911 frame looks very good. I can't tell what kind of finish is on the gun but most rebuilds were Parkerized. I think it's probably a rebuild and would go for $900 to $1000. This is assuming all G.I. parts. Tell us what you find on the barrel and if it has a nice bore.

ETA: I believe the frame is a Springfield Armory made between 1914 and 1917 (probably 1915). At that time it was a government arsenal and was given the job of helping Colt make more pistols for WWI. They only made about 35000 pistols so having a frame in good condition is a plus.
4/2/2013 4:49:50 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Your slide is a 1950s Colt slide that was sold to the gov as replacement for U.S. pistols. It is a fully-hardened slide that you can shoot all you want. These slides were used during rebuilds, so your pistol could have been assembled that way during it's government service. Your 1914 M1911 frame looks very good. I can't tell what kind of finish is on the gun but most rebuilds were Parkerized. I think it's probably a rebuild and would go for $900 to $1000. This is assuming all G.I. parts. Tell us what you find on the barrel and if it has a nice bore.

ETA: I believe the frame is a Springfield Armory made between 1914 and 1917 (probably 1915). At that time it was a government arsenal and was given the job of helping Colt make more pistols for WWI. They only made about 35000 pistols so having a frame in good condition is a plus.


Great, thanks for the info!
4/2/2013 8:11:40 AM EDT
[#8]
Post the pics here or give a hot link for more input
4/2/2013 10:11:02 AM EDT
[#9]


4/2/2013 4:07:09 PM EDT
[#10]
Springfield armory frame ( the real Springfield - not today's commercial firm) with later colt commercial slide- nice looking pistol but very limited value besides the sentimental to you
4/2/2013 4:21:45 PM EDT
[#11]
Still very cool. I would love to have gotten a gun like that from my grandfather.
4/4/2013 3:37:08 PM EDT
[#12]
Nice old Colt, as stated not much collector value.

Keep it, shoot it, take care of it and pass it down to your kids/grandkids some day.
4/4/2013 6:09:56 PM EDT
[#13]





Quoted:



Springfield armory frame ( the real Springfield - not today's commercial firm) with later colt commercial slide- nice looking pistol but very limited value besides the sentimental to you



I thought that frame was SA but that "No" in front of the serial number made met think that it was COLT.





 
4/6/2013 12:28:26 PM EDT
[#14]
Springfield had the 'No' too. Look at an early and a late SA on 'Cool Gun Site'. Another clue is how the 'United States Property' is set back a little toward the slide stop.