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3/26/2013 8:35:04 PM EDT
I have been looking into getting all my 1911's checkered, I've had a few recommendations but i'm the diy kind of guy so i just bought a 30 lpi file from midway? Anyone here ever do front strap checkering? any tip's or tricks that would help me through this? any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks (UPDATE) got my files in and just waiting on warm weather, and my brother is machining me a file guide out of delrin, so hopefully i will be able to get going on it within a few weeks
3/26/2013 10:13:54 PM EDT
[#1]
Cheap, easy, takes little time and you don't have to worry about fucking up your gun.

If you wanna go through with it, make sure to practice on some pipe first.

Here's a how to
3/26/2013 10:23:04 PM EDT
[#2]
Or skateboard tape. Available at any skateboard shop.

When I bought mine almost 20 yrs ago they sold me a huge chunk to cover those huge boards for $15 - $16. I still have most of it left.
3/27/2013 4:49:15 AM EDT
[#3]
use a piece of machined steel clamped to the frame to give you a straight guide to get you started...take your time...be careful on the cross cuts, that you end where you want to on the edge and don't roll too far over the edge...be mindful of the clean up at the top under the trigger guard, again where you roll the edge on the side of the frame....use a new file


try an old un checkered main spring housing first.... for my competition pistols, I prefer stippling
3/27/2013 10:00:43 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
I have been looking into getting all my 1911's checkered, I've had a few recommendations but i'm the diy kind of guy so i just bought a 30 lpi file from midway? Anyone here ever do front strap checkering? any tip's or tricks that would help me through this? any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks

It’s not exactly rocket science, but it is tedious as all hell; you’d better be a patient man.  The How-To link that MeatBag provided is pretty good; not exactly how I do it, but certainly good enough.  About the only real major issue I have with how it’s done in that link is the section above the checkering.  After the checkering is done, I take a file and lower that whole section to the depth of the checkering cuts to make it look like the checkering “grew there”.  I did a quick Google to try to find an example and I’m amazed that it seems no one else does that anymore…people getting lazy.  
3/27/2013 10:03:46 AM EDT
[#5]
Thank you ! that step by step is exactly what i need!and thank you guy's for the suggestions and tips! I didn't want to go with grip tape or even that wilson front strap add on, i figured i would save a ton of money if i did the work myself, and have something to pass on to my kids.
3/27/2013 12:10:02 PM EDT
[#6]
I did my own and would again, but my first wasn't as good as I'd like. A gunsmith once told me he quoted twice the going rate so no one would ask him to do it. :)
3/27/2013 12:23:55 PM EDT
[#7]
Holy crap man starting at 30 lpi you are a glutton for punishment. I go cross eyed just thinking of the last one I did. I used the marvel jig from midway to get my lines started. I then finished by hand to depth. I have done three at 20 lpi and one at 30 lpi. I will never do a 30 again. It is very tedious the smaller you go and pointing the diamonds is a pain. I prefer candle soot for marking over dykem. The dykem  works but gets on everything.

Be patient and don't try to knock it out in one night. You will fatigue and it will show in the work. Setup before you cut is key. For as much as a 1911 costs you would think the front strap would be true from top to bottom, but most are not. You may need to draw file to true the strp or your checkering will be uneven.

DIY Checkering

My very first attempt on my gun. Not perfect but its nice and sharp.
3/27/2013 6:23:06 PM EDT
[#8]
I'm a machinist by trade, and use files all the time. I was too worried about screwing up my frame.

I stippled it instead, still a little nerve wracking, but it turned out just like I wanted.
3/27/2013 6:27:40 PM EDT
[#9]
I wouldn't do it.  If you have to do something.  Skateboard tape or stippling.

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3/27/2013 10:47:45 PM EDT
[#10]
I'd like to ask a question if you don't mind.  What is the purpose of checkering?  Does it improve the grip, or is it just for looks?
3/28/2013 1:31:55 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
I'd like to ask a question if you don't mind.  What is the purpose of checkering?  Does it improve the grip, or is it just for looks?


Yes.
3/28/2013 5:40:13 AM EDT
[#12]
Your brave for trying to diy.  I wasn't and went with the Wilson front strap.
3/28/2013 7:31:28 AM EDT
[#13]
i have some steel pipe that i'm going to practice on before i attempt it on my front strap, but i have always been pretty good with this kind of stuff. i should have everything next week and will keep you guy's updated............if your interested? Thanks
3/28/2013 8:24:26 AM EDT
[#14]
The DIY job done by mstrtech looks real good.

Please put up some pix when you have it completed.
I tried to do a mainspring housing years ago, didn't turn out very well at all....a combination of youthful exuberance and not knowing WTF I was doing....since then I have had a frontstrap done by a smith. It was first one for him, results were good not great, but his price was very reasonable.

If I were to do it again I'd probably go for an insert. Saw one at a vendors table at an IPSC Area 8 match, also many years ago, I think it was EGW table, results were excellent. Cheers!
3/28/2013 6:48:47 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
i have some steel pipe that i'm going to practice on before i attempt it on my front strap, but i have always been pretty good with this kind of stuff. i should have everything next week and will keep you guy's updated............if your interested? Thanks


I'd definitely be interested to hear (and see) how your project goes!

I've always wanted to give checkering a try, but have not yet been able to work up the courage!
3/28/2013 9:10:56 PM EDT
[#16]
I wanted that done as well and as someone already stated you better be a patient man. That's not me and the fear of trashing a $1000.00 hand gun convinced me to take it to a local 1911 gunsmith in my area. He charged me around $180.00 and a week latter I had it back. It looked great.
3/29/2013 7:49:52 PM EDT
[#17]
Thought i would post pic's of the victims
3/29/2013 7:52:55 PM EDT
[#18]
BOLD MOVE posting the before pictures, you know......before...don't usually see THAT!

3/29/2013 8:11:56 PM EDT
[#19]
I'm pretty confident that i'll pull off a good job besides, i'll do the hawk on the left first, its the one i'm giving to my son in june on his 21st b-day so if i f-up it's on his lol
3/29/2013 8:21:48 PM EDT
[#20]
It's all good!

Looking forward to seeing the checkering.

This thread is motivating me!
3/30/2013 7:12:24 AM EDT
[#21]
I'd use this its cheaper than a new frame.

link
3/30/2013 7:29:05 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
I'd use this its cheaper than a new frame.

link


I honestly cannot believe Wilson puts his name on that abomination. Of the ones I have seen in person they are equivalent to a couple of layers of aluminum foil with checkering stamped in them. A friend bought one and you could see pin holes all through it from the stamping. It was also loose on the gun. I would go skateboard tape over the Wilson piece.

Looking forward to the Ops pictures when he is done.
3/30/2013 7:32:57 AM EDT
[#23]
This is what I use to begin the vertical cuts.   It's a pair of small 123 blocks in a vise.  They keep me from having to remove the grip bushings and the higher one acts as a guide for the edge of my file.



Finished product

4/11/2013 5:30:27 PM EDT
[#24]
bump for update
4/11/2013 6:02:03 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
bump for update


Did you do it?
4/11/2013 6:56:49 PM EDT
[#26]
can you get a file to do 10 or 15 lpi?
4/11/2013 9:49:59 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:
bump for update


Did you do it?


Not yet! waiting on warmer weather and my file guide that my brother is machining for me. hopefully within the next week or 2
4/11/2013 9:51:37 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
can you get a file to do 10 or 15 lpi?


I don't think they make a 10 or 15lpi file, lowest i know of is 20lpi
4/14/2013 7:22:35 PM EDT
[#29]
+1 on 30 LPI sucking, I've done it once, with a jig, and good lighting, using a large sharpie as dykem, and my eyeballs crossed repeatedly, 20 LPI on the other hand, I've done freehand so to speak, using a straight edge to get me started, and never had many issues on single stack guns, double stack guns always suck.
JKJ
4/14/2013 7:28:25 PM EDT
[#30]
That reminds me: a magnification visor is very helpful, as is a loupe or other high power magnifier to see WTF is going on with the weird spots.
4/16/2013 5:25:47 AM EDT
[#31]
Use the Wilson front strap, love it.  Mine is tight, no holes, and feels great.  Figured for 10 bucks why not.  EDC with it for about 6 years now and you really have to look to even know. If installed tight they are GTG.
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